FS4 / FS4 Pro HD various topics at DVinfo.net

Stephen van Vuuren · August 15th, 2004, 09:09 AM

Having seen the announcement about the FS-4, I have to see this is the first DTD product that interests me.

I shoot with a DVX100a, usually 24p 2:3 pulldown, - I assume no rendering or conversion would be needed for me to edit in Vegas 5?

Matt McEwen · August 15th, 2004, 10:54 PM

Hi Stephan,

Yes, we will have 24p AVI Type 2 support in FireStore FS-4. This format can be used with no rendering or conversion in Premiere Pro and Vegas Video. FS-3 also supports this format.

Hope that helps.

Matt McEwen

Stephen van Vuuren · August 15th, 2004, 10:57 PM

Excellent news.

Gary Bettan · August 16th, 2004, 09:22 AM

Ok guys - here is what I was able to work out for DV Info Net members. We have put together a special offer from Focus and Videoguys for a $50 Instant Rebate coupon. Just use coupon code DVINFOFS4 when you order on line or over the phone.

This is in additon to our FS-4 launch promotion:

FireStore Fs-4 Pre-Order price is $749.95
Bonus! Free extra battery - Custom Removeable Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery Pack (90 Min run time) $129 (value)

So DV Info Net memebers will get the FireStore FS-4 for $699.95 plus a FREE 2nd battery! http://www.videoguys.com/FireStore.html

Gary
Videoguys.com

Imran Zaidi · August 16th, 2004, 09:45 AM

Wow that sounds like a really great deal. Thanks videoguys!

Mark Whittle · August 17th, 2004, 06:00 AM

Does that offer stand for those of us in the outer suburbs of the global village?

Cheers
Mark

Gary Bettan · August 17th, 2004, 07:47 AM

We can ship anywhere in the world, as long as UPS or FedEx can deliver there. With shipping charges & import taxes it will probably be cheaper to find it locally.

Gary
Videoguys.com

Ron Edwards · February 8th, 2005, 09:17 PM

Any one using the Firestore FS-4 recording system with a GL-2?

Results?

Chris Hurd · February 9th, 2005, 08:08 AM

Ron, I've seen this combo only at trade shows so far, but you'de think they work together very well since both Focus Enhancements and Canon USA have ads out right now that predominately show the FS-4 with a GL2.

See http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...rder_accessory.

Rick Pearson · February 9th, 2005, 09:03 AM

Is there anyway to upgrade the FS-4 in terms of recording formats as they become available in the future? I know that the hard drive is fixed at 40g or 80g, but what about firmware, etc.

I have no problem buying a unit fixed at 40 or 80 gigs, but I won't sink money into something that won't accept emerging recording formats, especially here on the edge of HD, HDV (which I've heard mentioned once in reference to firestore.), etc.

Anyone know if there's room to grow with FS-4 Pro?

Matt McEwen · February 11th, 2005, 12:06 AM

Hi Rick,

All the FireStore models except FS-1 are upgradeable in the field with a simple software upload. Stay tuned for more news on HD support.

Hope that helps,

Matt

Matt McEwen · February 11th, 2005, 12:09 AM

Hi Ron,

Yes the FS-4 and GL2 are compatible. I was using this setup just today! One thing I didn't know about the GL2, is that it is possible to superimpose date, time and other info over the video on the FireWire out. A lot of people ask us about this and I haven't seen it on many other camcorders.

Matt

Mihnea De Vries · February 14th, 2005, 09:06 AM

I understand that are 2 models, one NTSC and a PAL version,
The file formats i'm interested are 25p. DVX100AE and XL2 PAL are 25P, not 24P, and my question is if FS-4 PAL will have the option to save the files in Quicktime 25P instead of Quicktine 24P.

Mihnea de Vries

Rob Lohman · February 14th, 2005, 09:19 AM

Hello Mihnea and welcome aboard DVInfo.net. I don't know for
sure, but I would be highly suprised if the unit is available in
different versions like that. The digital signal is almost identical
in PAL versus NTSC, so I would assume that it works with both
(as is the case with all DV equipment thusfar).

24P isn't supported yet I think. But 30p is and 25p should as well.

Mihnea De Vries · February 14th, 2005, 09:58 AM

Hello Rob

files supprted until now are:

RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, AVI Type 2 24p, QuickTime 24p

sow there are 24p files but no 25p for PAL, but
they also advertise this:

25Mb/s, 8-bit 4:1:1 (NTSC-DV) or 4:2:0 (PAL-DV) video (model dependent)

that's why i assumed that are 2 diferent models, NTSC and PAL

so it makes no sens for 24P on the PAL version since PAL is 25 fps

i'm still confused and hope Matt will answer this one:)

Thanks...

