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July 4th, 2009, 12:06 AM
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My 2 cents
Best Qualtiy all sizes - Exposure Room - professional networking... low views
Best Public Viewing - Youtube.com - great hd, crummy standard. Best encoding - DVkitchen to minimize file size / maximize quality Vimeo - nice networking with hobbiest. Crappy 'nature' sound... ok hd video. Revver - no HD... snuck in horrible 30 sec "weeds" video ads without telling us... before they had ad words from google after video... stay away!! |
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July 4th, 2009, 06:56 AM
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For reasons I won't go into here, I shot the air show with a combination of 1080/30P, 720/30P, and 720/24P settings. Most slo-mo clips were done at 720/24P 60fps. I used the Picture Profile settings that I describe in my DVD and books, an O'connor 1030B head, and my Fujinon HSs 18x5.5 lens -- but no lens filters. Normally when I shoot outside I use a polarizer and a 1/2 grad .6 ND, but in this type of fast-paced shooting, and where I am shooting at all angles to the sun, there is not time to mess around with adjusting filters. Althougth, it would have been nice to darken the sky and really make the clouds pop with the polarizer. I shot about 2 hours of footage over the course of the day from just one location. I was there with my family, and technically wasn't supposed to be "working" so I never moved around. 2 hours seems like a lot of footage, but the slo-mo clips were recording at 2.5x. As always, I deleted any bad shots on the fly, so I never had to deal with them in post. I've neve been more happy NOT to be shooting on tape. Created an archive copy of all my BPAV folers with Clip Browser, then created MOV versions with XDCAM Transfer -- while using the subclips function to trim off a lot of the heads and tails and other stuff I knew I'd never need for editing. This step also gave me a chance to review the clips and jot down some notes about them. I then imported the MOV files into an FCP bin and edited with 720/30P sequence settings. I boosted the saturation a little bit with the 3-way color corrector filter but that was the only filtering applied. Exported as a full-rez QT movie clip, and then down-converted a copy to H.264 using the settings that Vimeo recommends.
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July 4th, 2009, 07:06 AM
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Good information to have. I'll check out Exposure Room when I get home from my trip.
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July 4th, 2009, 09:51 AM
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Doug, how important do you classify your 18x lens? The one that comes with the EX-3 is not bad, but I am guessing that your Fujinon cost as much as the EX-3 package that included the lens.
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July 4th, 2009, 10:36 AM
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For what it's worth, video hosting is in the works for DV Info Net. We're setting up what we think are some very attractive features and of course it will be free for DV Info Net members. It'll be a pretty big announcement when it's ready to launch.
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July 4th, 2009, 05:13 PM
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Doug, thanks for that airshow shoot info. Like to take this opportunity to also thank you for your dvd. Having shot for over 25 years I was new to non tape and the ex3 and had a shoot three days after it arrived. Used my "vortex media" pp and your advice together with a dm shoulder brace and a tiffen steadystick. Five hours and no fatigue. I couldn't believe how at home I felt with the camera. The viewfinder is the greatest gift to these tired old eyes. Only quirk is the peaking knob which goes from nothing to a flood of blue. Cheers for the support!
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July 5th, 2009, 10:10 AM
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This looks interesting. Unfortunately not much in the way of details but it seems to be based on Amazon S3 "cloud" encoding and serving, pay as you go service. Apparently the cost is file size based and without bandwidth or other data rate, frame size, view limits.
FLV Mate -- put ad-free streaming videos on your web-site, powered by Amazon S3 |
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July 5th, 2009, 10:17 AM
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It will make it so much easier to share information. I guess I will have to wait for intro to get your codec specs. I would love it if there you would publish some .flv or .mov presets that could be used without re-encoding by you. Thanks! |
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July 5th, 2009, 10:39 AM
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The planes against the clouds are very nice. Would love to see the whole F22 rolloer. Bob
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July 5th, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Thanks, Kevin. The look is pristine.
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July 5th, 2009, 02:28 PM
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Best by far, sort out an Amazon S3 account and do your own encoding. Low res previews for your S3 based video can be YouTube etc.
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July 6th, 2009, 07:18 AM
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July 6th, 2009, 11:11 AM
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I just put this on there last night 2009 Salida Fireworks Show on Vimeo I shot it on the EX3 as a test. After having some issues with rolling shutter from flash photographers, I thought the fireworks would come out butt ugly, but as you can see they came out very nice... no trace of rolling shutter. BTW: I used the PP you recommend in your Vortex training DVD, 1/60th, no ND, -3db gain, with the UV filter that's always on. |
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July 6th, 2009, 11:32 AM
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The battle of the fireworks shows.
I don't have Plus (yet) so I had to compress this down to 2100kbps (rather than my preferred 5000kbps) and it still looks great on Vimeo in HD 2009 Macy's NYC Fireworks on the Hudson NYC 4th of July Macy's Fireworks on the Hudson River on Vimeo ExposureRoom has not such limit so I did encode to 5000kbps and upload and I seem to see more encoding artifacts in the "tough" areas such sky and water and smoke even though my source was over twice the data rate of my upload to Vimeo NYC July 4 2009 Fireworks on the Hudson River By Craig Seeman On ExposureRoom I truly expected ExposureRoom to be better. As some people expressed that Exposure looked better I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Quote:
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July 6th, 2009, 12:32 PM
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Our little display is put on by a volunteer fire department in a Rocky Mountain town (elevation 8,000') of 5,000 people. The one you shot in NYC is very impressive... probably cost more than our entire county's annual budget. |
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