Which "one step up from" HV30 Canon cam has 1080p? at DVinfo.net

Jackie Morton · February 5th, 2009, 11:11 PM

I could have sworn the XH A1S and the XL H1A were 1080p, but Canon's site says 1080i. Hmm.. so what's Canon's prosumer camera for 1080p then? What's a step up from HV30?

Tripp Woelfel · February 6th, 2009, 06:09 AM

The XH A1 will shoot progressive at 30 and 24fps on the NTSC models. I think it will shoot progressive at 25 fps on the PAL units, but I don't know about 24fps.

One can argue that it's not true progressive because it uses an interlaced sensor but the results are effectively the same.

Marcel D. Van Someren · February 6th, 2009, 07:05 AM

In this particular case, the reference to 1080p vs 1080i has more to do with the resolution /pixel shape. 1080p is 1920X1080/square pixels where as 1080i is 1440X1080/rectangular pixels. Although the A1's sensors produce 1920X1080, HDV specs convert and compress this to 1440X1080. This is standard for HDV.

Cameras that record in AVCHD maintain the 1920X1080 resoution. But then AVCHD has it's own set of challenges.

That said, I routinely drop my A1's footage onto a 1920X1080, 24f timeline. That way I have fulll 1080p for blu-ray and can render to a lower resolution like 720p for other things.

Ray Bell · February 6th, 2009, 09:12 AM

The new Canon S10 should be a step above the HV30... its due out next month

Chris Hurd · February 6th, 2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackie Morton

I could have sworn the XH A1S and the XL H1A were 1080p, but Canon's site says 1080i.

All current Canon HD camcorders, including the XH series, are 1080i60, 1080p30 and 1080p24
(or 1080i50 and 1080p25 in Europe and Australia).

And yes the next step up from the HV series is the HF S series (HF S10 and HF S100).

February 5th, 2009, 11:11 PM	#1
Jackie Morton Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Buffalo, USA Posts: 63	Which "one step up from" HV30 Canon cam has 1080p? I could have sworn the XH A1S and the XL H1A were 1080p, but Canon's site says 1080i. Hmm.. so what's Canon's prosumer camera for 1080p then? What's a step up from HV30?

February 6th, 2009, 07:05 AM	#3
Marcel D. Van Someren Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 325	In this particular case, the reference to 1080p vs 1080i has more to do with the resolution /pixel shape. 1080p is 1920X1080/square pixels where as 1080i is 1440X1080/rectangular pixels. Although the A1's sensors produce 1920X1080, HDV specs convert and compress this to 1440X1080. This is standard for HDV. Cameras that record in AVCHD maintain the 1920X1080 resoution. But then AVCHD has it's own set of challenges. That said, I routinely drop my A1's footage onto a 1920X1080, 24f timeline. That way I have fulll 1080p for blu-ray and can render to a lower resolution like 720p for other things. Last edited by Marcel D. Van Someren; February 6th, 2009 at 01:04 PM. Reason: typo

February 6th, 2009, 06:09 AM	#2
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	The XH A1 will shoot progressive at 30 and 24fps on the NTSC models. I think it will shoot progressive at 25 fps on the PAL units, but I don't know about 24fps. One can argue that it's not true progressive because it uses an interlaced sensor but the results are effectively the same.

February 6th, 2009, 09:12 AM	#4
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	The new Canon S10 should be a step above the HV30... its due out next month