trading in XHA1 for HPX171 good idea? at DVinfo.net

Dom Stevenson · February 16th, 2009, 03:00 PM

I'm considering selling my Canon (xha1) and buying the latest camera from Panasonic (hpx171).

There are a number of reasons.

I like the look of the Panasonic DVCpro HD camcorders, and am not mad about HDV, though to be fair, it's served me well over the last couple of years.

The colours on the Panasonic have always appealed to me, and it's clear that the latest camera has a significantly better low-light performance than its predecessor the HVX200.

It's as good a time as any to go solid state. I usually have a laptop on hand and P2 card prices/sizes have improved.

The HPX is smaller, and as a travel doco camera, makes you look more of a tourist which is desirable for me.

So here's a few things i like about the Panasonic, perhaps someone wants to challenge this. I'm in no hurry to sell my canon which i think is a fantastic camcorder, but i do feel like a change. I still resent the price of p2 cards and would prefer if the panasonic shot to SxS which seem to me to be a better deal, but i also feel the DVCPro HD codec is superior to HDV for what i want.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone things i should hang on to the canon and why?

And finally:

As a matter of interest, why is the HVX still more expensive than the newer HPX?

Steve Wolla · February 16th, 2009, 08:42 PM

What's "travel doco"?
I don't think the HPX170 will necessarily get you less attention than the A1. Look loke a tourist? With an HPX??? Don't think so. It will be lighter in weight, though.

It sounds like you want to switch due to the Panasonic's color and low light ability....and that makes some sense. But really, unless you really need the ability to use its over/under cranking, you may be better served by looking at the HMC150. Its media (SDHC cards) are a whole lot less money, and its performance is essentially the same.
And remember, the Panasonic may look a little softer than the A1.

Dom Stevenson · February 17th, 2009, 10:42 AM

Hi Steve,

By "a travel doco" i meant an on the move documentary in far off lands where you don't have official filming permission and thus want to look like a tourist rather than a filmaker. I was in the Middle East last year with my XHA1 and felt very nervous and often kicked myself for not bringing along a less conspicuous camera. I take your point about the hpx171 still looking a bit "professional". Something like a Canon HV20 would have been a better choice.

"HMC150. Its media (SDHC cards) are a whole lot less money, and its performance is essentially the same. "

Really? i will look into that camera.

I'm currently doing an editing job on a project shot on the HPX500 and am quite taken with the DVCPro HD format, but it would be interesting to see any comparison's between the 171 and the 150. I must confess the price of P2 cards is a tad off-putting.

Alex Humphrey · February 17th, 2009, 06:57 PM

There is a lot to like about DVCPRO-HD to be sure. If you like XDCAM-EX format JVC is releasing a new 3 chip stealth camera that records to cheap SD cards. It's small and the top handle comes off. You might still get noticed, but not as badly.

GY-HM100U is the model

JVC Professional Features page

We will start seeing sample footage in a week or so on the JVC section of this forum.

February 16th, 2009, 03:00 PM	#1
Dom Stevenson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 430	trading in XHA1 for HPX171 good idea? I'm considering selling my Canon (xha1) and buying the latest camera from Panasonic (hpx171). There are a number of reasons. I like the look of the Panasonic DVCpro HD camcorders, and am not mad about HDV, though to be fair, it's served me well over the last couple of years. The colours on the Panasonic have always appealed to me, and it's clear that the latest camera has a significantly better low-light performance than its predecessor the HVX200. It's as good a time as any to go solid state. I usually have a laptop on hand and P2 card prices/sizes have improved. The HPX is smaller, and as a travel doco camera, makes you look more of a tourist which is desirable for me. So here's a few things i like about the Panasonic, perhaps someone wants to challenge this. I'm in no hurry to sell my canon which i think is a fantastic camcorder, but i do feel like a change. I still resent the price of p2 cards and would prefer if the panasonic shot to SxS which seem to me to be a better deal, but i also feel the DVCPro HD codec is superior to HDV for what i want. I'd be interested to hear if anyone things i should hang on to the canon and why? And finally: As a matter of interest, why is the HVX still more expensive than the newer HPX?

February 16th, 2009, 08:42 PM	#2
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	What's "travel doco"? I don't think the HPX170 will necessarily get you less attention than the A1. Look loke a tourist? With an HPX??? Don't think so. It will be lighter in weight, though. It sounds like you want to switch due to the Panasonic's color and low light ability....and that makes some sense. But really, unless you really need the ability to use its over/under cranking, you may be better served by looking at the HMC150. Its media (SDHC cards) are a whole lot less money, and its performance is essentially the same. And remember, the Panasonic may look a little softer than the A1.

February 17th, 2009, 10:42 AM	#3
Dom Stevenson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 430	Hi Steve, By "a travel doco" i meant an on the move documentary in far off lands where you don't have official filming permission and thus want to look like a tourist rather than a filmaker. I was in the Middle East last year with my XHA1 and felt very nervous and often kicked myself for not bringing along a less conspicuous camera. I take your point about the hpx171 still looking a bit "professional". Something like a Canon HV20 would have been a better choice. "HMC150. Its media (SDHC cards) are a whole lot less money, and its performance is essentially the same. " Really? i will look into that camera. I'm currently doing an editing job on a project shot on the HPX500 and am quite taken with the DVCPro HD format, but it would be interesting to see any comparison's between the 171 and the 150. I must confess the price of P2 cards is a tad off-putting.

February 17th, 2009, 06:57 PM	#4
Alex Humphrey Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: california North and South Posts: 642	There is a lot to like about DVCPRO-HD to be sure. If you like XDCAM-EX format JVC is releasing a new 3 chip stealth camera that records to cheap SD cards. It's small and the top handle comes off. You might still get noticed, but not as badly. GY-HM100U is the model JVC Professional Features page We will start seeing sample footage in a week or so on the JVC section of this forum.