Move On2 VP6 codec from Flash 8 Video Encoder to Sorenson Squeeze? at DVinfo.net

Luke Arndt · May 25th, 2008, 11:03 AM

I have Flash 8 Video Encoder and Sorenson Squeeze 4.3.3. I'm compressing videos (AVIs or MOVs) to FLV for the web. I notice that both programs list the On2 VP6 codec and Sorenson Spark, and I've seen that the VP6 codec gives some pretty nice results (rendering at 400kbps, 30fps, 480x360).

Anyway, the VP6 codec included with Squeeze is a trial, evidently, as it puts up a big watermark on every rendered video. I understand you can purchase the full version of VP6 for Squeeze for ~$100.

It seems to me, though, that I already have a version of the VP6 codec, as that's what Flash 8 Video Encoder can use. Is there any way to transfer the codec/license for the codec from Flash 8 to Squeeze?

If not, then is there any way to have custom presets in the Flash Encoder? It's getting to be a hassle to have to select the preset that's closest to the end result and then change the appropriate settings -- video size, keyframes, audio quality -- for each and every video.

So, Number One, is it possible to use this VP6 codec outside of the Flash Encoder? Even if not with Squeeze, are there any other programs which can take advantage of it? And secondly, in the Flash Encoder itself, is there any room for saving my settings? Either changing their preloaded presets or making my own would be a big, big help.

Todd Moore · June 2nd, 2008, 05:32 PM

Over 100 views and no answer?
I too would like to know more about the VP6 codec and also about saving presets.

Luke Arndt · June 2nd, 2008, 06:00 PM

Seems kind of like an obvious thing to do, doesn't it, to have user-customizable presets? I wonder why they're not in the Flash Video Encoder.

I'll make sure to report back here if I learn anything about either the VP6 codec or the presets.

Todd Moore · June 3rd, 2008, 12:32 AM

That would be great as I am only just holding off buying it.

Yeah. Presets would be a welcome.

Luke Arndt · June 3rd, 2008, 12:52 AM

Are you thinking of buying Flash partly for the encoder?

Honestly, I love Flash. I don't know it real well yet, but I'm having a lot of fun following tutorials and figuring out how to do things.

Todd Moore · June 3rd, 2008, 07:43 PM

I'm looking at buying Squeeze 5 for Flash Pro.
Looks like the VP6 plug in comes with it hence the extra $100 price.

Might have to just bite the bullet :(

Luke Arndt · June 3rd, 2008, 08:54 PM

It's really kind of frustrating on two levels! One, I don't know why Flash's encoder doesn't have any sort of modifiable presets. Secondly, I don't know why (as far as I know) other programs can't use this VP6 codec that the Flash Encoder obviously has. Maybe it IS possible, though...

I really like Sorenson Squeeze, but I can't justify spending $100 extra for the codec that I already have in Flash.

May 25th, 2008, 11:03 AM	#1
Luke Arndt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 47	Move On2 VP6 codec from Flash 8 Video Encoder to Sorenson Squeeze? I have Flash 8 Video Encoder and Sorenson Squeeze 4.3.3. I'm compressing videos (AVIs or MOVs) to FLV for the web. I notice that both programs list the On2 VP6 codec and Sorenson Spark, and I've seen that the VP6 codec gives some pretty nice results (rendering at 400kbps, 30fps, 480x360). Anyway, the VP6 codec included with Squeeze is a trial, evidently, as it puts up a big watermark on every rendered video. I understand you can purchase the full version of VP6 for Squeeze for ~$100. It seems to me, though, that I already have a version of the VP6 codec, as that's what Flash 8 Video Encoder can use. Is there any way to transfer the codec/license for the codec from Flash 8 to Squeeze? If not, then is there any way to have custom presets in the Flash Encoder? It's getting to be a hassle to have to select the preset that's closest to the end result and then change the appropriate settings -- video size, keyframes, audio quality -- for each and every video. So, Number One, is it possible to use this VP6 codec outside of the Flash Encoder? Even if not with Squeeze, are there any other programs which can take advantage of it? And secondly, in the Flash Encoder itself, is there any room for saving my settings? Either changing their preloaded presets or making my own would be a big, big help.

June 2nd, 2008, 05:32 PM	#2
Todd Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alstonville Australia Posts: 42	Over 100 views and no answer? I too would like to know more about the VP6 codec and also about saving presets.

June 2nd, 2008, 06:00 PM	#3
Luke Arndt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 47	Seems kind of like an obvious thing to do, doesn't it, to have user-customizable presets? I wonder why they're not in the Flash Video Encoder. I'll make sure to report back here if I learn anything about either the VP6 codec or the presets.

June 3rd, 2008, 12:32 AM	#4
Todd Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alstonville Australia Posts: 42	That would be great as I am only just holding off buying it. Yeah. Presets would be a welcome.

June 3rd, 2008, 12:52 AM	#5
Luke Arndt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 47	Are you thinking of buying Flash partly for the encoder? Honestly, I love Flash. I don't know it real well yet, but I'm having a lot of fun following tutorials and figuring out how to do things.

June 3rd, 2008, 07:43 PM	#6
Todd Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alstonville Australia Posts: 42	I'm looking at buying Squeeze 5 for Flash Pro. Looks like the VP6 plug in comes with it hence the extra $100 price. Might have to just bite the bullet :(

June 3rd, 2008, 08:54 PM	#7
Luke Arndt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 47	It's really kind of frustrating on two levels! One, I don't know why Flash's encoder doesn't have any sort of modifiable presets. Secondly, I don't know why (as far as I know) other programs can't use this VP6 codec that the Flash Encoder obviously has. Maybe it IS possible, though... I really like Sorenson Squeeze, but I can't justify spending $100 extra for the codec that I already have in Flash.