Does the new Final cut pro 6 supports V1U 24P? at DVinfo.net

Greg Quinn · May 14th, 2007, 02:41 PM

I've done some searching on the forum, but haven't found an unequivocal answer - does anyone know for sure whether one can drop an M2T file into the FCP6 timeline and it will automatically remove the pulldown as Vegas7 does? Or do we still need to use Cinema tools the telecine function?
Thanks
Greg

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 14th, 2007, 02:50 PM

At this point in time, one cannot drop a 24p Sony HDV file on the timeline in FCP and have the pulldown removed.

Greg Quinn · May 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Spotted Eagle

At this point in time, one cannot drop a 24p Sony HDV file on the timeline in FCP and have the pulldown removed.

Douglas
When you say "at this point in time" are you refering to the new version 6 of FCP?

Steve Mullen · May 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM

Despite many public claims by Sony, and those "associated" with Sony, that FCP would support 24p -- Apple has yet publically say anything.

We all hope FCP 6 will bring "support."

Despite the claims Apple doesn't support 24p -- Apple does. The current issue of the HDV@Work Newsletter begins this story of how to -- for both Apple and Avid.

HOW is the other big question of FCP 6? Fix Cinema Tools? AIC support? Native support?

Greg Quinn · May 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM

OK, thanks Steve. I was told that it's meant to be shipping around now, so I guess we'll hear soon.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · May 14th, 2007, 10:59 PM

Apple announced 24p support at NAB 2007, and showed a V1U in one of their presentations although they did not specifically comment on the camcorder. I do believe (perhaps wrongfully) that our own Heath McKnight blogged about the new features.
FCS 2.0 will be shipping soon, but not "about now."
VASST will offer FCS 2.0 training on the day FCS ships.

Farishad Latjuba · May 15th, 2007, 01:51 AM

FCP cannot grab for a pulldown to 24P.
What about PAL version? Will FCP able to get the 25P into its timeline. Since my understanding that 25P is not really a pulldown from the 50i.

I'm using FCP, and the discussion regarding FCP not be able to grab something from V1 have dettered me to buy this product.

Heath McKnight · May 15th, 2007, 08:12 AM

I actually wrote it for VASST.

heath

Greg Quinn · May 15th, 2007, 11:18 AM

I'm a tad surpised that it's not yet known whether FCP6 supports V1U 24P pulldown removal, or that folks in this forum who do know aren't spilling the beans, since the product has already been publicly demo'd/announced.
Greg

Heath McKnight · May 15th, 2007, 11:36 AM

I honestly have no idea, and I was at the NAB event. Apple is always secretive and may have been tweaking other stuff leading up to the release this month. My hope is the removal of the 24p pulldown in the V1u footage, along with perhaps AVCHD support for those with the consumer HD cameras.

heath

ps-I moved this to the Non-Linear Editing on the Mac page, where more eyes can see it.

Steve Mullen · May 15th, 2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

I honestly have no idea, and I was at the NAB event.

Bottom line, there was no anouncement at the Apple Event.

So we have continued claims of support by one person -- yet his claim remains unsupported. Exactly where we have been since last summer.

However, Apple does support 2-3 pulldown removal for FCP editing at 1080p24. I've used it. So I'm not sure why folks keep saying there is NO way to do it.

Steve Benner · May 15th, 2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen

Bottom line, there was no anouncement at the Apple Event.

So we have continued claims of support by one person -- yet his claim remains unsupported. Exactly where we have been since last summer.

However, Apple does support 2-3 pulldown removal for FCP editing at 1080p24. I've used it. So I'm not sure why folks keep saying there is NO way to do it.

From what I understood from the DV article was that the only problem occured when using the Sony in the 24A mode since it always records on an "A" frame. I thought that when in regular 24P Mode the pullown gets removed correctly when selecting the 1080/24P HDV preset?

Heath McKnight · May 15th, 2007, 06:36 PM

As I said in another post, I took a look at my NAB notes and wrote that there was a V1u at their enormous booth. Hmm...

heath

Josh Hayes · October 5th, 2009, 10:18 PM

I'm going to be getting Final Cut Pro 7 soon, and I was curious, did this ever get resolved? I got to briefly look at it on a job site a few days ago and saw a Sony HDV 24P setting now. Does this mean I can finally drag a clip shot on my V1U at 24P and not have to worry about removing the pulldown myself?

Josh Hayes · October 6th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Or is 24PA and capturing ProRess 422 still the best option?

May 14th, 2007, 02:41 PM	#1
Greg Quinn Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 505	Does the new Final cut pro 6 supports V1U 24P? I've done some searching on the forum, but haven't found an unequivocal answer - does anyone know for sure whether one can drop an M2T file into the FCP6 timeline and it will automatically remove the pulldown as Vegas7 does? Or do we still need to use Cinema tools the telecine function? Thanks Greg

May 14th, 2007, 02:50 PM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	At this point in time, one cannot drop a 24p Sony HDV file on the timeline in FCP and have the pulldown removed. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

May 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM	#4
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	Despite many public claims by Sony, and those "associated" with Sony, that FCP would support 24p -- Apple has yet publically say anything. We all hope FCP 6 will bring "support." Despite the claims Apple doesn't support 24p -- Apple does. The current issue of the HDV@Work Newsletter begins this story of how to -- for both Apple and Avid. HOW is the other big question of FCP 6? Fix Cinema Tools? AIC support? Native support? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

May 14th, 2007, 10:59 PM	#6
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Apple announced 24p support at NAB 2007, and showed a V1U in one of their presentations although they did not specifically comment on the camcorder. I do believe (perhaps wrongfully) that our own Heath McKnight blogged about the new features. FCS 2.0 will be shipping soon, but not "about now." VASST will offer FCS 2.0 training on the day FCS ships. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

May 15th, 2007, 08:12 AM	#8
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I actually wrote it for VASST. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#5
Greg Quinn Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 505	OK, thanks Steve. I was told that it's meant to be shipping around now, so I guess we'll hear soon.

May 15th, 2007, 01:51 AM	#7
Farishad Latjuba Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 35	FCP cannot grab for a pulldown to 24P. What about PAL version? Will FCP able to get the 25P into its timeline. Since my understanding that 25P is not really a pulldown from the 50i. I'm using FCP, and the discussion regarding FCP not be able to grab something from V1 have dettered me to buy this product.

May 15th, 2007, 11:18 AM	#9
Greg Quinn Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 505	I'm a tad surpised that it's not yet known whether FCP6 supports V1U 24P pulldown removal, or that folks in this forum who do know aren't spilling the beans, since the product has already been publicly demo'd/announced. Greg

May 15th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#10
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I honestly have no idea, and I was at the NAB event. Apple is always secretive and may have been tweaking other stuff leading up to the release this month. My hope is the removal of the 24p pulldown in the V1u footage, along with perhaps AVCHD support for those with the consumer HD cameras. heath ps-I moved this to the Non-Linear Editing on the Mac page, where more eyes can see it. __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 15th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#13
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	As I said in another post, I took a look at my NAB notes and wrote that there was a V1u at their enormous booth. Hmm... heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 5th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#14
Josh Hayes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posts: 264	Did this ever get resolved I'm going to be getting Final Cut Pro 7 soon, and I was curious, did this ever get resolved? I got to briefly look at it on a job site a few days ago and saw a Sony HDV 24P setting now. Does this mean I can finally drag a clip shot on my V1U at 24P and not have to worry about removing the pulldown myself?

October 6th, 2009, 01:16 AM	#15
Josh Hayes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posts: 264	re: ever get resolved Or is 24PA and capturing ProRess 422 still the best option?