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June 21st, 2016, 04:30 AM | #1 |
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Let's hope the long wait is over...
The FAA will be holding a press conference at 1PM EDT today (6-21-16), presumably to announce the final rule for Part 107 of the FAR's. This is the section that will finally codify regulations and requirements for commercial use of sUAS in the US.
Here is a rundown from Drone Law Journal... Drone Law Journal | Leaked: Latest Summary of Part 107 UPDATE: The press conference is now scheduled for 10 AM EDT. |
June 21st, 2016, 09:13 AM | #2 |
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Re: Let's hope the long wait is over...
And here is the full 600+ pages of the final rule for Part 107. Should be in effect in around 60 days from now.
http://www.faa.gov/uas/media/RIN_212...ean_Signed.pdf |
June 21st, 2016, 10:35 AM | #3 |
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Re: Let's hope the long wait is over...
To get certification (Page 383) shows you take test (initial aeronautical knowledge exam). IF you pass, next is the TSA clearing you. Then you get a temporary license, good for 120 days, while waiting for the final FAA licensing.
NO flight profiency or experience requirements. NO flight training or course is required. |
June 21st, 2016, 05:49 PM | #4 |
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Re: Let's hope the long wait is over...
FAA has a page outlining the process, and describing the "initial aeronautical knowledge" test criteria.
Becoming a Pilot Sounds very reasonable.. Pass the initial aeronautical knowledge test – initial knowledge test areas include: Applicable regulations relating to small unmanned aircraft system rating privileges, limitations, and flight operation Airspace classification and operating requirements, and flight restrictions affecting small unmanned aircraft operation Aviation weather sources and effects of weather on small unmanned aircraft performance Small unmanned aircraft loading and performance Emergency procedures Crew resource management Radio communication procedures Determining the performance of small unmanned aircraft Physiological effects of drugs and alcohol Aeronautical decision-making and judgment Airport operations Maintenance and preflight inspection procedures |
June 22nd, 2016, 07:31 AM | #5 |
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Very reasonable and not a huge cost burden. The testing will cost $150. I don't know if that price is set by FAA, or if the designated testing facilities can set their own price. However, $150 is what the document above showed as the cost analysis.
The testing won't be available until August when the rules go into effect, so you have some time to study while waiting. Also of note, if you are a licensed airman with a current BFR, you can take an online version which will only deal with specifics of sUAS operations as it's assumed that you already have knowledge of airspace types and operating requirements, weather, weight and balance, etc. That's also very reasonable. -gb- |
June 22nd, 2016, 07:52 AM | #6 |
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Re: Let's hope the long wait is over...
What am I supposed to be studying?
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June 27th, 2016, 12:19 AM | #7 |
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Is the answer so painfully clear that nobody answered, or does no one else know either?
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June 27th, 2016, 11:32 AM | #8 |
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Taking a look at the list of topics in the link I posted, to me this sounds a lot like a written drivers license test. Depending on how the FAA want to play this, it could be as simple as reading a 100 page "Drone Pilot's Handbook" with a test at an approved facility. Or it could mean a half day course that walks you through said handbook, followed by the test.
It really sounds like a basic safety test and I can't imagine anyone would need months to study for it. But no....you're right...at this point, nobody knows. |
June 27th, 2016, 11:34 AM | #9 |
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Also, I'm curious to hear interpretations of not flying over people "not directly involved in the operation". I shoot a lot of marathons and half marathons. I'm employed by the race organizer. If there are 10,000 people running, are they involved in the operation? If there are another 20,000 spectators, are they directly involved?
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June 27th, 2016, 01:35 PM | #10 |
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Re: Let's hope the long wait is over...
I have already taken the Part 107 online test. Easy to pass. For Part 61 pilots who are current, this is all you need to do for now. In 60 days, when the RPC with sUAS rating application form becomes available, that's all the testing you will need.
The online test is also good practice for those who are not current or are not licensed pilots. Those individuals will need to go to a testing center to take the extended test which will cover airspace types, chart reading, etc. There is no charge for taking the online test. -gb- |
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almost certainly not OK. At least, not flying directly overhead. Here, the danger would be that the crowds (both running and not) aren't paying attention to or possibly even not aware of your drone, which I'm sure would be the standard. By flying directly over them, they're at risk. |
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June 27th, 2016, 01:40 PM | #12 | |
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July 6th, 2016, 11:23 AM | #13 | |
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As Greg mentions, it's never these angles that I'm taking shots from... If I'm doing aerial ops, I'm off to the side and (usually) moving. But to get there... gotta fly over people. |
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July 8th, 2016, 10:52 AM | #14 |
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So it is not allowed to fly a small 5lb radio control model airplane over people because if they get cut, its unsafe, but it is ok and safe to fly a 3000 lb jet engine powered helicopter with high speed whirling blades of death?
Yes, this makes total sense.
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July 8th, 2016, 06:16 PM | #15 |
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If you follow the same maintenance procedures as a $1M helicopter, file for an FAA exemption. Fly wherever you want. If you're buying a DJI drone that uses $18 motors... don't hover over people.
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