NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2002

Mark Sloan · August 3rd, 2002, 08:44 AM

1 hour 10 minutes should fit, the limit is 90 minutes and it changes on the fly. Oddly, I have been given that same error when there is not enough Hard Disk space left. I was going crazy looking for a 90 minute check box when I just happened to notice I was almost out of disk space. That might be what is wrong.

Jeff Donald · August 3rd, 2002, 08:44 AM

You may be better off looking at a new system. My want list to even run FCP 3 is a minimum of 512mb Ram, and 80gig external FireWire Hard Drive. The OS will need to be updated from 9.0.4 to 9.2.2. The updates are a free download from the Apple site. The G3 processor wil not do Real Time effects and the 15 inch screen is very confining. I really don't think there is much in the way of processor upgrades for iMacs.

Jeff

Jeff Donald · August 3rd, 2002, 08:48 AM

I think it is something like 14 watts, but that spec may have changed with the newer models.

Jeff

August 3rd, 2002, 03:00 PM

Thanks gentlemen for your suggestions. I think the reason might be the 60 minute time limit as I am using version 1. I am waiting for "Jaguar" to be available to upgrade to the next version of iDVD. There is no upgrade for OS 10 (to Jaguar) if I were to buy the old version now. Jaguar will be the same price.

Believe it or not, I have "DVD Pro" which would solve all of my problems but I can't figure it out. The instruction booklet that comes with it has my head spinning. It is not written for those in a hurry to learn... which is why I use iDVD.

If I only had some templates... smile.

thanks again.

Linwood
LBMAESTRO@yahoo.com

Jeff Donald · August 3rd, 2002, 03:43 PM

I think you can find what your looking for here http://www.gnomedigital.com/ Bruce is very knowledgable about DVD SP and DVDs in general. He may have the templates your looking for.

Jeff

Ram Nagarajan · August 3rd, 2002, 10:07 PM

Mark, Jeff, thanks: I'm checking out the Dr.Bott & Griffin Tech sites as I write this.
More from me once I have some kind of an audio solution worked out: I asked about the Apple Pro speakers because the feedback I got was that they were too low-output to be of practical use in editing. [And, damn, but they're expensive! :-) ]
Does anyone have any comments on the choice of the Sony DVE 900 E Video Walkman as a VTR option for editing (playback/print to tape)? It seems to be the lowest cost Mini DV solution for a dedicated VTR - but it might be nice to have a choice of format sometimes. Do the DSR-11 and the DSR -20 play/record DVCAM?
Best,
Ram

Brian McKenna · August 4th, 2002, 01:53 AM

rumour has it, the submarine 'ping' sound = an automatic sound design award.

Ram Nagarajan · August 4th, 2002, 07:56 AM

Oops, to answer my own question, the DSR-11 and DSR-20 do indeed play and record DVCAM, according to their specs. But the DV-D 1000 Sony video walkman seems to be a lot cheaper, with an S-Video and composite throughput to boot.
Can anyone tell me whether the Video Walkman can be used via firewire to connect an external broadcast monitor?
Best,
Ram

August 5th, 2002, 03:11 PM

Here is some info that many may be interested in :

Until a few days ago if you wanted to burn a dvd with your mac the options were expensive.* Buy a mac with a superdrive, or buy an external drive and DVD Studio Pro.* iDVD would not work with an external drive (even the identical pioneer A04 drive) because the enabler was different than that of the superdrive.

On August 2nd Other World Computing started selling the pioneer A04 with the correct enabler for iDVD 2.1 and OSX for $400.* What this means is that for $400 (and a copy of iDVD 2.1) you can be authoring DVD's on your current firewire enabled mac.

Here is the link to a review of the drive and enabler:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/firewire/owc_firewire_dvd_recorder/owc_firewire_dvd-r.html

Hope you find this interesting.

jeffyr

Ralph Keyser · August 5th, 2002, 04:56 PM

Yeah, I read all that latest, greatest stuff coming out of Finland about the hig pass filter :) :)

Seriously, I think he really meant band-pass filter. The description Adrian gave is correct. Telephones, interestingly enough, don't pass anything above about 3Khz or below about 1Khz.

