NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2002

Paul Sedillo · December 5th, 2002, 04:31 PM

Jeff,

Thanks for taking the time to post this link. The survey was interesting. Let's hope they take the info into consideration for the next version.

Jeff Donald · December 5th, 2002, 04:34 PM

There is a good tutorial here http://www.lafcpug.org/tutorials.html#anchor5362344 for scanning, Photoshop and preparing work for AE. Don't worry that some of tutorials are for FCP. The chief designer of Premiere designed FCP, so they are very similar.

Jeff

December 5th, 2002, 05:10 PM

Thanks for the link Jeff. I am finally throwing away my copy of Premiere and buying a copy of FCP this week, so the tutorials will be a great help.

Vince Manganello · December 5th, 2002, 08:38 PM

I've done some dialogue voice overs in a sound room and am trying to match them up with the dialogue recorded on set. The v/os were recorded with the mike closer to the actor, and while both audio tracks sound good, the v/os sound, well, closer. I've got FCP 3.0.2. I've messed around with the EQ 3 way and reverb and echo filters, to limited success. Does anybody know any neat tricks? Also, how do I get an audio track that was recorded in stereo to move to one "side," I mean I've got a centered stereo sound and I want it sound like its coming from off camera. I tried the Spread slider but it just swaps the channels and as the sound was recorded pretty much centered it makes little difference. Any ideas? Thanks

David C. Scott · December 6th, 2002, 08:53 AM

I've been trying to learn Final Cut Pro on my own and have had a measure of success but I'd really like to immerse myself in the best instructional program available. Is there a course taught somewhere that is considered the best?

Paul Sedillo · December 6th, 2002, 11:32 AM

You might want to check out DV Creators:

http://www.dvcreators.com

They have some self paced CD's that should help you learn the program. You might also want to check into your local community college.

Bill Markel · December 6th, 2002, 12:57 PM

Vince,

Check out this address. This may help you out.

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/basic_audio_filter_tutoria.html

Good Luck,

Bill

Rick Foxx · December 6th, 2002, 01:59 PM

EQ is your best friend in this scenario. As your subject moves further from the mic, the low frequencies drop off. On your studio tracks, cut your bass and low mid frequencies a little at a time until they match up better with your live dialog. Once the frequency response is closer, you may want to add a small amount of reverb to simulate the acoustics from the shoot.

MIDIMan

Jake Russell · December 6th, 2002, 03:54 PM

The key to encoding is to keep the bitrate as low as possible but keep the pic quality as high as possible. The high end encoders will allow you to do this much better than QTpro. Lower bitrate means higher compatibility, more bandwidth for multiple angles, multiple audio streams etc...

You can only use 3rd party encoders, external writers and DLT drives with dvdsp and not iDVD I believe. Yes the dvdsp encoding will be better using the dvdsp encoder as it's VBR (kinda) and not CBR.

There are afew options for encoding on a mac but many authors switch between pc and mac for various parts of the whole process. QTpro has it's place but I use BitVice http://www.innobits.se/ for mac encoding. Cleaner is a great product but not the best when dealing with mpeg-2. All your options are:

Heuris MPEG Power Professional 2.5 www.heuris.com

Wired MediaPress Pro YUV www.wiredinc.com
Wired MediaPress Pro SDI

Sonic SD-1000 www.sonic.com
Sonic SD-2000

Cleaner www.discreet.com

BitVice www.innobits.se

Others are poping up like http://mediapipe.sourceforge.net/

You can also use a dvd recorder demux and remux. I've got the philips dvdr890 and it seems you can demux and remux with no sync loss issues.

I would have to say that dvdsp with and encoder like BitVice will give you far better quality(and features) than iDVD.

HTH

Jake.

Jeff Donald · December 6th, 2002, 04:42 PM

There may also be a difference in the ambiance of the background sound. When on location I always record a minute or two of silence. Then I mix it with the dialog that gets rerecorded. This give it the same background.

Jeff

Jeff Donald · December 6th, 2002, 09:13 PM

I just got an email from a friend (Apple Tech.) and he confirms that the Superdrive will fit the 667mHz and 800mHz (most recent models). It will also fit the previous models, 550MHz and 667MHz, but will require a different ribbon cable. earlier models are not compatible.

Rumor and speculation is that Apple will not offer an upgrade program. The Superdrive should be available for retrofit in about 4 to 6 months.

Jeff

December 7th, 2002, 01:00 PM

Anyone found any RAID controller cards that do RAID 10 and also work under OS X? I've searched high and low and I can't find a thing. Too many dead drives ... I need both protection and speed so RAID 10 it is. Also interested in people's experiences using the RAID 10 cards if they do, in fact, exist.

thanks

-Aaron

Jeff Donald · December 7th, 2002, 02:34 PM

The few post house that I know that do both RAID 0 and RAID 1 do it separately. The RAID 0 is hardware configured with Sonnet http://www.sonnettech.com/product/default.html , ACard or one of the other hardware cards. The RAID 1 is done in software (included in OS 10.2.X) and separate drives.

Jeff

Vic Owen · December 8th, 2002, 12:13 AM

Another vote for DV Creators stuff -- it's excellent. You should also check out the FCP Intelligent Assistant. It's very informative.

http://www.lafcpug.org/dvd_tuthodgetts_popup.html

Frank Granovski · December 8th, 2002, 01:21 AM

FCP has a lot of great user groups in cities. That might be an option.

