NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2002

Daniel Berube · August 14th, 2002, 12:25 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Nathan Gifford : Cinestream (EditDV) also has a user group at Discreet. The group is pretty good. Pop me an e-mail tonight and I will send you address.
Nathan Gifford -->>>

The Discreet Discussion Forums appear to be closed - are these the ones that you refer to: http://talk.discreet.com?

I was a big CineStream fan until Media 100 sold out to Discreet. Now CineStream is end-of-lifed, so the value of having discussion forums is great and hopefully we can answer your EditDV questions.

My intial feedaback without knowing more about your setup is that you may have not completely removed all of the components of the previous install, and somehow perhaps the prefs file got damaged. Can't say much more until I know what OS you are running, though.

Edward Troxel · August 14th, 2002, 12:35 PM

This address will get you to the Cinestream forum:

http://talk.discreet.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=cinestream&text_mode=0&lang=english

And it IS still active.

Paul Sedillo · August 14th, 2002, 02:40 PM

I just received this from Apple via email:
------
Go Back to School in Style

The Titanium PowerBook G4 delivers desktop power in a package so portable you can easily take it with you wherever you go. It comes with a wide 15.2-inch (diagonal) display, a complete selection of ways to connect to wired and wireless networks,(1) and a full complement of bundled software you've come to expect from Apple. The PowerBook G4 also doubles as your entertainment center, enabling you to play your favorite DVDs and CDs or chat online with your friends. And for a limited time, you can save up to $380* off the retail price of a PowerBook G4--this includes up to an additional $150 savings on top of the regular Apple Store for Education Individuals discount. Act now, this special back-to-school offer expires September 25, 2002.

-------

Chris Hurd · August 14th, 2002, 03:36 PM

Gee whiz. Combine this with an educational discount on FCP, and that's enough to make me go back to UT to get my Master's!

I've been looking for an excuse for awile now...

;-)

Paul Sedillo · August 14th, 2002, 07:16 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Gee whiz. Combine this with an educational discount on FCP, and that's enough to make me go back to UT to get my Master's!

I've been looking for an excuse for awile now...

;-)
-->>>

That is why I enroll in Houston Community College each year. It allows me to buy cool gear at a greatly reduced price. Plus I get to learn cool things...most of the time. My G4 was at a student rate as was FCP. Very happy with that.

Heck if I had the chance to attend UT's film program, I would jump at it. From what I understand it is one of the best in the country. Did you get your undergrad there? Man Chris Hurd rubbing elbows with Robert Rodriguez!

Jason Bagby · August 14th, 2002, 10:36 PM

dear martin,
mac online db or mac help would be exrtordinarily helpful if i already knew what i was looking for.
i know where my speakers are and how to change my settings,
and what the dock is and how mac is going to make my life one big digital hub, but if you put in 'useful programs and features of osX' it kind of confuses it, and i am only told what the mac wants to tell me, which is that it's new interface is liquid.
. . . great.
thanks for the suggestion tho.

Martin Munthe · August 15th, 2002, 02:06 AM

Jason,

I see what you mean. The Help center is great for lerning basic stuff a manual would treach you though. Like short cuts, scripting etc

I've run OSX for a year now and I've never had to use the UNIX terminal once (happy to say). But it's nice that it's there.

Jeff Donald · August 15th, 2002, 03:08 PM

Bare Feats did a speed test of three 1GHz G4 (new, old and server) http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html The results are interesting and a little surprising.

Jeff

Jeff Donald · August 15th, 2002, 03:35 PM

Here's a few more places that may be of interest.

http://www.atomiclearning.com/freemacosx.shtml
http://www.savagetranscendental.com/OSX.html
http://www.ilenesmachine.com/macos/osxrelease.shtml
http://xicons.macnn.com/
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2001/12/14/terminal_one.html
http://www.bombich.com/
http://projectomega.online.fr/contents/en/php/index.php
http://www.themox.net/?page=jaguar
http://www.macaddict.com/osx/
http://www.aquafiles.com/
www.resexcellence.com

Those should keep you busy for a few days.