Joe Redifer · August 5th, 2002, 08:51 PM

That's really cool! Thanks for the info. How does one go about downloading iDVD 2.1? Is it a free download somewhere? I was always under the impression that you could only get it with new Macs.

Jeff Donald · August 5th, 2002, 09:05 PM

Well, sort of. iDVD is an upgrade to 2.0 and 2.0 comes with OS X 10.1 etc. I think you can get 2.1 on a CD for 20$ or the download is free. It will come with OS X 10.2 in a few weeks. I would wait until 10.2 in case Apple changes the enabler. They weren't happy about a company bundling A04 with the eMac and shut down that part of their operation.

Jeff

Joe Redifer · August 6th, 2002, 04:11 PM

I have 10.1 (CD) and iDVD didn't come with it, unless I am just looking in the wrong place. Is iDVD OS X only?

Mark Sloan · August 6th, 2002, 05:52 PM

iDVD v2.x is MacOS X only. iDVD versions of 1.x are OS 9 compatible, but can only burn 60 DVDs. My Mac came out before version 2, so I had to buy the $20 CD to get the new version. They only have patches that you can download because they added tutorials to version 2 that take up 400MB of disk space, and this way they make a little money. (at least, this used to be the only way to upgrade to version 2) I don't know if the system disk for OS 10.1 has iDVD on it...

Jeff Donald · August 6th, 2002, 07:03 PM

Joe,

I could have sworn the CD for 10.1 had iDVD on it. I remember deleting it, because I have DVD SP and had no use for it. I'm sure it's part of the pkg. and gets installed with everything else. I'll look for my disc and let you know or maybe somebody else here knows for sure. If you go to the Apple Store the description for the CD says it's an upgrade.

Jeff

August 5th, 2002, 03:11 PM	#459
jeffyr163 Posts: n/a	Pioneer A04 and iDVD Here is some info that many may be interested in : Until a few days ago if you wanted to burn a dvd with your mac the options were expensive.* Buy a mac with a superdrive, or buy an external drive and DVD Studio Pro.* iDVD would not work with an external drive (even the identical pioneer A04 drive) because the enabler was different than that of the superdrive. On August 2nd Other World Computing started selling the pioneer A04 with the correct enabler for iDVD 2.1 and OSX for $400.* What this means is that for $400 (and a copy of iDVD 2.1) you can be authoring DVD's on your current firewire enabled mac. Here is the link to a review of the drive and enabler: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/firewire/owc_firewire_dvd_recorder/owc_firewire_dvd-r.html Hope you find this interesting. jeffyr

August 3rd, 2002, 08:44 AM	#451
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	1 hour 10 minutes should fit, the limit is 90 minutes and it changes on the fly. Oddly, I have been given that same error when there is not enough Hard Disk space left. I was going crazy looking for a 90 minute check box when I just happened to notice I was almost out of disk space. That might be what is wrong.

August 3rd, 2002, 08:44 AM	#452
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	You may be better off looking at a new system. My want list to even run FCP 3 is a minimum of 512mb Ram, and 80gig external FireWire Hard Drive. The OS will need to be updated from 9.0.4 to 9.2.2. The updates are a free download from the Apple site. The G3 processor wil not do Real Time effects and the 15 inch screen is very confining. I really don't think there is much in the way of processor upgrades for iMacs. Jeff

August 3rd, 2002, 08:48 AM	#453
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I think it is something like 14 watts, but that spec may have changed with the newer models. Jeff

