Can anyone help me/see this? Need a web czar! at DVinfo.net

Meryem Ersoz · July 16th, 2005, 09:27 AM

okay, now i'm bummed. dylan e-mailed me saying he couldn't open my link. complete deflation....

so here is my link(s). it is working on my computer's and my brother's.

http://ia108620.us.archive.org/1/ite...llgooddogs.mov

http://www.ourmedia.org/node/29794

can any of you web-literate types explain why this is working for me and not for dylan? does it matter that he is using QT 6.5, and i am using 7.0.1?

Christopher Lefchik · July 16th, 2005, 09:45 AM

Meryem,

You must have used the H.264 MPEG-4 codec, as I tried it on one computer with QT 6.5, and it didn't work, while it played fine on my computer with QT 7.

Mitchell Stookey · July 16th, 2005, 09:56 AM

It worked fine for me. However I also have Quicktime 7. Don't know if this helps.

Meryem Ersoz · July 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM

thanks, guys...i think it is just what i needed to know. i did use the H.264 MPEG-4 codec because it seemed indicated by the final cut pro manual, at least as far as i could discern it--never done a streaming web upload before. FCP 4.5 gives me too many choices!

so now i need to know--what would be the more widely-user-friendly choice of codec to use for this sort of thing? that could be viewed by the widest audience?

DVinfonet to the rescue again! i love this site!

Lorinda Norton · July 16th, 2005, 11:43 AM

Gosh, Meryem, I wouldn't change a thing! I just downloaded the free Quicktime 7 and watched it with no problem.

Ralph Roberts · July 17th, 2005, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

Gosh, Meryem, I wouldn't change a thing! I just downloaded the free Quicktime 7 and watched it with no problem.

Me, too ... looks great!

--Ralph

Meryem Ersoz · July 17th, 2005, 09:26 AM

yes, everyone with QT 7.0 and a Mac can see it, but the problem is that QT 7 for the PC is in beta, so no one with a PC can see it and no one with a Mac running 6.5 or earlier can see it either (including the DV Challenge #2 judges, which is why i am so hung up on this...i can't submit it, if they can't review it). what i need to know is what FCP compression option is most legible to the widest range of systems (so that i don't have to keep re-compressing and uploading)? i'm totally new to web delivery and don't really understand all of these formats and platforms.

Lorinda Norton · July 17th, 2005, 09:47 AM

Hmm...I guess I don't understand. I use a PC and viewed it just fine.

Ralph Roberts · July 17th, 2005, 10:08 AM

My computers are all PCs and have been since 1982 ;-).

But I do have QT 7 ... not sure if its beta or not, but I think its the final release version.

--Ralph

Lorinda Norton · July 17th, 2005, 11:16 AM

I get it now! But if you don't find the answer you need, Mereym, maybe your link could first go to a page that includes this info? (Over in the DV For the Masses forum, we encountered the same issue.) It only takes a few minutes for folks to download/install. And it's free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalani Prince

Here are links for the new codec, it's available for Windows users as well.

MAC: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html

WINDOWS: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

Dan Euritt · July 17th, 2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meryem Ersoz

so now i need to know--what would be the more widely-user-friendly choice of codec to use for this sort of thing? that could be viewed by the widest audience?

that is indeed the bottom line... embedded flash would look decent if you had spent $$$ for the two-pass encoder... but embedded windows media is better quality than that, and it's on nearly as many computers as flash is.

i would not post content that first demands a player download and install before it can be seen... there are upwards of 900 million people on the 'net, so it's gonna be a long time before h.264 becomes significant.

Mike Teutsch · July 17th, 2005, 01:46 PM

I tried to view Meryem's film and was unable to with QT 6.5.2 so I thought, why not download Quicktime 7? So I did and watched the movie.

Turned out that 7 is not compatable with Adobe After Effects 5.5, and each time I started AE, it said it found no compatable version of quicktime and that that function would be disabled!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tried to repair AE, reinstall AE several times, Restore the computer several times and nothing worked. I was really surprised that QT 7 was still there after restoring to a previous date?

Finally ended up deleting QT 7, and AE. Then installed QT 6.5.2, then AE. It finally worked.

Just a hint of caution to those with XP, AE 5.5, and thinking of QT 7. Also, it is probably better to post in an older version of Quicktime!

Thanks all,

Mike

Lorinda Norton · July 17th, 2005, 02:08 PM

Hope you don't mind me smiling, Mike, but I've been following your "misadventures" all weekend. You've really had a time of it!!! Maybe you should take a little vacation and shake off the bad luck that's been following you around. :)

As for Meryem's ordeal, she's probably got it figured out by now, but I only posted the workaround because of the time constraints she faced with the contest. I wish a Mac user would have answered her question about codecs and saved her having to read all of my posts. Sorry, Meryem!