Jeff

Daniel Berube · August 15th, 2002, 04:47 PM

Very nice, Jeff! :)

Dan

Daniel Berube · August 15th, 2002, 04:49 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Bare Feats did a speed test of three 1GHz G4 (new, old and server) http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html The results are interesting and a little surprising.
Jeff -->>>

Yes, and if those results are accurate, it is further testimony of the value of the presently soon to be discontinued models. The next rev is going to be the sweet spot for implimenting xServe tech into the G4 desktop line.

Dan

Jeff Donald · August 15th, 2002, 04:54 PM

I hope they run the same tests after Jaguar is released. I'm currious to see if the OS will make a difference.

Jeff

Paul Sedillo · August 15th, 2002, 06:22 PM

Jeff,

Man thank you very much for the assist!

Keith Loh · August 15th, 2002, 10:11 PM

I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go for a FireWire enclosure and then use it to serve up a 120g hard drive. I haven't yet seen a recommendation on an enclosure brand or vendor aside from warning to get one with the Oxford (#?) chipset. Anyone have a favourite?

Ken Tanaka · August 15th, 2002, 10:38 PM

Keith,
That idea has intrigued me also. I've only purchased packaged drives so far. But if I were shopping for an adapter/enclosure I'd sure give WiebeTech a hard look. After purchasing one of their 40Gb bus-powered drives (which kicks serious butt for a bus-powered pocket drive, by the way) I sent them an email with some comments and suggestions for future modifications. Two hours later Jim Wiebe himself responded to my note with a thanks and very kind remarks.

BTW, you might be interested in this BareFeats article from January. It looks at which ATA drive performs the best in a FireWire enclosure/adapter.

http://barefeats.com/fire25.html

August 14th, 2002, 12:25 PM	#586
Daniel Berube Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 91	<<<-- Originally posted by Nathan Gifford : Cinestream (EditDV) also has a user group at Discreet. The group is pretty good. Pop me an e-mail tonight and I will send you address. Nathan Gifford -->>> The Discreet Discussion Forums appear to be closed - are these the ones that you refer to: http://talk.discreet.com? I was a big CineStream fan until Media 100 sold out to Discreet. Now CineStream is end-of-lifed, so the value of having discussion forums is great and hopefully we can answer your EditDV questions. My intial feedaback without knowing more about your setup is that you may have not completely removed all of the components of the previous install, and somehow perhaps the prefs file got damaged. Can't say much more until I know what OS you are running, though. __________________ Daniel Bérubé • BOSFCPUG http://www.bosfcpug.org

August 14th, 2002, 02:40 PM	#588
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Titanium PowerBook G4 - Student Discount I just received this from Apple via email: ------ Go Back to School in Style The Titanium PowerBook G4 delivers desktop power in a package so portable you can easily take it with you wherever you go. It comes with a wide 15.2-inch (diagonal) display, a complete selection of ways to connect to wired and wireless networks,(1) and a full complement of bundled software you've come to expect from Apple. The PowerBook G4 also doubles as your entertainment center, enabling you to play your favorite DVDs and CDs or chat online with your friends. And for a limited time, you can save up to $380* off the retail price of a PowerBook G4--this includes up to an additional $150 savings on top of the regular Apple Store for Education Individuals discount. Act now, this special back-to-school offer expires September 25, 2002. ------- __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

August 14th, 2002, 03:36 PM	#589
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Gee whiz. Combine this with an educational discount on FCP, and that's enough to make me go back to UT to get my Master's! I've been looking for an excuse for awile now... ;-) __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 14th, 2002, 07:16 PM	#590
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : Gee whiz. Combine this with an educational discount on FCP, and that's enough to make me go back to UT to get my Master's! I've been looking for an excuse for awile now... ;-) -->>> That is why I enroll in Houston Community College each year. It allows me to buy cool gear at a greatly reduced price. Plus I get to learn cool things...most of the time. My G4 was at a student rate as was FCP. Very happy with that. Heck if I had the chance to attend UT's film program, I would jump at it. From what I understand it is one of the best in the country. Did you get your undergrad there? Man Chris Hurd rubbing elbows with Robert Rodriguez! __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

