List of consumer 1920x1080 HD camcorders at DVinfo.net

Boyan Dob · January 3rd, 2008, 03:04 AM

Which are the current consumer 1920x1080 HD camcorders on the market? (In EU and elsewhere.)

Jon Fairhurst · January 3rd, 2008, 12:38 PM

The Consumer Electronics Show (CES) will be held in Las Vegas next week. The list might grow...

Boyan Dob · January 7th, 2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

The Consumer Electronics Show (CES) will be held in Las Vegas next week. The list might grow...

Thanks for that info. So, which are the models thus far? (Except the ones mentioned on this furum.)

Chris Hurd · January 7th, 2008, 07:09 AM

CES is just starting today, so it will be the end of the week before all of the news is out.

See our Industry News forum for coverage.

Boyan Dob · March 3rd, 2008, 11:38 AM

Anyone willing to provide here a list of current & upcoming 1080p consumer camcorder?

Chris Hurd · March 3rd, 2008, 12:22 PM

1080i is much more common and available now. I'm up to date on Canon's line but have had little time to keep up with Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Sanyo and others. If anybody else is willing to help build this list, I can contribute what I know about the Canon consumer HD lineup.

Dave Blackhurst · March 3rd, 2008, 01:40 PM

current Sony offerings:

SR10/SR11/SR12 - HDD & MS Duo/AVCHD spec'd at 1920

UX10/UX20 DVD/AVCHD, spec'd at 1920

Just for the sake of confusing things a bit, let's presume for a moment that the difference between 1440 (HDV spec, and most previous gen cameras, some of which announced 1920 sensors, but recorded to 1440 per HDV spec) and 1920 is at least to some degree marketing ("it goes to 11", that makes it louder!!), and include the remaining HD cameras...

HC9 (replaces the HC7) - tape/HDV, 1440 not 1920, due to spec limitation of HDV format (?)

CX7 - MS Duo/AVCHD, again 1440 not 1920. I'm speculating that a "CX9" may be announced as a replacement, but nothing other than a few vague rumours as of yet.

FX7 - tape/HDV, again 1440, discontinued recently, the possibility of an "FX9" is certainly out there, but again, nothing announced or even rumoured!

Robert M Wright · March 3rd, 2008, 06:21 PM

There's a difference between maximum recordable resolution, for a given recording format, and resolution of the image that can be acquired by the lens/sensors of a given camera. I'd be pretty surprised if any consumer camcorder (or any sub $10k professional camcorder, aside possibly from the PMW-EX1) can actually acquire an image with 1920 vertical lines of resolution. I doubt most can even achieve 1440.

Chris Hurd · March 3rd, 2008, 06:34 PM

I think this list would be most helpful if it included the current models of all the various consumer HD formats... AVCHD, HDV, etc. and do we really need to draw a distinction between 1440 and 1920 on a consumer camcorder anyway. Feature set is more important to me (mic input, manual audio level control, etc.)

As promised, the Canon line-up for the first half of 2008 is five camcorders:

HV30 (HDV)
HR10 (AVCHD to disc)
HG10 (AVCHD to drive)
HF100 (AVCHD to card) / HF10 (AVCHD to int. flash plus card)

Robert M Wright · March 3rd, 2008, 09:17 PM

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/1...amcorders.html

This is a listing of consumer HD camcorders available at B&H. I believe that all of them record 1080 line video (aside from the Samsung SC-MX10 - not sure what it records, but with a single 680k pixel CCD, it is certainly not an HD camera). Seems like a pretty comprehensive list of what is currently available.

Paulo Teixeira · March 4th, 2008, 10:48 PM

You also have the Hitachi DZ-BD9H, DZ-HD90, Toshiba GSC-A100F, Samsung SC-HMX20C, and since the Casio EXILIM Pro EX-F1 camera has a 1920x1080 60i video mode, that should be included on the list as well.

Boyan Dob · October 20th, 2008, 02:14 AM

Anyone wants to list newer HD camcorders which stand out in image quality? (Hopefully with true 1080i resolution.)