August 3rd, 2002, 03:00 PM	#454
lbmaestro Posts: n/a	Thanks gentlemen for your suggestions. I think the reason might be the 60 minute time limit as I am using version 1. I am waiting for "Jaguar" to be available to upgrade to the next version of iDVD. There is no upgrade for OS 10 (to Jaguar) if I were to buy the old version now. Jaguar will be the same price. Believe it or not, I have "DVD Pro" which would solve all of my problems but I can't figure it out. The instruction booklet that comes with it has my head spinning. It is not written for those in a hurry to learn... which is why I use iDVD. If I only had some templates... smile. thanks again. Linwood LBMAESTRO@yahoo.com

August 3rd, 2002, 03:43 PM	#455
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I think you can find what your looking for here http://www.gnomedigital.com/ Bruce is very knowledgable about DVD SP and DVDs in general. He may have the templates your looking for. Jeff

August 3rd, 2002, 10:07 PM	#456
Ram Nagarajan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 107	Mark, Jeff, thanks: I'm checking out the Dr.Bott & Griffin Tech sites as I write this. More from me once I have some kind of an audio solution worked out: I asked about the Apple Pro speakers because the feedback I got was that they were too low-output to be of practical use in editing. [And, damn, but they're expensive! :-) ] Does anyone have any comments on the choice of the Sony DVE 900 E Video Walkman as a VTR option for editing (playback/print to tape)? It seems to be the lowest cost Mini DV solution for a dedicated VTR - but it might be nice to have a choice of format sometimes. Do the DSR-11 and the DSR -20 play/record DVCAM? Best, Ram

August 4th, 2002, 01:53 AM	#457
Brian McKenna Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: canada Posts: 57	rumour has it, the submarine 'ping' sound = an automatic sound design award.

August 4th, 2002, 07:56 AM	#458
Ram Nagarajan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 107	Oops, to answer my own question, the DSR-11 and DSR-20 do indeed play and record DVCAM, according to their specs. But the DV-D 1000 Sony video walkman seems to be a lot cheaper, with an S-Video and composite throughput to boot. Can anyone tell me whether the Video Walkman can be used via firewire to connect an external broadcast monitor? Best, Ram

August 5th, 2002, 04:56 PM	#460
Ralph Keyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico USA Posts: 287	Yeah, I read all that latest, greatest stuff coming out of Finland about the hig pass filter :) :) Seriously, I think he really meant band-pass filter. The description Adrian gave is correct. Telephones, interestingly enough, don't pass anything above about 3Khz or below about 1Khz.

August 5th, 2002, 08:51 PM	#461
Joe Redifer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 290	That's really cool! Thanks for the info. How does one go about downloading iDVD 2.1? Is it a free download somewhere? I was always under the impression that you could only get it with new Macs.

August 5th, 2002, 09:05 PM	#462
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Well, sort of. iDVD is an upgrade to 2.0 and 2.0 comes with OS X 10.1 etc. I think you can get 2.1 on a CD for 20$ or the download is free. It will come with OS X 10.2 in a few weeks. I would wait until 10.2 in case Apple changes the enabler. They weren't happy about a company bundling A04 with the eMac and shut down that part of their operation. Jeff

August 6th, 2002, 04:11 PM	#463
Joe Redifer Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 290	I have 10.1 (CD) and iDVD didn't come with it, unless I am just looking in the wrong place. Is iDVD OS X only?

August 6th, 2002, 05:52 PM	#464
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	iDVD v2.x is MacOS X only. iDVD versions of 1.x are OS 9 compatible, but can only burn 60 DVDs. My Mac came out before version 2, so I had to buy the $20 CD to get the new version. They only have patches that you can download because they added tutorials to version 2 that take up 400MB of disk space, and this way they make a little money. (at least, this used to be the only way to upgrade to version 2) I don't know if the system disk for OS 10.1 has iDVD on it...

August 6th, 2002, 07:03 PM	#465
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Joe, I could have sworn the CD for 10.1 had iDVD on it. I remember deleting it, because I have DVD SP and had no use for it. I'm sure it's part of the pkg. and gets installed with everything else. I'll look for my disc and let you know or maybe somebody else here knows for sure. If you go to the Apple Store the description for the CD says it's an upgrade. Jeff