Firestore FS-C various topics

Colin McFadden · April 4th, 2007, 03:27 PM

This update won't work on an FS4-ProHD, just tried it.

:(

Ryan Flesher · April 4th, 2007, 11:46 PM

Anyone know if the FS-c would work with the Canon HV-20?
With the new update can you record the 24p mode? I guess you would record it at 1080/60i right?
Ryan

John Richard · April 5th, 2007, 08:38 AM

Thanks for trying anyway.

It's a shame as we were led to believe the FS4-ProHD was THE unit for the XLH1.

We can not use the unit when shooting HD for a FCP editor. And it's a real problem as several of our client stations have gone to FCP as their editor. So instead of handing off a a Firestore to them for editing, we have to either go thru the extra steps of capturing and converting the m2t files to QT or hand off HDV tapes for them to capture - an extra step for them. ..Or just stick with 60i.

Can someone from Firestore explain why there is no patch for the FS4-ProHD?

Colin McFadden · April 5th, 2007, 09:01 AM

Agreed, I feel the same. I've got three of them and am not particularly interested in tossing them out to buy FS-Cs.

If Focus would come out and say "Yeah, there's X Y Z special chip in the FS-C that allows it to do 24p HDV, so we can't port it to the FS4ProHD" I'd understand, but up until now it's seemed very arbitrary. Poking through a hex dump of the FS-C update, one gets a similar impression ...

Ryan Flesher · April 5th, 2007, 05:06 PM

I downloaded the update and it works like magic with my FS-C, XH-A1 and FCP.
Now if I could just get it to work with my HV20.
Ryan

James Jackson · April 5th, 2007, 05:29 PM

Word from ZGC.com is that the FS-C 100 are shipping from Canon/Focus and should be in their hands by the end of this week. I've asked but didn't get word yet if and when the FS-C 60 will be shipping.

James Jackson · April 5th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Flesher

I downloaded the update and it works like magic with my FS-C, XH-A1 and FCP.
Now if I could just get it to work with my HV20.
Ryan

Ryan, do you really own the FS-C? Where/when did you buy it?

Ryan Flesher · April 6th, 2007, 08:55 PM

Yes I own the 60BG version FS-C. I bought it off of a very unhappy customer that bought it for his XL-H1 and when it didn't work great he sold it to me for $500! He didn't wait for version 2.0 and the new 2.1. I have been using it as a paperweight for 4 months while I waited for the 2.1. Now I am happy, and he is...

James Jackson · April 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM

I just got mine shipped from zgc.com on Thursday. You just gotta hunt around.

Tom Houston · April 16th, 2007, 06:35 PM

Thanks James but you'll notice my original post was from almost a month ago and there weren’t any available back then.

James Jackson · April 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM

Well I got mine today but I also got an e-mail from B&H saying that they're in stock. I totally recommend it. Very cool and worked right outta the box.

Jan-Arden Petersen · May 10th, 2007, 11:34 AM

I recently received the 60 gig FS-C's for our A1 cameras and have been working with them before our next shoot. The problem is that when set up for Quicktime, the only file that is recorded is the audio portion. I'm capturing default frame rate in HDV. When set to Mt2, all works as expected with both video and audio captured. Am I overlooking something in either the FS-C setup or the XH-A1 configuration?

Thank you for any thoughts you may have.

Jan-Arden Peteren

Ryan Flesher · May 11th, 2007, 10:37 AM

Do you have the newest update. 2.1? I think only in the last few weeks have they shipped with it built in.
Are you shooting 24F? or 60i? The 2.0 won't record 24f as QT. 2.1 will work fine.
Make sure have the camera hooked up when you turn on the Firestore. Sometimes that helps.
Ryan

Blake Calhoun · May 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM

I know the FS-C is designed to work with Canon cameras and I have an A1, but I also have an HV20. Will it work with both these?

Thanks for the help.

Ryan Flesher · May 14th, 2007, 11:55 AM

I too have a XH-a1 and a HV-20. The FS-C works great with the Xh-A1 in all modes (if you have version 2.1). It also works with the HV-20 if you shoot straight HDV 60i. I could not get it to work with the 24p option however.
Ryan

April 4th, 2007, 03:27 PM	#61
Colin McFadden Sponsor: divergent media Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 201	This update won't work on an FS4-ProHD, just tried it. :( __________________ Divergent Media Support www.divergentmedia.com Last edited by Colin McFadden; April 4th, 2007 at 07:39 PM.