December 5th, 2002, 04:31 PM	#1231
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Jeff, Thanks for taking the time to post this link. The survey was interesting. Let's hope they take the info into consideration for the next version. __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

December 5th, 2002, 08:38 PM	#1234
Vince Manganello Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 35	Audio Filters in FCP 3 I've done some dialogue voice overs in a sound room and am trying to match them up with the dialogue recorded on set. The v/os were recorded with the mike closer to the actor, and while both audio tracks sound good, the v/os sound, well, closer. I've got FCP 3.0.2. I've messed around with the EQ 3 way and reverb and echo filters, to limited success. Does anybody know any neat tricks? Also, how do I get an audio track that was recorded in stereo to move to one "side," I mean I've got a centered stereo sound and I want it sound like its coming from off camera. I tried the Spread slider but it just swaps the channels and as the sound was recorded pretty much centered it makes little difference. Any ideas? Thanks

December 6th, 2002, 08:53 AM	#1235
David C. Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 43	Best Final Cut Pro Instruction? I've been trying to learn Final Cut Pro on my own and have had a measure of success but I'd really like to immerse myself in the best instructional program available. Is there a course taught somewhere that is considered the best? __________________ David C. Scott

December 6th, 2002, 11:32 AM	#1236
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	You might want to check out DV Creators: http://www.dvcreators.com They have some self paced CD's that should help you learn the program. You might also want to check into your local community college. __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

December 6th, 2002, 01:59 PM	#1238
Rick Foxx Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tooele, UT Posts: 78	EQ is your best friend in this scenario. As your subject moves further from the mic, the low frequencies drop off. On your studio tracks, cut your bass and low mid frequencies a little at a time until they match up better with your live dialog. Once the frequency response is closer, you may want to add a small amount of reverb to simulate the acoustics from the shoot. MIDIMan __________________ There is no problem so large that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives.

December 5th, 2002, 04:34 PM	#1232
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	There is a good tutorial here http://www.lafcpug.org/tutorials.html#anchor5362344 for scanning, Photoshop and preparing work for AE. Don't worry that some of tutorials are for FCP. The chief designer of Premiere designed FCP, so they are very similar. Jeff

December 5th, 2002, 05:10 PM	#1233
Tess Burke Posts: n/a	Thanks for the link Jeff. I am finally throwing away my copy of Premiere and buying a copy of FCP this week, so the tutorials will be a great help.

December 6th, 2002, 12:57 PM	#1237
Bill Markel Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sicklerville, NJ Posts: 59	Vince, Check out this address. This may help you out. http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/basic_audio_filter_tutoria.html Good Luck, Bill

December 6th, 2002, 03:54 PM	#1239
Jake Russell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 177	The key to encoding is to keep the bitrate as low as possible but keep the pic quality as high as possible. The high end encoders will allow you to do this much better than QTpro. Lower bitrate means higher compatibility, more bandwidth for multiple angles, multiple audio streams etc... You can only use 3rd party encoders, external writers and DLT drives with dvdsp and not iDVD I believe. Yes the dvdsp encoding will be better using the dvdsp encoder as it's VBR (kinda) and not CBR. There are afew options for encoding on a mac but many authors switch between pc and mac for various parts of the whole process. QTpro has it's place but I use BitVice http://www.innobits.se/ for mac encoding. Cleaner is a great product but not the best when dealing with mpeg-2. All your options are: Heuris MPEG Power Professional 2.5 www.heuris.com Wired MediaPress Pro YUV www.wiredinc.com Wired MediaPress Pro SDI Sonic SD-1000 www.sonic.com Sonic SD-2000 Cleaner www.discreet.com BitVice www.innobits.se Others are poping up like http://mediapipe.sourceforge.net/ You can also use a dvd recorder demux and remux. I've got the philips dvdr890 and it seems you can demux and remux with no sync loss issues. I would have to say that dvdsp with and encoder like BitVice will give you far better quality(and features) than iDVD. HTH Jake.

December 6th, 2002, 04:42 PM	#1240
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	There may also be a difference in the ambiance of the background sound. When on location I always record a minute or two of silence. Then I mix it with the dialog that gets rerecorded. This give it the same background. Jeff

December 6th, 2002, 09:13 PM	#1241
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I just got an email from a friend (Apple Tech.) and he confirms that the Superdrive will fit the 667mHz and 800mHz (most recent models). It will also fit the previous models, 550MHz and 667MHz, but will require a different ribbon cable. earlier models are not compatible. Rumor and speculation is that Apple will not offer an upgrade program. The Superdrive should be available for retrofit in about 4 to 6 months. Jeff

December 7th, 2002, 01:00 PM	#1242
Guest Posts: n/a	Hardware RAID 10 in OS X? Anyone found any RAID controller cards that do RAID 10 and also work under OS X? I've searched high and low and I can't find a thing. Too many dead drives ... I need both protection and speed so RAID 10 it is. Also interested in people's experiences using the RAID 10 cards if they do, in fact, exist. thanks -Aaron

December 7th, 2002, 02:34 PM	#1243
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The few post house that I know that do both RAID 0 and RAID 1 do it separately. The RAID 0 is hardware configured with Sonnet http://www.sonnettech.com/product/default.html , ACard or one of the other hardware cards. The RAID 1 is done in software (included in OS 10.2.X) and separate drives. Jeff

December 8th, 2002, 12:13 AM	#1244
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	Another vote for DV Creators stuff -- it's excellent. You should also check out the FCP Intelligent Assistant. It's very informative. http://www.lafcpug.org/dvd_tuthodgetts_popup.html __________________ -- Vic Owen --

December 8th, 2002, 01:21 AM	#1245
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	FCP has a lot of great user groups in cities. That might be an option.