August 14th, 2002, 10:36 PM	#591
Jason Bagby Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Longmont CO Posts: 39	mac help feature dear martin, mac online db or mac help would be exrtordinarily helpful if i already knew what i was looking for. i know where my speakers are and how to change my settings, and what the dock is and how mac is going to make my life one big digital hub, but if you put in 'useful programs and features of osX' it kind of confuses it, and i am only told what the mac wants to tell me, which is that it's new interface is liquid. . . . great. thanks for the suggestion tho.

August 14th, 2002, 12:35 PM	#587
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	This address will get you to the Cinestream forum: http://talk.discreet.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=cinestream&text_mode=0&lang=english And it IS still active.

August 15th, 2002, 02:06 AM	#592
Martin Munthe Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 331	Jason, I see what you mean. The Help center is great for lerning basic stuff a manual would treach you though. Like short cuts, scripting etc I've run OSX for a year now and I've never had to use the UNIX terminal once (happy to say). But it's nice that it's there. __________________ Martin Munthe VFX Supervisor/DP/Director

August 15th, 2002, 03:08 PM	#593
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Bare Feats did a speed test of three 1GHz G4 (new, old and server) http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html The results are interesting and a little surprising. Jeff

August 15th, 2002, 03:35 PM	#594
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Here's a few more places that may be of interest. http://www.atomiclearning.com/freemacosx.shtml http://www.savagetranscendental.com/OSX.html http://www.ilenesmachine.com/macos/osxrelease.shtml http://xicons.macnn.com/ http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2001/12/14/terminal_one.html http://www.bombich.com/ http://projectomega.online.fr/contents/en/php/index.php http://www.themox.net/?page=jaguar http://www.macaddict.com/osx/ http://www.aquafiles.com/ www.resexcellence.com Those should keep you busy for a few days. Jeff

August 15th, 2002, 04:47 PM	#595
Daniel Berube Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 91	Sure enough.. Very nice, Jeff! :) Dan

August 15th, 2002, 04:49 PM	#596
Daniel Berube Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 91	Absolutely... <<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : Bare Feats did a speed test of three 1GHz G4 (new, old and server) http://www.barefeats.com/pmddr.html The results are interesting and a little surprising. Jeff -->>> Yes, and if those results are accurate, it is further testimony of the value of the presently soon to be discontinued models. The next rev is going to be the sweet spot for implimenting xServe tech into the G4 desktop line. Dan

August 15th, 2002, 04:54 PM	#597
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I hope they run the same tests after Jaguar is released. I'm currious to see if the OS will make a difference. Jeff

August 15th, 2002, 06:22 PM	#598
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	Jeff, Man thank you very much for the assist! __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

August 15th, 2002, 10:11 PM	#599
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	recommendations on enclosures I'm pretty sure that I'm going to go for a FireWire enclosure and then use it to serve up a 120g hard drive. I haven't yet seen a recommendation on an enclosure brand or vendor aside from warning to get one with the Oxford (#?) chipset. Anyone have a favourite? __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

August 15th, 2002, 10:38 PM	#600
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Keith, That idea has intrigued me also. I've only purchased packaged drives so far. But if I were shopping for an adapter/enclosure I'd sure give WiebeTech a hard look. After purchasing one of their 40Gb bus-powered drives (which kicks serious butt for a bus-powered pocket drive, by the way) I sent them an email with some comments and suggestions for future modifications. Two hours later Jim Wiebe himself responded to my note with a thanks and very kind remarks. BTW, you might be interested in this BareFeats article from January. It looks at which ATA drive performs the best in a FireWire enclosure/adapter. http://barefeats.com/fire25.html __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com