DR-HD100 various topics

Javier Tabares · December 6th, 2007, 06:27 PM

Final cut 6.0.2 now have hdv50p codec implemented, so focus now can work for DR-HD100 work in quicktime 50p, when? i don´t know.

By now DR-HD100 only can work in quicktime in 24, 25, and 30p and 50p in m2t.

Adam Letch · December 6th, 2007, 09:59 PM

Nonlinear Editing System Compatibility
No matter which nonlinear editing (NLE) system you have, the Focus DR-HD100 has you covered. When in DV mode, files are recorded to disk as RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, AVI Type 2 24p, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, QuickTime 24p, Avid OMF, Pinnacle AVI or MXF. In HD mode, 720p clips are recorded as M2T (720p24, 25, 30, 50 or 60) files or QuickTime HDV (720p24, 25 or 30). When working with DV clips, simply connect the JVC DR-HD100 to your Mac or PC editing system in the same way you would connect a FireWire hard disk drive and you are instantly ready to edit. No capturing, no file transfer, no file conversion. Just shoot and edit. When working in HD mode, you’re able to work with a growing list of compatible NLE systems.

Focus DR-HD100 QuickTime HDV Support Upgrade Available Now
With the DR-HD100 v2.2.1 firmware upgrade, JVC GY-HD100, HD200 and HD250 series camcorder owners can record 720p/30,25 and 24 clips in the native QuickTime HDV file format. QuickTime HDV clips can be imported directly into Apple Final Cut Pro without the need for capture or conversion first.

and the pdf
http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...20DR-HD100.pdf

Adam Letch · December 6th, 2007, 10:45 PM

Nonlinear Editing System Compatibility
No matter which nonlinear editing (NLE) system you have, the Focus DR-HD100 has you covered. When in DV mode, files are recorded to disk as RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, AVI Type 2 24p, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, QuickTime 24p, Avid OMF, Pinnacle AVI or MXF. In HD mode, 720p clips are recorded as M2T (720p24, 25, 30, 50 or 60) files or QuickTime HDV (720p24, 25 or 30). When working with DV clips, simply connect the JVC DR-HD100 to your Mac or PC editing system in the same way you would connect a FireWire hard disk drive and you are instantly ready to edit. No capturing, no file transfer, no file conversion. Just shoot and edit. When working in HD mode, you’re able to work with a growing list of compatible NLE systems.

Focus DR-HD100 QuickTime HDV Support Upgrade Available Now
With the DR-HD100 v2.2.1 firmware upgrade, JVC GY-HD100, HD200 and HD250 series camcorder owners can record 720p/30,25 and 24 clips in the native QuickTime HDV file format. QuickTime HDV clips can be imported directly into Apple Final Cut Pro without the need for capture or conversion first.

and the pdf
http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...20DR-HD100.pdf

edit - sorry Chris double post, really tired today :-P

Marc Colemont · December 9th, 2007, 09:28 AM

So it must be available then in version 2.x, while I have 1.1 (and doesn't want to record 50P)?
It does record it into 25P instead which is a bummer at the moment.

Jonathan Nelson · December 12th, 2007, 12:41 PM

The only thing keeping me from buying a xdcam ex is the overpriced cards. I would have to spend at least 3k on cards.

So, I have a DR-HD100 already, could this be used in place of the cards at least until third party media is accepted?

I am fully aware that only the HDV setting of the xdcam ex is able to feed through the firewire port.

Kit Hannah · December 12th, 2007, 02:25 PM

Everyone kees saying that the Sony cards will come down in price shortly. Supposedly you can run the Firestore as long as it is in HDV mode on the camera, so I don't see why not. I think though that you'll find there will be a ton of options for recording to the EX1's when they start allowing other brands of cards to be used and when they have adapters to go to SD, CF, etc. Then storage will become VERY cheap.
Kit

Jonathan Nelson · December 12th, 2007, 03:21 PM

ok, I will go ahead and assume the dr-hd100 will work with the ex1.

Now for my next question. I am guessing the dr-hd100 is not able to convert the data from the ex1 into a quicktime format (.m2t to .mov).

So, the dr-hd100 would then record raw m2t files?

I am trying to figure out the workflow. I use FCP so m2t files make things a little more complicated.

Kit Hannah · December 12th, 2007, 10:56 PM

Depending on when you purchased the drive, there is an upgrade that will allow you to natively capture quicktime instead of .m2t. Check on the Focus site for more info.

