What the Big Boys shoot with at DVinfo.net

Garrett Low · June 17th, 2009, 01:31 PM

I don't even know if this belongs here but it's a pretty cool video.

Don't know if it's been posted before but this guy has a great job.

Fenway HD Camera - Sony HDC-910 - Canon 75x on Vimeo

Garrett

Adam Gold · June 17th, 2009, 01:37 PM

Yeah, I bookmarked a while ago.. it's really neat stuff.

Just for fun, I priced out some of this gear... it can be yours for a cool couple hundred grand or so...

What was surprising to me is that the cam head sensor was still only 2/3". I guess I had assumed, for no real reason, that it would be bigger.

Rick L. Allen · June 17th, 2009, 04:02 PM

Tom (in the video) is running what's called a "hard" or studio camera. It's owned by the company that provided the production truck for the broadcast. He's making day rate to work the game (probably $400-500 - still a fun job though and it requires skill). And yes it's a 2/3 in chip camera since there aren't chips made any larger than that and 2/3 inch chips have been industry standard for many years.

Liam Hall · June 18th, 2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick L. Allen

And yes it's a 2/3 in chip camera since there aren't chips made any larger than that and 2/3 inch chips have been industry standard for many years.

So, I guess you haven't heard of RED, Sony F35 or Arri D20 or Panavision Genesis...

Robert M Wright · June 19th, 2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam Hall

So, I guess you haven't heard of RED, Sony F35 or Arri D20 or Panavision Genesis...

Those aren't standard cameras in the broadcast industry.

Andy Shipsides · June 19th, 2009, 07:16 AM

It shouldn't be surprising that it's 2/3". If it had a 35mm frame size then not only would his lens need to be twice the size, he would also have such a narrow depth of field on the long end that he could never pull focus.

Dom Stevenson · June 19th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Wow! that's what i call a zoom!

Philip Williams · June 24th, 2009, 01:25 PM

Sony HDC-910 Camera: $94,000
Canon 75x HD lens: $90,000
Cardboard and Tape Sunshade: Priceless

Chris Hurd · June 24th, 2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam Hall

So, I guess you haven't heard of RED, Sony F35 or Arri D20 or Panavision Genesis...

Those are Digital Cinema camera systems. Not what we're talking about here.

Jack Zhang · June 24th, 2009, 03:46 PM

You see these everywhere nowadays. SNL, The Tonight Show, Sporting events, and maybe the Olympics.

They're much more scarce in Canada compared to the US. And some even skip Sony and go for Ikegami.

Sander Vreuls · June 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Around here (The Netherlands) Thomson Grass Valley camera's for use in multicam situations are quite popular as well, both SD and HD.

Very nice camera, and good explanation.

Garry Moore · June 28th, 2009, 06:20 PM

I know I seen some Sony F35's at the China Olympics, but probably not for television broadcast.

Charles Papert · June 28th, 2009, 10:23 PM

hmm, seeing this makes me think it would be fun to do a similar "expose" of my shooting setup on a feature or TV show...

Chris Soucy · June 29th, 2009, 05:15 AM

The one thing he raved about is the one thing not mentioned by anyone........

The Vinten head!

Not the camera, nor the lens, spectacular tho' they are, but the head.

The other "did I miss that bit" - the OIS "on tripod" system.

The "Way to Go" if only one of the manufacturers can get their heads (er, yeah) 'round it.

Vinten are working on it, but currently only for this sort of high end end system, this their latest piece of genius:

Vinten | Vector 950 Active Pan and Tilt Head | www.vinten.com

No mistake, the first manufacturer to figure out how to connect this sort of system to any other manufacturers cameras/ lenses, at the consumer level, is going to clean up big time!

Back to the video - sounds like the job from hell to me, quite frankly.

Hate sport, hate humping big gear up stairs and hate being out in the elements - guess I'd be a shoe in then!

Interesting video nontheless, just goes to show what you can do with not a lot of time or resources.

CS

Shaun Roemich · June 29th, 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Papert

hmm, seeing this makes me think it would be fun to do a similar "expose" of my shooting setup on a feature or TV show...

I'd pay my monthly internet bill to see that.

June 17th, 2009, 01:31 PM	#1
Garrett Low Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 1,774	What the Big Boys shoot with I don't even know if this belongs here but it's a pretty cool video. Don't know if it's been posted before but this guy has a great job. Fenway HD Camera - Sony HDC-910 - Canon 75x on Vimeo Garrett

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Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 536	Tom (in the video) is running what's called a "hard" or studio camera. It's owned by the company that provided the production truck for the broadcast. He's making day rate to work the game (probably $400-500 - still a fun job though and it requires skill). And yes it's a 2/3 in chip camera since there aren't chips made any larger than that and 2/3 inch chips have been industry standard for many years. __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

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Andy Shipsides Sponsor: Abel CineTech Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 361	It shouldn't be surprising that it's 2/3". If it had a 35mm frame size then not only would his lens need to be twice the size, he would also have such a narrow depth of field on the long end that he could never pull focus. __________________ Andy Shipsides -Camera Technology Specialist AbelCineTech, New York - Visit our Blog - http://blog.abelcine.com

June 24th, 2009, 01:25 PM	#8
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	Sony HDC-910 Camera: $94,000 Canon 75x HD lens: $90,000 Cardboard and Tape Sunshade: Priceless __________________ www.philipwilliams.com

June 28th, 2009, 06:20 PM	#12
Garry Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Aurora, IN Posts: 45	F35 I know I seen some Sony F35's at the China Olympics, but probably not for television broadcast.

June 17th, 2009, 01:37 PM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Yeah, I bookmarked a while ago.. it's really neat stuff. Just for fun, I priced out some of this gear... it can be yours for a cool couple hundred grand or so... What was surprising to me is that the cam head sensor was still only 2/3". I guess I had assumed, for no real reason, that it would be bigger.

June 19th, 2009, 09:28 AM	#7
Dom Stevenson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 430	Wow! that's what i call a zoom!

June 24th, 2009, 03:46 PM	#10
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	You see these everywhere nowadays. SNL, The Tonight Show, Sporting events, and maybe the Olympics. They're much more scarce in Canada compared to the US. And some even skip Sony and go for Ikegami.

June 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM	#11
Sander Vreuls Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hilversum, The Netherlands Posts: 184	Around here (The Netherlands) Thomson Grass Valley camera's for use in multicam situations are quite popular as well, both SD and HD. Very nice camera, and good explanation.

June 28th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#13
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	hmm, seeing this makes me think it would be fun to do a similar "expose" of my shooting setup on a feature or TV show... __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

June 29th, 2009, 05:15 AM	#14
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,691 Images: 18	Interesting............. The one thing he raved about is the one thing not mentioned by anyone........ The Vinten head! Not the camera, nor the lens, spectacular tho' they are, but the head. The other "did I miss that bit" - the OIS "on tripod" system. The "Way to Go" if only one of the manufacturers can get their heads (er, yeah) 'round it. Vinten are working on it, but currently only for this sort of high end end system, this their latest piece of genius: Vinten \| Vector 950 Active Pan and Tilt Head \| www.vinten.com No mistake, the first manufacturer to figure out how to connect this sort of system to any other manufacturers cameras/ lenses, at the consumer level, is going to clean up big time! Back to the video - sounds like the job from hell to me, quite frankly. Hate sport, hate humping big gear up stairs and hate being out in the elements - guess I'd be a shoe in then! Interesting video nontheless, just goes to show what you can do with not a lot of time or resources. CS