New Sony Deck to Support Canon 24F? at DVinfo.net

Peter Wiley · December 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM

Has anyone else heard about this:

http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/#m35

The claim is: "On November 14, 2007, Sony announced new tri-mode DV/DVCAM/HDV VCRs that support 4-channel audio and will play back not only Sony/Canon 1080i HDV but also JVC 720p HDV. The HVR-M35 series VCRs also support playback of Canon's 24F and 25F formats. These VCRs have an HD-SDI/SDI output jack and they can handle both Mini (small) and Standard (large) size tape cassettes."

Ron Evans · December 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM

This is the Sony release

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/32117.html
http://www.sony.co.uk/res/attachment...3315642481.pdf
Ron Evans

Chris Hurd · December 21st, 2007, 11:28 AM

I was wondering about this when I first heard of the M35 announcement. Sure would like to get confirmation from somebody who has actually played back a Canon HDV cassette recorded in Frame mode from this Sony deck...

Ethan Cooper · December 21st, 2007, 11:42 AM

Looks a lot like the trusty old DSR-11 except with a lot more pushy, turny, fashy things.
BTW - was the DSR-11 the greatest inexpensive deck ever made? That thing was a freakin tank. It'd run all day, every day, for a long, long time. Lets hope these new decks are built as well as that thing was.

We tried the little JVC dv deck that was slightly less expensive, but that thing was poop in comparison. Didn't even last a whole year. If we hadn't retired our old DSR-11 it'd still be running. God I love inexpensive gear that just works. Don't get me started singing the praises of my old VX... same basic concept.

Peter Wiley · December 22nd, 2007, 07:23 AM

I'm with Chris. I'd like to se or hear of a practical demonstration. I guess we'll have to wait until Feb. to find out.

Still using my DSR-11 and love it, but I'll have to upgrade soon.

Dave Speace · December 27th, 2007, 03:59 PM

I love my Canon XHA1... I recently shot a project 24F and everything looks great... I decided to buy a deck and I got Sony's HVR-M15 and quickly found out that it doesn't playback 24F or 30F! Very irritating. So I figured... I can shoot 1080 60i on my next project..... so I popped the tape out of the camera and put it in the M15 and the tape doesn't play.... it skips, plays, the frame freezes for a couple of seconds then plays, skips, freezes, then plays... etc. I then decided to test this with a brand new tape and it did the same thing... then I decided to just dub the tape from the A1 to the deck... which I did. The dubbed tape in the deck played back fine, but when I put it in the A1 to see if it would play back I got zilch....... a blue screen, no picture!!! So I got 2 brand new pieces of equipment that are in compatible! I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY A COMPANY LIKE SONY WOULD MAKE EQUIPMENT... THAT DOESN'T PLAYBACK 24F (OR P) WHEN EVERY SINGLE FILMMAKER AND ASPIRING FILMMAKER IS SHOOTING 24 FRAMES!? Oh yea... I know Sony has a new deck... the 35U that costs 3x as much as the 15U... over $5 grand! I think that I will be sending my deck back for a refund!

Jeremy Doyle · January 25th, 2008, 01:15 PM

Why doesn't Canon just make a deck?

Richard Alvarez · January 25th, 2008, 07:06 PM

Canon does make decks, they just like to stick lenses on them! ;)

Yeah, I LOVE my DSR11. Only cheap thing about it is the tiny little door hinge pins. Other than that, a solid piece of deck.

December 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM	#1
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	New Sony Deck to Support Canon 24F? Has anyone else heard about this: http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/#m35 The claim is: "On November 14, 2007, Sony announced new tri-mode DV/DVCAM/HDV VCRs that support 4-channel audio and will play back not only Sony/Canon 1080i HDV but also JVC 720p HDV. The HVR-M35 series VCRs also support playback of Canon's 24F and 25F formats. These VCRs have an HD-SDI/SDI output jack and they can handle both Mini (small) and Standard (large) size tape cassettes."

December 21st, 2007, 11:28 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I was wondering about this when I first heard of the M35 announcement. Sure would like to get confirmation from somebody who has actually played back a Canon HDV cassette recorded in Frame mode from this Sony deck... __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 21st, 2007, 11:42 AM	#4
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	Looks a lot like the trusty old DSR-11 except with a lot more pushy, turny, fashy things. BTW - was the DSR-11 the greatest inexpensive deck ever made? That thing was a freakin tank. It'd run all day, every day, for a long, long time. Lets hope these new decks are built as well as that thing was. We tried the little JVC dv deck that was slightly less expensive, but that thing was poop in comparison. Didn't even last a whole year. If we hadn't retired our old DSR-11 it'd still be running. God I love inexpensive gear that just works. Don't get me started singing the praises of my old VX... same basic concept. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper

December 27th, 2007, 03:59 PM	#6
Dave Speace New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Morgantown, PA Posts: 9	Can we deck Sony today?!!! I love my Canon XHA1... I recently shot a project 24F and everything looks great... I decided to buy a deck and I got Sony's HVR-M15 and quickly found out that it doesn't playback 24F or 30F! Very irritating. So I figured... I can shoot 1080 60i on my next project..... so I popped the tape out of the camera and put it in the M15 and the tape doesn't play.... it skips, plays, the frame freezes for a couple of seconds then plays, skips, freezes, then plays... etc. I then decided to test this with a brand new tape and it did the same thing... then I decided to just dub the tape from the A1 to the deck... which I did. The dubbed tape in the deck played back fine, but when I put it in the A1 to see if it would play back I got zilch....... a blue screen, no picture!!! So I got 2 brand new pieces of equipment that are in compatible! I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY A COMPANY LIKE SONY WOULD MAKE EQUIPMENT... THAT DOESN'T PLAYBACK 24F (OR P) WHEN EVERY SINGLE FILMMAKER AND ASPIRING FILMMAKER IS SHOOTING 24 FRAMES!? Oh yea... I know Sony has a new deck... the 35U that costs 3x as much as the 15U... over $5 grand! I think that I will be sending my deck back for a refund! __________________ Dave Speace Producer/Director/DP

December 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM	#2
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	This is the Sony release http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/32117.html http://www.sony.co.uk/res/attachment...3315642481.pdf Ron Evans

December 22nd, 2007, 07:23 AM	#5
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	I'm with Chris. I'd like to se or hear of a practical demonstration. I guess we'll have to wait until Feb. to find out. Still using my DSR-11 and love it, but I'll have to upgrade soon.

January 25th, 2008, 01:15 PM	#7
Jeremy Doyle Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brainerd, MN Posts: 287	Why doesn't Canon just make a deck?

January 25th, 2008, 07:06 PM	#8
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Canon does make decks, they just like to stick lenses on them! ;) Yeah, I LOVE my DSR11. Only cheap thing about it is the tiny little door hinge pins. Other than that, a solid piece of deck.