Claude Mangold · January 12th, 2008, 12:21 PM

OK situation resolved, all 720p formats now work here with QT - our mac vendor just put a whole bunch of plugins on the mac and it worked ! but in too much hurry to identify which plugin did the trick.

Justin Deming · January 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM

Hi, I have a JVC HD-100, hooked up to a FS-4 Pro HD, and I use Vegas 6 to edit. (would love to move to vegas 8 when i can)

So far I have no problems, with the exception of being limited to SD for things like time lapse, and stop motion.

What exactly do you mean by "I cant get timecode into vegas."? I am assuming you are able to import your files into Vegas. If so, there must be some sort of timecode. Do you want the time code generated from the camera, or the Firestore?

I may be the worst person to ask though. I have been messing with this stuff for over a year, and still can't get the concept of timecode straight. The only place it would matter to me would be for multi camera shoots so i could switch cameras in post & keep everything alligned time wise. But until I have more than one camera I have no use for it that I can see.

Claude Mangold · January 21st, 2008, 01:24 AM

Hi,

Our HDD sends this signal to the camera's display (GY-HD251) every now and then in the middle of a take:

------------------------------
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
------------------------------

it seems to indicate a dropout but apparently not always.

The FW connection is correctly plugged in.

Can anyone tell me what this is due to ? Thanks

Simon Reilly · January 21st, 2008, 05:09 PM

On my JVC HD 200 and firestore hd 100, I noticed the same DDDDDDDDDDD. s
This happened twice , as far as I know , but I have been editing this footage and have not noticed any dropped frames or any other problems as of yet.
But it is a bit strange.
I am wondering if it is the firewire connections , that even on my old JVC hd 100 seemed a bit loose.

sr

Ian Planchon · January 22nd, 2008, 11:48 AM

see, I think a lot of people think that their equipment is running fine, when its not.

I have called firestore, and had them try and pull clips in, and even they cant find the original timecode. so I would be interested to see who else is having this same problem.

to clear things up, the problem is this:

when you record (in any format, HD, SD, QT, M2T, AVI) video, lets say you shoot 4 clips, with the time code starting at 0:00:00:00, you shoot 15 seconds of video per clip so you have a minute of video. Now, I want the sound bites at 0:00:15:00 and 0:00:30:00, so I pull the video clips from the hard drive and into vegas, go to load the clips into either the trimmer window or straight to the timeline, and the time code all starts at 0:00:00:00. for ALL clips. so apparently firestore hasnt fully tested the DR HD100 with vegas yet, even thought the website says it has.

anyway, thats the problem. i guess a lot of people dont actually rely on timecode, so they arent seeing this as a problem.

Dan Parkes · January 24th, 2008, 07:30 AM

On a shoot in Portugal, the DR-HD100, which was attached to a JVC GYHD201 camera via a Manfrotto hot shoe mount, suddenly worked its way loose and fell on to a marble floor (at a height of about 4-5ft). It was one of those moments when you can only watch in horror (no chance of catching it). Clients and crew stand around in stunned silence. I picked it up expecting that to be the end of it... but it is still working, with no apparent damage at all...

Has anyone else experienced something similar? Will it suddenly die an early death? Or are these units built to withstand such a fall?...

Any feedback appreciated!

Dan

Paulo Figueiredo · January 24th, 2008, 09:15 AM

I too dropped my Firestore. Fortunately it was off at the time and nothing bad came of it.
The firestore is essentially an hard-drive connected to a controller.
IMO and having dropped a lot of electronics if it doesnt move inside it is hard to harm. So, your firestore's controller part should be ok.
On the hard-drive side it depends if it was completely off, recording or in idle mode (turned on but not recording). If it was recording there is a big chance that the disk got bad sectors. It wont die suddenly but can get you a lot of pain with random errors.
First step for you to be safe: mount it on the pc as you would for footage transfer and do a thorough scan (properties-tools-check errors-scan for bad sectors on XP)
The ultimate step would be to swap the disk itself inside for a brand new identical or larger 2,5in laptop harddrive. It voids your warranty but could prevent footage loss in the future.