April 4th, 2007, 11:46 PM	#62
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	HV20 and FS-C Anyone know if the FS-c would work with the Canon HV-20? With the new update can you record the 24p mode? I guess you would record it at 1080/60i right? Ryan

April 5th, 2007, 09:01 AM	#64
Colin McFadden Sponsor: divergent media Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 201	Agreed, I feel the same. I've got three of them and am not particularly interested in tossing them out to buy FS-Cs. If Focus would come out and say "Yeah, there's X Y Z special chip in the FS-C that allows it to do 24p HDV, so we can't port it to the FS4ProHD" I'd understand, but up until now it's seemed very arbitrary. Poking through a hex dump of the FS-C update, one gets a similar impression ... __________________ Divergent Media Support www.divergentmedia.com

April 5th, 2007, 05:29 PM	#66
James Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leesburg Florida Posts: 65	FS-C 100 Shipping..... Word from ZGC.com is that the FS-C 100 are shipping from Canon/Focus and should be in their hands by the end of this week. I've asked but didn't get word yet if and when the FS-C 60 will be shipping.

May 10th, 2007, 11:34 AM	#72
Jan-Arden Petersen New Boot Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: La Crescent, MN Posts: 7	New FS-C problem I recently received the 60 gig FS-C's for our A1 cameras and have been working with them before our next shoot. The problem is that when set up for Quicktime, the only file that is recorded is the audio portion. I'm capturing default frame rate in HDV. When set to Mt2, all works as expected with both video and audio captured. Am I overlooking something in either the FS-C setup or the XH-A1 configuration? Thank you for any thoughts you may have. Jan-Arden Peteren

April 5th, 2007, 08:38 AM	#63
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Thanks for trying anyway. It's a shame as we were led to believe the FS4-ProHD was THE unit for the XLH1. We can not use the unit when shooting HD for a FCP editor. And it's a real problem as several of our client stations have gone to FCP as their editor. So instead of handing off a a Firestore to them for editing, we have to either go thru the extra steps of capturing and converting the m2t files to QT or hand off HDV tapes for them to capture - an extra step for them. ..Or just stick with 60i. Can someone from Firestore explain why there is no patch for the FS4-ProHD?

April 5th, 2007, 05:06 PM	#65
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	I downloaded the update and it works like magic with my FS-C, XH-A1 and FCP. Now if I could just get it to work with my HV20. Ryan

April 6th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#68
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Yes I own the 60BG version FS-C. I bought it off of a very unhappy customer that bought it for his XL-H1 and when it didn't work great he sold it to me for $500! He didn't wait for version 2.0 and the new 2.1. I have been using it as a paperweight for 4 months while I waited for the 2.1. Now I am happy, and he is...

April 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM	#69
James Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leesburg Florida Posts: 65	I just got mine shipped from zgc.com on Thursday. You just gotta hunt around.

April 16th, 2007, 06:35 PM	#70
Tom Houston New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 24	Thanks James but you'll notice my original post was from almost a month ago and there weren’t any available back then.

April 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM	#71
James Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leesburg Florida Posts: 65	Well I got mine today but I also got an e-mail from B&H saying that they're in stock. I totally recommend it. Very cool and worked right outta the box.

May 11th, 2007, 10:37 AM	#73
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Do you have the newest update. 2.1? I think only in the last few weeks have they shipped with it built in. Are you shooting 24F? or 60i? The 2.0 won't record 24f as QT. 2.1 will work fine. Make sure have the camera hooked up when you turn on the Firestore. Sometimes that helps. Ryan

May 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM	#74
Blake Calhoun Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 157	FS-C for A1 and HV20? I know the FS-C is designed to work with Canon cameras and I have an A1, but I also have an HV20. Will it work with both these? Thanks for the help. __________________ Mainly dabble in features and WebTV: www.pinktheseries.com \| www.facebook.com/continuumtv \| www.killingdown.com

May 14th, 2007, 11:55 AM	#75
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Fs-c I too have a XH-a1 and a HV-20. The FS-C works great with the Xh-A1 in all modes (if you have version 2.1). It also works with the HV-20 if you shoot straight HDV 60i. I could not get it to work with the 24p option however. Ryan