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Warren Kawamoto · May 10th, 2014, 12:42 AM

Could have been catastrophic if the drone was sucked into the engine.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t2

Andy Wilkinson · May 10th, 2014, 01:38 AM

Agreed. Saw it reported by the BBC this morning too.

BBC News - US air official says drone 'almost collided with plane'

Steve Montoto · May 10th, 2014, 11:32 AM

The pilot described a small camouflaged F-4 Fixed wing aircraft.

To my knowledge that is a model RC Airplane and NOT a drone. Model RC airplanes have been around for 50 years. This story is just the media sensationalizing to get viewers with the word drone I believe.

However, because of the prices now. I do think there are a bunch of irresponsible idiots out there who buy phantoms etc. so Its just a matter of time before some of these boneheads ruin it for the responsible flyers.

my 2cents.

P.S. Im not saying people who own Phantoms are idiots, I have one myself. Just saying there are alot of irresponsible people who do buy them.

Warren Kawamoto · May 25th, 2014, 10:25 AM

Innocent people will get hurt needlessly. Without proper certification, it's just a matter of time...
LiveLeak.com - Drone Attacks innocent family on the beach!
LiveLeak.com - US airlines pilot says he almost crashed into a drone in mid-air

Robert Benda · May 25th, 2014, 10:28 AM

The one with the family at the beach looks like its the operator who knocks it down.

John Steele · May 25th, 2014, 04:06 PM

It was, he has the remote control in his hand.

John,

Chuck Spaulding · May 26th, 2014, 02:44 PM

It does look like the operator was the one who batted it away, interestingly it also didn't appear like anyone was injured which also demonstrates that more often than not MR's aren't nearly as dangerous as people claim.

On the link about the near midair with US airways they show a picture of a "large" MR carrying a DSLR when in the article the pilot described the "RC" as a camouflaged F4 RC jet. First, even if it had been a MR the chances are it would have been a Phantom and not a MR worth approximately $8,000 with a $1500+ DSLR on it at that altitude. Second, there's also a hi probability that the F4 RC was a "Foamy" ducted fan that either some idiot was flying FPV or it was an out of control fly away that in the very unlikely chance that it would have been ingested into a jet engine would not have been catastrophic. Thirdly, the FAA contacted the DOD to see if it was one of theirs?

This whole thing is absurd. If anyone here wants commercial AP to be banned then start a thread stating that and make your case for banning it but posting youtube videos, news articles written by people who have little or no real knowledge of this issue and the resulting action taken by bureaucrats after reading these articles is pointless. It just serves to politicize the issue in a forum that I'm sure is meant to be about how to do AP safely and responsibly.

These kinds of threads are really getting old.

Warren Kawamoto · May 28th, 2014, 12:05 AM

My opinion is that ONLY licensed/qualified operators should be allowed to fly cameras. I know absolutely nothing about this video here, but it needs no words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=SFvEiOP6Zm4

Vince Pachiano · May 28th, 2014, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kawamoto

My opinion is that ONLY licensed/qualified operators should be allowed to fly cameras. I know absolutely nothing about this video here, but it needs no words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=SFvEiOP6Zm4

Here's another one. We need to get these menaces out of our lives! We need to license the operators, and make sure they are qualified!

Darren Levine · May 28th, 2014, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Kawamoto

My opinion is that ONLY licensed/qualified operators should be allowed to fly cameras. I know absolutely nothing about this video here, but it needs no words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=SFvEiOP6Zm4

Paul Mailath · May 29th, 2014, 04:07 AM

Thank you Darren - you have no idea how much I needed that - if you were on reddit I'd give you gold

Darren Levine · May 29th, 2014, 09:47 AM

i do what i can :)

Warren Kawamoto · May 30th, 2014, 09:28 AM

Another crash
Drone crashes into Met Square building downtown

Warren Kawamoto · May 30th, 2014, 10:10 AM

Now the FAA has issued a fine on this guy for recklessness.
New York Drone Crash Prompts Second FAA Fine for Reckless Flight - Businessweek

John Cash · June 2nd, 2014, 03:00 PM

I was at a little leauge game last month. A foul ball hit my cars rear windshield. You know.........broken window, near miss . a baby could have been in the backseat. Im calling the FAA.