Paulo
p.s.: hope you liked your stay in Portugal

December 6th, 2007, 09:59 PM	#182
Adam Letch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 414	This is from the focus site Nonlinear Editing System Compatibility No matter which nonlinear editing (NLE) system you have, the Focus DR-HD100 has you covered. When in DV mode, files are recorded to disk as RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, AVI Type 2 24p, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, QuickTime 24p, Avid OMF, Pinnacle AVI or MXF. In HD mode, 720p clips are recorded as M2T (720p24, 25, 30, 50 or 60) files or QuickTime HDV (720p24, 25 or 30). When working with DV clips, simply connect the JVC DR-HD100 to your Mac or PC editing system in the same way you would connect a FireWire hard disk drive and you are instantly ready to edit. No capturing, no file transfer, no file conversion. Just shoot and edit. When working in HD mode, you’re able to work with a growing list of compatible NLE systems. Focus DR-HD100 QuickTime HDV Support Upgrade Available Now With the DR-HD100 v2.2.1 firmware upgrade, JVC GY-HD100, HD200 and HD250 series camcorder owners can record 720p/30,25 and 24 clips in the native QuickTime HDV file format. QuickTime HDV clips can be imported directly into Apple Final Cut Pro without the need for capture or conversion first. and the pdf http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...20DR-HD100.pdf

December 6th, 2007, 10:45 PM	#183
Adam Letch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 414	This is from the focus site Nonlinear Editing System Compatibility No matter which nonlinear editing (NLE) system you have, the Focus DR-HD100 has you covered. When in DV mode, files are recorded to disk as RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, AVI Type 2 24p, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, QuickTime 24p, Avid OMF, Pinnacle AVI or MXF. In HD mode, 720p clips are recorded as M2T (720p24, 25, 30, 50 or 60) files or QuickTime HDV (720p24, 25 or 30). When working with DV clips, simply connect the JVC DR-HD100 to your Mac or PC editing system in the same way you would connect a FireWire hard disk drive and you are instantly ready to edit. No capturing, no file transfer, no file conversion. Just shoot and edit. When working in HD mode, you’re able to work with a growing list of compatible NLE systems. Focus DR-HD100 QuickTime HDV Support Upgrade Available Now With the DR-HD100 v2.2.1 firmware upgrade, JVC GY-HD100, HD200 and HD250 series camcorder owners can record 720p/30,25 and 24 clips in the native QuickTime HDV file format. QuickTime HDV clips can be imported directly into Apple Final Cut Pro without the need for capture or conversion first. and the pdf http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...20DR-HD100.pdf edit - sorry Chris double post, really tired today :-P Last edited by Adam Letch; December 6th, 2007 at 11:55 PM.

December 12th, 2007, 12:41 PM	#185
Jonathan Nelson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kingman Arizona Posts: 298	XDCAM EX w/ DR-HD100? The only thing keeping me from buying a xdcam ex is the overpriced cards. I would have to spend at least 3k on cards. So, I have a DR-HD100 already, could this be used in place of the cards at least until third party media is accepted? I am fully aware that only the HDV setting of the xdcam ex is able to feed through the firewire port. __________________ Florescent tungsten hovered under cubicle design

December 12th, 2007, 03:21 PM	#187
Jonathan Nelson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kingman Arizona Posts: 298	ok, I will go ahead and assume the dr-hd100 will work with the ex1. Now for my next question. I am guessing the dr-hd100 is not able to convert the data from the ex1 into a quicktime format (.m2t to .mov). So, the dr-hd100 would then record raw m2t files? I am trying to figure out the workflow. I use FCP so m2t files make things a little more complicated. __________________ Florescent tungsten hovered under cubicle design

January 21st, 2008, 01:24 AM	#191
Claude Mangold Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Berlin and Geneva Posts: 259	DDDDDDDDDDDD signal GY-HD100 Hi, Our HDD sends this signal to the camera's display (GY-HD251) every now and then in the middle of a take: ------------------------------ DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD ------------------------------ it seems to indicate a dropout but apparently not always. The FW connection is correctly plugged in. Can anyone tell me what this is due to ? Thanks

December 6th, 2007, 06:27 PM	#181
Javier Tabares Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: SPAIN Posts: 31	Final cut 6.0.2 now have hdv50p codec implemented, so focus now can work for DR-HD100 work in quicktime 50p, when? i don´t know. By now DR-HD100 only can work in quicktime in 24, 25, and 30p and 50p in m2t.

December 9th, 2007, 09:28 AM	#184
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	So it must be available then in version 2.x, while I have 1.1 (and doesn't want to record 50P)? It does record it into 25P instead which is a bummer at the moment.

