Best site for uploading video?

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 12:51 PM

Yours is much less cluttered. I kept having to reframe because of major height differential between lowest and highest explosions. I know some fireworks aficionados would prefer clean (no buildings in background).

I posted my settings on Vimeo, You should too. It'll help folks looking to shoot fireworks.
Yours look very good on Vimeo. I wonder if you could also post on ExposureRoom. That might give us a double comparison for upload sites.

It is possible to "shot for compression" and while Cinegamma 4 with -3db gain looks great for fireworks I'm wondering if the stretched blacks of CG4 opens the door to the artifacts that are more apparent on ExposureRoom. Who know if either Vimeo or ExposureRoom are doing preprocessing on encodes. That can have an impact on picking the "best site."

That's why I'd like to know your settings and see an ExposureRoom comparison.

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Originally Posted by Charles Newcomb

No battle here. The display I posted was a test of the EX3, which with yours should give reassurance to those who worry about rolling shutter and fireworks. I didn't see any in either sample.

Our little display is put on by a volunteer fire department in a Rocky Mountain town (elevation 8,000') of 5,000 people.

The one you shot in NYC is very impressive... probably cost more than our entire county's annual budget.

Charles Newcomb · July 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM

My settings are whatever the ones are in Doug Jensen's recommended Picture Profile... with 1/60th shutter, -3db gain, no ND, 1080p 30fps, 56k WB, iris at 1.9. I rendered to mpg4 in Sony Vegas and to h264 in Compressor, via FCS. I forget which I posted, but they were both identical. I do recall I had to render to 29.97 fps, rather than leaving it at 30fps, because I got some pixelation when I didn't (I know... you'd think it would be the other way around).

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 03:05 PM

So my camera settings are similar to yours. I encoded to H.264 at 2100kbps for Vimeo and 5000kbps for ExposureRoom.

If you can upload yours to Exposure that would be a good comparison since we shot with similar camera settings but it does seem that Vimeo's HD encode is better than ExposureRoom's IMHO.

Erik Phairas · July 6th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Yea your guys stuff always looks so clean and sharp on vimeo and youtube and so forth. Mine will have more artifacts and be twice the filesize..LOL

Amazes and disgusts me all at once, we have the same friggen camera!. :)

Martin Labelle · July 8th, 2009, 07:40 PM

This is from a sony hc-5 with the camera mic, edited with final cut, no deinterlace.
Theres a frame drop in the middle of the clip, don't drop when camera is connect to tv,
but drop when logging in computer
my file(quicktime h264 was 1.95 gig) the upload took 8 hours(on wifi)
I never use compressor but export using quicktime conversion at 1280x720

Since a few weeks youtube let you upload 2 gig files but not more than 10 minutes.

P.s: when you upload big files on youtube, disable the progress bar.

YouTube - jp soars:gangster of love with cigar box guitar! festival jazz montreal. blues en HD fijm

July 6th, 2009, 09:05 PM	#34
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Yea your guys stuff always looks so clean and sharp on vimeo and youtube and so forth. Mine will have more artifacts and be twice the filesize..LOL Amazes and disgusts me all at once, we have the same friggen camera!. :) __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

July 8th, 2009, 07:40 PM	#35
Martin Labelle Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 170	my best quality on youtube This is from a sony hc-5 with the camera mic, edited with final cut, no deinterlace. Theres a frame drop in the middle of the clip, don't drop when camera is connect to tv, but drop when logging in computer my file(quicktime h264 was 1.95 gig) the upload took 8 hours(on wifi) I never use compressor but export using quicktime conversion at 1280x720 Since a few weeks youtube let you upload 2 gig files but not more than 10 minutes. P.s: when you upload big files on youtube, disable the progress bar. YouTube - jp soars:gangster of love with cigar box guitar! festival jazz montreal. blues en HD fijm

July 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM	#32
Charles Newcomb Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salida, Colorado Posts: 561	My settings are whatever the ones are in Doug Jensen's recommended Picture Profile... with 1/60th shutter, -3db gain, no ND, 1080p 30fps, 56k WB, iris at 1.9. I rendered to mpg4 in Sony Vegas and to h264 in Compressor, via FCS. I forget which I posted, but they were both identical. I do recall I had to render to 29.97 fps, rather than leaving it at 30fps, because I got some pixelation when I didn't (I know... you'd think it would be the other way around).

July 6th, 2009, 03:05 PM	#33
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	So my camera settings are similar to yours. I encoded to H.264 at 2100kbps for Vimeo and 5000kbps for ExposureRoom. If you can upload yours to Exposure that would be a good comparison since we shot with similar camera settings but it does seem that Vimeo's HD encode is better than ExposureRoom's IMHO.