I am especially interested in producing good quality slow motion clips for sports (volleyball, golf, ...) -- on MiniDV recordings I've used VirtualDub and split interlaced frames into their own (upscaling was thus necessary), and I've got smooth 50fps out of original 25fps, so, interleced mode, more fps and high res, is desired.

Robert M Wright · October 21st, 2008, 12:37 PM

Some of the newer Sony HD cameras might work real well for that.

January 3rd, 2008, 03:04 AM	#1
Boyan Dob Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 45	List of consumer 1920x1080 HD camcorders Which are the current consumer 1920x1080 HD camcorders on the market? (In EU and elsewhere.)

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March 3rd, 2008, 12:22 PM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	1080i is much more common and available now. I'm up to date on Canon's line but have had little time to keep up with Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Sanyo and others. If anybody else is willing to help build this list, I can contribute what I know about the Canon consumer HD lineup. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 3rd, 2008, 06:34 PM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I think this list would be most helpful if it included the current models of all the various consumer HD formats... AVCHD, HDV, etc. and do we really need to draw a distinction between 1440 and 1920 on a consumer camcorder anyway. Feature set is more important to me (mic input, manual audio level control, etc.) As promised, the Canon line-up for the first half of 2008 is five camcorders: HV30 (HDV) HR10 (AVCHD to disc) HG10 (AVCHD to drive) HF100 (AVCHD to card) / HF10 (AVCHD to int. flash plus card) __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 3rd, 2008, 11:38 AM	#5
Boyan Dob Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 45	Anyone willing to provide here a list of current & upcoming 1080p consumer camcorder?

March 3rd, 2008, 01:40 PM	#7
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	current Sony offerings: SR10/SR11/SR12 - HDD & MS Duo/AVCHD spec'd at 1920 UX10/UX20 DVD/AVCHD, spec'd at 1920 Just for the sake of confusing things a bit, let's presume for a moment that the difference between 1440 (HDV spec, and most previous gen cameras, some of which announced 1920 sensors, but recorded to 1440 per HDV spec) and 1920 is at least to some degree marketing ("it goes to 11", that makes it louder!!), and include the remaining HD cameras... HC9 (replaces the HC7) - tape/HDV, 1440 not 1920, due to spec limitation of HDV format (?) CX7 - MS Duo/AVCHD, again 1440 not 1920. I'm speculating that a "CX9" may be announced as a replacement, but nothing other than a few vague rumours as of yet. FX7 - tape/HDV, again 1440, discontinued recently, the possibility of an "FX9" is certainly out there, but again, nothing announced or even rumoured!

March 3rd, 2008, 06:21 PM	#8
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	There's a difference between maximum recordable resolution, for a given recording format, and resolution of the image that can be acquired by the lens/sensors of a given camera. I'd be pretty surprised if any consumer camcorder (or any sub $10k professional camcorder, aside possibly from the PMW-EX1) can actually acquire an image with 1920 vertical lines of resolution. I doubt most can even achieve 1440.

March 3rd, 2008, 09:17 PM	#10
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/1...amcorders.html This is a listing of consumer HD camcorders available at B&H. I believe that all of them record 1080 line video (aside from the Samsung SC-MX10 - not sure what it records, but with a single 680k pixel CCD, it is certainly not an HD camera). Seems like a pretty comprehensive list of what is currently available.

March 4th, 2008, 10:48 PM	#11
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	You also have the Hitachi DZ-BD9H, DZ-HD90, Toshiba GSC-A100F, Samsung SC-HMX20C, and since the Casio EXILIM Pro EX-F1 camera has a 1920x1080 60i video mode, that should be included on the list as well. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

October 20th, 2008, 02:14 AM	#12
Boyan Dob Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 45	Anyone wants to list newer HD camcorders which stand out in image quality? (Hopefully with true 1080i resolution.) I am especially interested in producing good quality slow motion clips for sports (volleyball, golf, ...) -- on MiniDV recordings I've used VirtualDub and split interlaced frames into their own (upscaling was thus necessary), and I've got smooth 50fps out of original 25fps, so, interleced mode, more fps and high res, is desired.

October 21st, 2008, 12:37 PM	#13
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Some of the newer Sony HD cameras might work real well for that.