Aspen Aerials

Paul Cronin · September 13th, 2008, 01:39 PM

Thanks Derek I will presue a few options (www.airfoilhelicams.com an www.helivision.eu) we have been working for a while. Thought you might have some new information for us on machines. But I understand if you want to keep your equipment secret. Keep up the great work really enjoy your footage.

Derek Weiss · September 13th, 2008, 06:22 PM

Paul,

It's not really a secret, it's a matter of what kind of camera you intend to carry, it's weight, flight times you require, and your budget.

For 95% of the crowd, an electric heli is the way to go for their overall simplicity. If you need to haul a 35mm or 16mm camera, then a turbine swinging atleast 800mm blades is the best option for it's ability to haul large payloads. Turbines require another level of caution because of their power, weight, and fuel.

I'd stay away from two-stroke powered helis because they are far more difficult to tune for smooth, vibration free video.

Paul Cronin · September 14th, 2008, 10:23 AM

Thanks Derek,

Our payloads are Sony SR12 - Sony XDCAM EX1 with Kenyon gyro. So it sounds like we do not need the Turbine and can go electric. Now to find the best machine. Thanks for the tip on two strokes makes perfect sense dealing with two stroke and four stroke outboards all my life.

Derek Weiss · September 15th, 2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Cronin

Thanks Derek,

Our payloads are Sony SR12 - Sony XDCAM EX1 with Kenyon gyro. So it sounds like we do not need the Turbine and can go electric. Now to find the best machine. Thanks for the tip on two strokes makes perfect sense dealing with two stroke and four stroke outboards all my life.

I fly the EX1 with a very light front mount (2.5 pounds) on a 12s system with 700mm blades. But the ideal heli would be the Maxi Joker or Bergen Observer Electric swinging 800mm blades.

Paul Cronin · September 15th, 2008, 05:13 PM

Both look like great machines. The distributor for the Maxi is just up the road I will contact them tomorrow.

We had a meeting today and our R44 pilot has some time with RC's. Next step is for two of us to get up to speed flying so we have options. We have been flying the Reflex Sim and now are ready to buy a trainer so next spring we can move into the larger machine. Any recommendations on a trainer? Raptor 30 has been recommended but there are just so many options.

This is still the early stages for us and we are enjoying the process. Will be a nice addition to our growing company.

Thank you for your help. If you ever need advice on shooting from a full size machine we have years of experience. Also anything involved in shooting the marine industry since that is our specialty.

Derek Weiss · September 15th, 2008, 07:20 PM

Buy a Trex 600. That way a bunch of the equipment will cross over. For example, chargers, batteries, familiarity with electrics in general.

Paul Cronin · September 16th, 2008, 08:05 AM

I looked up the T-Rex 600 wow a nice machine and a lot of options. My thought would be to go with a fiberglass version knowing composites it would be tougher then the carbon. Much bigger trainer then I was thinking of but makes sense to have a cross over with gear.

I will search for a RTF unit.

Paul Cronin · September 16th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Well found a local shop that sells the TRex 600 Welcome to RCHover - Home . I will visit this week to look at my options.

Ryan Farnes · September 17th, 2008, 01:20 AM

What delightful toys. Er, tools. :-)

September 13th, 2008, 01:39 PM	#16
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Thanks Derek I will presue a few options (www.airfoilhelicams.com an www.helivision.eu) we have been working for a while. Thought you might have some new information for us on machines. But I understand if you want to keep your equipment secret. Keep up the great work really enjoy your footage. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com Last edited by Paul Cronin; September 13th, 2008 at 04:49 PM.

September 14th, 2008, 10:23 AM	#18
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Thanks Derek, Our payloads are Sony SR12 - Sony XDCAM EX1 with Kenyon gyro. So it sounds like we do not need the Turbine and can go electric. Now to find the best machine. Thanks for the tip on two strokes makes perfect sense dealing with two stroke and four stroke outboards all my life. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

September 15th, 2008, 05:13 PM	#20
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Both look like great machines. The distributor for the Maxi is just up the road I will contact them tomorrow. We had a meeting today and our R44 pilot has some time with RC's. Next step is for two of us to get up to speed flying so we have options. We have been flying the Reflex Sim and now are ready to buy a trainer so next spring we can move into the larger machine. Any recommendations on a trainer? Raptor 30 has been recommended but there are just so many options. This is still the early stages for us and we are enjoying the process. Will be a nice addition to our growing company. Thank you for your help. If you ever need advice on shooting from a full size machine we have years of experience. Also anything involved in shooting the marine industry since that is our specialty. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

September 16th, 2008, 08:05 AM	#22
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	I looked up the T-Rex 600 wow a nice machine and a lot of options. My thought would be to go with a fiberglass version knowing composites it would be tougher then the carbon. Much bigger trainer then I was thinking of but makes sense to have a cross over with gear. I will search for a RTF unit. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

September 16th, 2008, 03:56 PM	#23
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Well found a local shop that sells the TRex 600 Welcome to RCHover - Home . I will visit this week to look at my options. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

September 13th, 2008, 06:22 PM	#17
Derek Weiss Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 214	Paul, It's not really a secret, it's a matter of what kind of camera you intend to carry, it's weight, flight times you require, and your budget. For 95% of the crowd, an electric heli is the way to go for their overall simplicity. If you need to haul a 35mm or 16mm camera, then a turbine swinging atleast 800mm blades is the best option for it's ability to haul large payloads. Turbines require another level of caution because of their power, weight, and fuel. I'd stay away from two-stroke powered helis because they are far more difficult to tune for smooth, vibration free video.

September 15th, 2008, 07:20 PM	#21
Derek Weiss Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 214	Buy a Trex 600. That way a bunch of the equipment will cross over. For example, chargers, batteries, familiarity with electrics in general.

September 17th, 2008, 01:20 AM	#24
Ryan Farnes Major Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 220	What delightful toys. Er, tools. :-)