Best Consumer Camcorder for Compositor at DVinfo.net

Craig Parkes · August 17th, 2008, 04:27 PM

Hi guys - I work with a compositor whose looking at buying a personal camcorder, to grab footage to use in compositions as she's going through life.

(I.e textures and motion elements of things she sees).

Obviously, in this case we are looking for something that has a good colour depth and fidelity.

I'm not too concerned about recording format (HDV/AVCHD etc.) in terms of how workable it is in post, because by the nature of how this work is going to be done we are safe assuming that everything is going to be transcoded in a Mac to Pro-res, or uncompressed or some other intermediate codec first before it is used in the compositions.

What I am concerned about is artifacting caused by the recording codec in camera, perceivable colour depth, luma sharpness etc. I'd prefer first hand examples of both advantages and potential issues than just quoting tech specs.

Also, in this case ease of use, ergonomics, manual AND auto functionality are very important. Ideally something set up for fast capture (maybe a Hard Disk Drive type camera with a buffer that has a pre-record/time travel setting that is always recording a few seconds could be useful.)

Relatively good low light would be a major advantage (historically this would have led me to think about Sony - not so sure these days).

Pricing wise we are looking the $1,000-$2,000 range.

(And yes - I know about Scarlet, yes, it will be perfect for this stuff - I have worked with the Red ONE - , but it's too far off and getting it fully kitted out with CF cards etc will push it too far from this persons available budget to be realistic.)

Any advice?

Jack Zhang · August 17th, 2008, 06:37 PM

If you plan to matchmove, forget about any of the CMOS cameras. But if you want true color, the HV30 is pretty darn good at color reproduction. It's just to get the best results, you need to bypass the HDV compression and either capture uncompressed from HDMI or compress to Cineform in real-time or Prores422 in real-time.

Seun Osewa · August 18th, 2008, 05:20 AM

Definitely the HV30/HF11, but she needs to practice her camerawork to reduce shakiness.

August 17th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#1
Craig Parkes Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 444	Best Consumer Camcorder for Compositor Hi guys - I work with a compositor whose looking at buying a personal camcorder, to grab footage to use in compositions as she's going through life. (I.e textures and motion elements of things she sees). Obviously, in this case we are looking for something that has a good colour depth and fidelity. I'm not too concerned about recording format (HDV/AVCHD etc.) in terms of how workable it is in post, because by the nature of how this work is going to be done we are safe assuming that everything is going to be transcoded in a Mac to Pro-res, or uncompressed or some other intermediate codec first before it is used in the compositions. What I am concerned about is artifacting caused by the recording codec in camera, perceivable colour depth, luma sharpness etc. I'd prefer first hand examples of both advantages and potential issues than just quoting tech specs. Also, in this case ease of use, ergonomics, manual AND auto functionality are very important. Ideally something set up for fast capture (maybe a Hard Disk Drive type camera with a buffer that has a pre-record/time travel setting that is always recording a few seconds could be useful.) Relatively good low light would be a major advantage (historically this would have led me to think about Sony - not so sure these days). Pricing wise we are looking the $1,000-$2,000 range. (And yes - I know about Scarlet, yes, it will be perfect for this stuff - I have worked with the Red ONE - , but it's too far off and getting it fully kitted out with CF cards etc will push it too far from this persons available budget to be realistic.) Any advice?

August 17th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#2
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	If you plan to matchmove, forget about any of the CMOS cameras. But if you want true color, the HV30 is pretty darn good at color reproduction. It's just to get the best results, you need to bypass the HDV compression and either capture uncompressed from HDMI or compress to Cineform in real-time or Prores422 in real-time.

August 18th, 2008, 05:20 AM	#3
Seun Osewa Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Africa Posts: 255	Definitely the HV30/HF11, but she needs to practice her camerawork to reduce shakiness.