May 10th, 2014, 12:42 AM	#1
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Near Misses... Could have been catastrophic if the drone was sucked into the engine. http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t2

May 10th, 2014, 01:38 AM	#2
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	re: Near Misses... Agreed. Saw it reported by the BBC this morning too. BBC News - US air official says drone 'almost collided with plane' __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

May 10th, 2014, 11:32 AM	#3
Steve Montoto Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 302	re: Near Misses... The pilot described a small camouflaged F-4 Fixed wing aircraft. To my knowledge that is a model RC Airplane and NOT a drone. Model RC airplanes have been around for 50 years. This story is just the media sensationalizing to get viewers with the word drone I believe. However, because of the prices now. I do think there are a bunch of irresponsible idiots out there who buy phantoms etc. so Its just a matter of time before some of these boneheads ruin it for the responsible flyers. my 2cents. P.S. Im not saying people who own Phantoms are idiots, I have one myself. Just saying there are alot of irresponsible people who do buy them.

May 25th, 2014, 10:25 AM	#4
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Near Misses Innocent people will get hurt needlessly. Without proper certification, it's just a matter of time... LiveLeak.com - Drone Attacks innocent family on the beach! LiveLeak.com - US airlines pilot says he almost crashed into a drone in mid-air

May 25th, 2014, 10:28 AM	#5
Robert Benda Trustee Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Crookston, MN Posts: 1,353	Re: Near Misses The one with the family at the beach looks like its the operator who knocks it down.

May 25th, 2014, 04:06 PM	#6
John Steele Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 216	Re: Near Misses It was, he has the remote control in his hand. John,

May 26th, 2014, 02:44 PM	#7
Chuck Spaulding Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 1,104	Re: Near Misses It does look like the operator was the one who batted it away, interestingly it also didn't appear like anyone was injured which also demonstrates that more often than not MR's aren't nearly as dangerous as people claim. On the link about the near midair with US airways they show a picture of a "large" MR carrying a DSLR when in the article the pilot described the "RC" as a camouflaged F4 RC jet. First, even if it had been a MR the chances are it would have been a Phantom and not a MR worth approximately $8,000 with a $1500+ DSLR on it at that altitude. Second, there's also a hi probability that the F4 RC was a "Foamy" ducted fan that either some idiot was flying FPV or it was an out of control fly away that in the very unlikely chance that it would have been ingested into a jet engine would not have been catastrophic. Thirdly, the FAA contacted the DOD to see if it was one of theirs? This whole thing is absurd. If anyone here wants commercial AP to be banned then start a thread stating that and make your case for banning it but posting youtube videos, news articles written by people who have little or no real knowledge of this issue and the resulting action taken by bureaucrats after reading these articles is pointless. It just serves to politicize the issue in a forum that I'm sure is meant to be about how to do AP safely and responsibly. These kinds of threads are really getting old.

May 28th, 2014, 12:05 AM	#8
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: Near Misses My opinion is that ONLY licensed/qualified operators should be allowed to fly cameras. I know absolutely nothing about this video here, but it needs no words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=SFvEiOP6Zm4

May 29th, 2014, 04:07 AM	#11
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,606	Re: Near Misses Thank you Darren - you have no idea how much I needed that - if you were on reddit I'd give you gold __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

May 29th, 2014, 09:47 AM	#12
Darren Levine Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NJ/NYC Posts: 563	Re: Near Misses i do what i can :) __________________ C100 - GH4 - NYC Shooter www.DarrenLevine.com

May 30th, 2014, 09:28 AM	#13
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: Near Misses Another crash Drone crashes into Met Square building downtown

May 30th, 2014, 10:10 AM	#14
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: Near Misses Now the FAA has issued a fine on this guy for recklessness. New York Drone Crash Prompts Second FAA Fine for Reckless Flight - Businessweek

June 2nd, 2014, 03:00 PM	#15
John Cash Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 253	Re: Near Misses I was at a little leauge game last month. A foul ball hit my cars rear windshield. You know.........broken window, near miss . a baby could have been in the backseat. Im calling the FAA.