NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2002

Mark Ross · September 26th, 2002, 09:16 AM

I agree. Even if you can't go to 1.5 yet, at least patch it up to the latest version.

Also, this is not a hardware (i.e. burner) issue... it sounds like your Quicktime may need to be updated as this is partially what it used to provide Preview playback.

Bill Furner · September 26th, 2002, 05:10 PM

"DVD Studio Pro requires an Apple-shipped internal DVD-ROM or DVD-R drive in order to use the Preview mode, or to test built projects using the Apple DVD Player application".
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I just copied and pasted this quote above from Apple DVD Pro section.
Does that mean that the DVD ROM Drive has to have a disk in it in order for the "Preview" to work?
Or should I be gleaning the earlier post's tips? I've heard that there are a not a whole lot of new things in 1.5, but the bug issue could be a problem. And for that alone it could fix (1.0) a whole lot of major headaches I guess.

Jeff Donald · September 26th, 2002, 08:19 PM

If you can answer my questions, I can answer yours. Some Macs require certain versions of the DVD player software. Some older laptops need certain hardware to playback or preview. DVD 1.0 is full of bugs. Quicktime version might also be an issue.

Jeff

Bill Furner · September 26th, 2002, 08:38 PM

I downloaded the 2.7 DVD Player that is supposed to be for a G4 with 9.2 OS. But I couldbn't bring it out to open. Maybe I am supposed to put a DVD in it to open it. I just havn't bought DVD yet to test it.

Jeff Donald · September 26th, 2002, 08:51 PM

Can you play DVD's? If so I think you may need to reinstall the OS. You might try deleting the preference files for the DVD player and DVD SP (save copy of the extensions just in case. Your version of QT might be too new. If your using QT 6 I would guarantee it. My best advice is to upgrade to OS X and DVD SP 1.5 What G4 do you have? You might try restaring with extensions set to base (could be extension conflict).

Jeff

Bill Furner · September 26th, 2002, 09:39 PM

I just tried a commercial movie DVD on 9.2 but I get an error message saying:
"Apply Video Player cannot find the software it needs"
I have a G4 400 meg computer with 384 ram.

I couldn't find DVD Player preferences. Did find DVD Pro 1.0 preferences though.

Thanks for the email.

Mark Sloan · September 26th, 2002, 11:22 PM

Yeah, I tried Q Design also and didn't like it. I looked at how some movie trailers were encoded and found that IMA 4:1 seems to work better. As for movie size before rendering, I simply have encoded enough to have a good idea of what the end result will be. I know programs like Cleaner have size previews, but I don't know of any others.

John Locke · September 28th, 2002, 12:09 AM

Does anyone know where I can download a copy of the old black & white 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 countdown footage (the kind that looks like a sonar with numbers on top of it)?

Bill Furner · September 28th, 2002, 09:51 AM

I downloaded the DVD Pro 1.0 + 1.1 + 1.2 updates and added "ATI Recource Manager" in Extensions. Now the Preview works and the DVD Player works in 9.2 :)

Bill Furner · September 28th, 2002, 11:01 AM

Will the Pioneer 104 work with IDVD 2, does it have to be internal. How hard is it to install? Will a mac place like Computerware install it for me.
I read a post were someone tried it and it worked on a IDVD 2 with G4 400 meg computer which is what I have. One store said that it would only work on 500 meg mac computer G4.
The burner cost only $250.00
I guess if it worked it would be compatable with DVD Studio Pro as well as IDVD 2?

Jeff Donald · September 29th, 2002, 07:33 PM

iDVD 2 requires and internal burner. External FireWire etc will not be recognized. I think installation is a breeze, but if you've never opened a computer case before this might not be an ideal first project. The Apple site says any G4 will work with iDVD 2.

Jeff

Bill Furner · September 29th, 2002, 08:36 PM

Jeff, thanks for posting.

Sounds like the Pioneer 104 is a go. I've added ram, pci cards. Plus I have a G4 Tower, so I guess it would be simple. I just am at a loss on how to install a dvd burner, is there any instructions online that I can read. But again it sounds like I can use a G4 and the Pioneer 104 internal burner. At least I think I can get it as an internal burner.

It even sounds like it is the cheapest way to go if one is planning on buying a burner new at $250.00 :)

There seems to be an area for a burner below the dvd rom in the tower.

What do you mean "external firewire would not be regognized"? Do you mean that if I have an external "firewire" hardrive (which I do) it wouldn't recognize it?

Thanks again for posting!

tiletile

Jenn Kramer · September 29th, 2002, 10:39 PM

iDVD won't support external firewire DVD-R drives, but it will support the Pioneer 103 and 104 drives, even if they aren't original Apple-firmware drives. There's an install guide to CDROM form-factor devices here:

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/hival52x/install.html

They also have a driive compatibility database which you can search for reports on specific drives (you'd want DVD-R drives):

http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

Any computer shop that does mac support should be able to put the drive in, it's no biggie.

Jeff Donald · September 30th, 2002, 05:40 AM

I made my own in Photoshop and used a clock wipe effect to do the transitions. I saved it and use it all the time. Actually, it's incorporated with bars, tone and black at the head of the tape.