August 15th, 2004, 09:09 AM	#1
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	FS-4 & Vegas 5 Having seen the announcement about the FS-4, I have to see this is the first DTD product that interests me. I shoot with a DVX100a, usually 24p 2:3 pulldown, - I assume no rendering or conversion would be needed for me to edit in Vegas 5? __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 15th, 2004, 10:57 PM	#3
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Excellent news. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 16th, 2004, 09:22 AM	#4
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	FireStore FS-4 offer for DV Info Net members Ok guys - here is what I was able to work out for DV Info Net members. We have put together a special offer from Focus and Videoguys for a $50 Instant Rebate coupon. Just use coupon code DVINFOFS4 when you order on line or over the phone. This is in additon to our FS-4 launch promotion: FireStore Fs-4 Pre-Order price is $749.95 Bonus! Free extra battery - Custom Removeable Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery Pack (90 Min run time) $129 (value) So DV Info Net memebers will get the FireStore FS-4 for $699.95 plus a FREE 2nd battery! http://www.videoguys.com/FireStore.html Gary Videoguys.com __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

August 17th, 2004, 06:00 AM	#6
Mark Whittle Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bunbury, Western Australia Posts: 153	Does that offer stand for those of us in the outer suburbs of the global village? Cheers Mark __________________ MW

August 17th, 2004, 07:47 AM	#7
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	We can ship anywhere in the world, as long as UPS or FedEx can deliver there. With shipping charges & import taxes it will probably be cheaper to find it locally. Gary Videoguys.com __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

August 15th, 2004, 10:54 PM	#2
Matt McEwen Focus Enhancements Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Campbell, CA. Posts: 508	Hi Stephan, Yes, we will have 24p AVI Type 2 support in FireStore FS-4. This format can be used with no rendering or conversion in Premiere Pro and Vegas Video. FS-3 also supports this format. Hope that helps. Matt McEwen

August 16th, 2004, 09:45 AM	#5
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Wow that sounds like a really great deal. Thanks videoguys!

February 8th, 2005, 09:17 PM	#8
Ron Edwards Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fairview Heights, Illinois Posts: 148	Firestore FS-4 Any one using the Firestore FS-4 recording system with a GL-2? Results?

February 9th, 2005, 08:08 AM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Ron, I've seen this combo only at trade shows so far, but you'de think they work together very well since both Focus Enhancements and Canon USA have ads out right now that predominately show the FS-4 with a GL2. See http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...rder_accessory. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 9th, 2005, 09:03 AM	#10
Rick Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 55	Growing up with FS-4 Pro Is there anyway to upgrade the FS-4 in terms of recording formats as they become available in the future? I know that the hard drive is fixed at 40g or 80g, but what about firmware, etc. I have no problem buying a unit fixed at 40 or 80 gigs, but I won't sink money into something that won't accept emerging recording formats, especially here on the edge of HD, HDV (which I've heard mentioned once in reference to firestore.), etc. Anyone know if there's room to grow with FS-4 Pro? __________________ Rick Pearson, http://www.nextlevelmediaproductions.com

February 11th, 2005, 12:06 AM	#11
Matt McEwen Focus Enhancements Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Campbell, CA. Posts: 508	Hi Rick, All the FireStore models except FS-1 are upgradeable in the field with a simple software upload. Stay tuned for more news on HD support. Hope that helps, Matt

February 11th, 2005, 12:09 AM	#12
Matt McEwen Focus Enhancements Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Campbell, CA. Posts: 508	Hi Ron, Yes the FS-4 and GL2 are compatible. I was using this setup just today! One thing I didn't know about the GL2, is that it is possible to superimpose date, time and other info over the video on the FireWire out. A lot of people ask us about this and I haven't seen it on many other camcorders. Matt

February 14th, 2005, 09:06 AM	#13
Mihnea De Vries New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Romania Posts: 5	FS-4 PAL version I understand that are 2 models, one NTSC and a PAL version, The file formats i'm interested are 25p. DVX100AE and XL2 PAL are 25P, not 24P, and my question is if FS-4 PAL will have the option to save the files in Quicktime 25P instead of Quicktine 24P. Mihnea de Vries

February 14th, 2005, 09:19 AM	#14
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Hello Mihnea and welcome aboard DVInfo.net. I don't know for sure, but I would be highly suprised if the unit is available in different versions like that. The digital signal is almost identical in PAL versus NTSC, so I would assume that it works with both (as is the case with all DV equipment thusfar). 24P isn't supported yet I think. But 30p is and 25p should as well. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 14th, 2005, 09:58 AM	#15
Mihnea De Vries New Boot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Romania Posts: 5	Hello Rob files supprted until now are: RawDV, AVI Type 1, AVI Type 2, Matrox AVI, Canopus AVI, QuickTime, AVI Type 2 24p, QuickTime 24p sow there are 24p files but no 25p for PAL, but they also advertise this: 25Mb/s, 8-bit 4:1:1 (NTSC-DV) or 4:2:0 (PAL-DV) video (model dependent) that's why i assumed that are 2 diferent models, NTSC and PAL so it makes no sens for 24P on the PAL version since PAL is 25 fps i'm still confused and hope Matt will answer this one:) Thanks...