Mike Teutsch · July 17th, 2005, 02:23 PM

Thanks Lorinda,

That was just today. I am relaxing now, watched Tiger win the British Open, and I'm now watching the NASCAR race. If anyone want to visit South Florida, I have a spare room. I would suggest making it in the winter though!

Mike

July 16th, 2005, 09:27 AM	#1
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	Can anyone help me/see this? Need a web czar! okay, now i'm bummed. dylan e-mailed me saying he couldn't open my link. complete deflation.... so here is my link(s). it is working on my computer's and my brother's. http://ia108620.us.archive.org/1/ite...llgooddogs.mov http://www.ourmedia.org/node/29794 can any of you web-literate types explain why this is working for me and not for dylan? does it matter that he is using QT 6.5, and i am using 7.0.1?

July 16th, 2005, 11:43 AM	#5
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Gosh, Meryem, I wouldn't change a thing! I just downloaded the free Quicktime 7 and watched it with no problem. __________________ Lorinda

July 17th, 2005, 09:47 AM	#8
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Hmm...I guess I don't understand. I use a PC and viewed it just fine. __________________ Lorinda

July 17th, 2005, 10:08 AM	#9
Ralph Roberts Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alexander, NC Posts: 188	My computers are all PCs and have been since 1982 ;-). But I do have QT 7 ... not sure if its beta or not, but I think its the final release version. --Ralph __________________ --Ralph Roberts, CEO 1VIDeo / aBOOKS / Creativity, Inc.

July 17th, 2005, 01:46 PM	#12
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Thanks for making me work for two hours! I tried to view Meryem's film and was unable to with QT 6.5.2 so I thought, why not download Quicktime 7? So I did and watched the movie. Turned out that 7 is not compatable with Adobe After Effects 5.5, and each time I started AE, it said it found no compatable version of quicktime and that that function would be disabled!!!!!!!!!!!! I tried to repair AE, reinstall AE several times, Restore the computer several times and nothing worked. I was really surprised that QT 7 was still there after restoring to a previous date? Finally ended up deleting QT 7, and AE. Then installed QT 6.5.2, then AE. It finally worked. Just a hint of caution to those with XP, AE 5.5, and thinking of QT 7. Also, it is probably better to post in an older version of Quicktime! Thanks all, Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

July 16th, 2005, 09:45 AM	#2
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Meryem, You must have used the H.264 MPEG-4 codec, as I tried it on one computer with QT 6.5, and it didn't work, while it played fine on my computer with QT 7. Last edited by Christopher Lefchik; July 16th, 2005 at 09:58 PM.

July 16th, 2005, 09:56 AM	#3
Mitchell Stookey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 196	It worked fine for me. However I also have Quicktime 7. Don't know if this helps.

July 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#4
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	thanks, guys...i think it is just what i needed to know. i did use the H.264 MPEG-4 codec because it seemed indicated by the final cut pro manual, at least as far as i could discern it--never done a streaming web upload before. FCP 4.5 gives me too many choices! so now i need to know--what would be the more widely-user-friendly choice of codec to use for this sort of thing? that could be viewed by the widest audience? DVinfonet to the rescue again! i love this site!

July 17th, 2005, 09:26 AM	#7
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	yes, everyone with QT 7.0 and a Mac can see it, but the problem is that QT 7 for the PC is in beta, so no one with a PC can see it and no one with a Mac running 6.5 or earlier can see it either (including the DV Challenge #2 judges, which is why i am so hung up on this...i can't submit it, if they can't review it). what i need to know is what FCP compression option is most legible to the widest range of systems (so that i don't have to keep re-compressing and uploading)? i'm totally new to web delivery and don't really understand all of these formats and platforms.

July 17th, 2005, 02:08 PM	#13
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Hope you don't mind me smiling, Mike, but I've been following your "misadventures" all weekend. You've really had a time of it!!! Maybe you should take a little vacation and shake off the bad luck that's been following you around. :) As for Meryem's ordeal, she's probably got it figured out by now, but I only posted the workaround because of the time constraints she faced with the contest. I wish a Mac user would have answered her question about codecs and saved her having to read all of my posts. Sorry, Meryem! __________________ Lorinda

July 17th, 2005, 02:23 PM	#14
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Thanks Lorinda, That was just today. I am relaxing now, watched Tiger win the British Open, and I'm now watching the NASCAR race. If anyone want to visit South Florida, I have a spare room. I would suggest making it in the winter though! Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.