Jeff

John Kaye · September 30th, 2002, 04:17 PM

hey Jeff,
Can anyone get his hands on your countdown ? I sure could use it :)

September 26th, 2002, 05:10 PM	#842
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	thanks for the posts "DVD Studio Pro requires an Apple-shipped internal DVD-ROM or DVD-R drive in order to use the Preview mode, or to test built projects using the Apple DVD Player application". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I just copied and pasted this quote above from Apple DVD Pro section. Does that mean that the DVD ROM Drive has to have a disk in it in order for the "Preview" to work? Or should I be gleaning the earlier post's tips? I've heard that there are a not a whole lot of new things in 1.5, but the bug issue could be a problem. And for that alone it could fix (1.0) a whole lot of major headaches I guess.

September 26th, 2002, 08:38 PM	#844
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	preview I downloaded the 2.7 DVD Player that is supposed to be for a G4 with 9.2 OS. But I couldbn't bring it out to open. Maybe I am supposed to put a DVD in it to open it. I just havn't bought DVD yet to test it.

September 26th, 2002, 09:39 PM	#846
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	Preview I just tried a commercial movie DVD on 9.2 but I get an error message saying: "Apply Video Player cannot find the software it needs" I have a G4 400 meg computer with 384 ram. I couldn't find DVD Player preferences. Did find DVD Pro 1.0 preferences though. Thanks for the email.

September 28th, 2002, 12:09 AM	#848
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Black&White Countdown Does anyone know where I can download a copy of the old black & white 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 countdown footage (the kind that looks like a sonar with numbers on top of it)? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

September 28th, 2002, 09:51 AM	#849
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	now it works I downloaded the DVD Pro 1.0 + 1.1 + 1.2 updates and added "ATI Recource Manager" in Extensions. Now the Preview works and the DVD Player works in 9.2 :)

September 26th, 2002, 09:16 AM	#841
Mark Ross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 79	I agree. Even if you can't go to 1.5 yet, at least patch it up to the latest version. Also, this is not a hardware (i.e. burner) issue... it sounds like your Quicktime may need to be updated as this is partially what it used to provide Preview playback.

September 26th, 2002, 08:19 PM	#843
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If you can answer my questions, I can answer yours. Some Macs require certain versions of the DVD player software. Some older laptops need certain hardware to playback or preview. DVD 1.0 is full of bugs. Quicktime version might also be an issue. Jeff

September 26th, 2002, 08:51 PM	#845
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Can you play DVD's? If so I think you may need to reinstall the OS. You might try deleting the preference files for the DVD player and DVD SP (save copy of the extensions just in case. Your version of QT might be too new. If your using QT 6 I would guarantee it. My best advice is to upgrade to OS X and DVD SP 1.5 What G4 do you have? You might try restaring with extensions set to base (could be extension conflict). Jeff

September 26th, 2002, 11:22 PM	#847
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Yeah, I tried Q Design also and didn't like it. I looked at how some movie trailers were encoded and found that IMA 4:1 seems to work better. As for movie size before rendering, I simply have encoded enough to have a good idea of what the end result will be. I know programs like Cleaner have size previews, but I don't know of any others.

September 28th, 2002, 11:01 AM	#850
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	internal 104 DVDR Burner + G4 400 meg work in IDVD 2? Will the Pioneer 104 work with IDVD 2, does it have to be internal. How hard is it to install? Will a mac place like Computerware install it for me. I read a post were someone tried it and it worked on a IDVD 2 with G4 400 meg computer which is what I have. One store said that it would only work on 500 meg mac computer G4. The burner cost only $250.00 I guess if it worked it would be compatable with DVD Studio Pro as well as IDVD 2?

September 29th, 2002, 07:33 PM	#851
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	iDVD 2 requires and internal burner. External FireWire etc will not be recognized. I think installation is a breeze, but if you've never opened a computer case before this might not be an ideal first project. The Apple site says any G4 will work with iDVD 2. Jeff

September 29th, 2002, 08:36 PM	#852
Bill Furner Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calif Posts: 46	pioneer 104 and IDVD 2 Jeff, thanks for posting. Sounds like the Pioneer 104 is a go. I've added ram, pci cards. Plus I have a G4 Tower, so I guess it would be simple. I just am at a loss on how to install a dvd burner, is there any instructions online that I can read. But again it sounds like I can use a G4 and the Pioneer 104 internal burner. At least I think I can get it as an internal burner. It even sounds like it is the cheapest way to go if one is planning on buying a burner new at $250.00 :) There seems to be an area for a burner below the dvd rom in the tower. What do you mean "external firewire would not be regognized"? Do you mean that if I have an external "firewire" hardrive (which I do) it wouldn't recognize it? Thanks again for posting! tiletile

September 29th, 2002, 10:39 PM	#853
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	iDVD won't support external firewire DVD-R drives, but it will support the Pioneer 103 and 104 drives, even if they aren't original Apple-firmware drives. There's an install guide to CDROM form-factor devices here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/hival52x/install.html They also have a driive compatibility database which you can search for reports on specific drives (you'd want DVD-R drives): http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso Any computer shop that does mac support should be able to put the drive in, it's no biggie.

September 30th, 2002, 05:40 AM	#854
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I made my own in Photoshop and used a clock wipe effect to do the transitions. I saved it and use it all the time. Actually, it's incorporated with bars, tone and black at the head of the tape. Jeff

September 30th, 2002, 04:17 PM	#855
John Kaye Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 57	hey Jeff, Can anyone get his hands on your countdown ? I sure could use it :)