so is ther a final word on FX1 vs HD10U yet?

Steve Crisdale · December 5th, 2004, 05:04 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Hickling : >>>> the message displayed on the cameras LCD is "cannot display image in this mode". Needless to say there's no image on the HDTV.
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Yep, that's exactly what mine shows on the LCD too - while sending a signal to my HDTV! That message is just a reminder that the camera can't display to the LCD while simultaneously displaying to an external monitor via component.

So I think there's definitely something amiss with your camera, cables, or monitor input settings .... hopefully something simple and/or cheap to resolve. -->>>

Definitely isn't the settings or monitor input, because the FX1 connected to the same HDTV connection (I set them up side by side) outputs via component perfectly..... So it seems I've got a stuffed component connection on camera or the HD10 component cable could be kaput.

I mentioned this problem ages ago to JVC here and they had no idea - they assumed my HDTV was at fault. Oh well, another thing to chase up.

Alex Raskin · December 5th, 2004, 01:35 PM

Tom, there's a method proposed by someone on this forum a year ago, and I used it successfully, to watch HD1(10)'s output *live* in full 1280x720 HD.

Simply connect the firewire output of HD10 into the D-VHS player like JVC 30000, and watch the HD out of the 30000's Component out.

The D-VHS player will introduce a 0.5 sec. delay (like any MPEG2 decoder), but otherwise the image is live.

Hope this helps.

David Kennett · December 5th, 2004, 03:18 PM

Steve,

The HD1-10 has many options available for component out. 1080i, 720p, 480i, 480p are menu selectable. Make sure the output you have selected is compatable with your HDTV. If that doesn't work, I would suspect the cable before the camera. It is true, you won't get a pic on the flip-out screen with external HD monitor.

Tom Roper · December 5th, 2004, 04:07 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Raskin : Tom, there's a method proposed by someone on this forum a year ago, and I used it successfully, to watch HD1(10)'s output *live* in full 1280x720 HD.

Simply connect the firewire output of HD10 into the D-VHS player like JVC 30000, and watch the HD out of the 30000's Component out.

The D-VHS player will introduce a 0.5 sec. delay (like any MPEG2 decoder), but otherwise the image is live.

Hope this helps. -->>>

Right! Thanks! That's actually how the HD1 was demo'd to me when I first saw it at the retailer, firewired to D-VHS player, 1/2 second delay etc.

Heath McKnight · December 5th, 2004, 08:43 PM

Used the FX1 for 8 hours today on a short film: outside in the sun, inside in a dimly lit room, a "backroom" and more. NICE NICE NICE!

More soon, including some testing and side-by-side shots with the HD10.

heath

Jonas Hansen · December 11th, 2004, 08:21 AM

Go for it Heath! Looking forward to it!

December 5th, 2004, 03:18 PM	#18
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Steve, The HD1-10 has many options available for component out. 1080i, 720p, 480i, 480p are menu selectable. Make sure the output you have selected is compatable with your HDTV. If that doesn't work, I would suspect the cable before the camera. It is true, you won't get a pic on the flip-out screen with external HD monitor. __________________ Dave

December 5th, 2004, 08:43 PM	#20
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Used the FX1 for 8 hours today on a short film: outside in the sun, inside in a dimly lit room, a "backroom" and more. NICE NICE NICE! More soon, including some testing and side-by-side shots with the HD10. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

December 5th, 2004, 05:04 AM	#16
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Hickling : >>>> the message displayed on the cameras LCD is "cannot display image in this mode". Needless to say there's no image on the HDTV. >>>> Yep, that's exactly what mine shows on the LCD too - while sending a signal to my HDTV! That message is just a reminder that the camera can't display to the LCD while simultaneously displaying to an external monitor via component. So I think there's definitely something amiss with your camera, cables, or monitor input settings .... hopefully something simple and/or cheap to resolve. -->>> Definitely isn't the settings or monitor input, because the FX1 connected to the same HDTV connection (I set them up side by side) outputs via component perfectly..... So it seems I've got a stuffed component connection on camera or the HD10 component cable could be kaput. I mentioned this problem ages ago to JVC here and they had no idea - they assumed my HDTV was at fault. Oh well, another thing to chase up.

December 5th, 2004, 01:35 PM	#17
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Tom, there's a method proposed by someone on this forum a year ago, and I used it successfully, to watch HD1(10)'s output live in full 1280x720 HD. Simply connect the firewire output of HD10 into the D-VHS player like JVC 30000, and watch the HD out of the 30000's Component out. The D-VHS player will introduce a 0.5 sec. delay (like any MPEG2 decoder), but otherwise the image is live. Hope this helps.

December 5th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#19
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Raskin : Tom, there's a method proposed by someone on this forum a year ago, and I used it successfully, to watch HD1(10)'s output live in full 1280x720 HD. Simply connect the firewire output of HD10 into the D-VHS player like JVC 30000, and watch the HD out of the 30000's Component out. The D-VHS player will introduce a 0.5 sec. delay (like any MPEG2 decoder), but otherwise the image is live. Hope this helps. -->>> Right! Thanks! That's actually how the HD1 was demo'd to me when I first saw it at the retailer, firewired to D-VHS player, 1/2 second delay etc.

December 11th, 2004, 08:21 AM	#21
Jonas Hansen New Boot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 17	Go for it Heath! Looking forward to it!