December 12th, 2007, 02:25 PM	#186
Kit Hannah Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fresno, California Posts: 528	Everyone kees saying that the Sony cards will come down in price shortly. Supposedly you can run the Firestore as long as it is in HDV mode on the camera, so I don't see why not. I think though that you'll find there will be a ton of options for recording to the EX1's when they start allowing other brands of cards to be used and when they have adapters to go to SD, CF, etc. Then storage will become VERY cheap. Kit

December 12th, 2007, 10:56 PM	#188
Kit Hannah Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fresno, California Posts: 528	Depending on when you purchased the drive, there is an upgrade that will allow you to natively capture quicktime instead of .m2t. Check on the Focus site for more info.

January 12th, 2008, 12:21 PM	#189
Claude Mangold Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Berlin and Geneva Posts: 259	OK situation resolved, all 720p formats now work here with QT - our mac vendor just put a whole bunch of plugins on the mac and it worked ! but in too much hurry to identify which plugin did the trick.

January 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#190
Justin Deming Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MA Posts: 84	Hi, I have a JVC HD-100, hooked up to a FS-4 Pro HD, and I use Vegas 6 to edit. (would love to move to vegas 8 when i can) So far I have no problems, with the exception of being limited to SD for things like time lapse, and stop motion. What exactly do you mean by "I cant get timecode into vegas."? I am assuming you are able to import your files into Vegas. If so, there must be some sort of timecode. Do you want the time code generated from the camera, or the Firestore? I may be the worst person to ask though. I have been messing with this stuff for over a year, and still can't get the concept of timecode straight. The only place it would matter to me would be for multi camera shoots so i could switch cameras in post & keep everything alligned time wise. But until I have more than one camera I have no use for it that I can see.

January 21st, 2008, 05:09 PM	#192
Simon Reilly New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 21	Same thing On my JVC HD 200 and firestore hd 100, I noticed the same DDDDDDDDDDD. s This happened twice , as far as I know , but I have been editing this footage and have not noticed any dropped frames or any other problems as of yet. But it is a bit strange. I am wondering if it is the firewire connections , that even on my old JVC hd 100 seemed a bit loose. sr __________________ Simon Reilly

January 22nd, 2008, 11:48 AM	#193
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	see, I think a lot of people think that their equipment is running fine, when its not. I have called firestore, and had them try and pull clips in, and even they cant find the original timecode. so I would be interested to see who else is having this same problem. to clear things up, the problem is this: when you record (in any format, HD, SD, QT, M2T, AVI) video, lets say you shoot 4 clips, with the time code starting at 0:00:00:00, you shoot 15 seconds of video per clip so you have a minute of video. Now, I want the sound bites at 0:00:15:00 and 0:00:30:00, so I pull the video clips from the hard drive and into vegas, go to load the clips into either the trimmer window or straight to the timeline, and the time code all starts at 0:00:00:00. for ALL clips. so apparently firestore hasnt fully tested the DR HD100 with vegas yet, even thought the website says it has. anyway, thats the problem. i guess a lot of people dont actually rely on timecode, so they arent seeing this as a problem.

January 24th, 2008, 07:30 AM	#194
Dan Parkes Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 154	Dropped the DR-HD100... On a shoot in Portugal, the DR-HD100, which was attached to a JVC GYHD201 camera via a Manfrotto hot shoe mount, suddenly worked its way loose and fell on to a marble floor (at a height of about 4-5ft). It was one of those moments when you can only watch in horror (no chance of catching it). Clients and crew stand around in stunned silence. I picked it up expecting that to be the end of it... but it is still working, with no apparent damage at all... Has anyone else experienced something similar? Will it suddenly die an early death? Or are these units built to withstand such a fall?... Any feedback appreciated! Dan __________________ Canon C300 Mk2 x 2, Rotolight Anova Pro and Neos, Ronin Gimbal, Phantom 4 Pro UAV www.danthecameraman.co.uk

January 24th, 2008, 09:15 AM	#195
Paulo Figueiredo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mafra portugal Posts: 33	I too dropped my Firestore. Fortunately it was off at the time and nothing bad came of it. The firestore is essentially an hard-drive connected to a controller. IMO and having dropped a lot of electronics if it doesnt move inside it is hard to harm. So, your firestore's controller part should be ok. On the hard-drive side it depends if it was completely off, recording or in idle mode (turned on but not recording). If it was recording there is a big chance that the disk got bad sectors. It wont die suddenly but can get you a lot of pain with random errors. First step for you to be safe: mount it on the pc as you would for footage transfer and do a thorough scan (properties-tools-check errors-scan for bad sectors on XP) The ultimate step would be to swap the disk itself inside for a brand new identical or larger 2,5in laptop harddrive. It voids your warranty but could prevent footage loss in the future. Paulo p.s.: hope you liked your stay in Portugal