Which Mac Pro conf.? at DVinfo.net

Jim Benton · May 3rd, 2007, 08:42 AM

Well it seems there is several million different ways to configure the new mac pro. I was wondering if anyone has any recomendations? I'll be starting out editing a documentary i've been shooting the last six months. Just trying to spend the minimum here since with this new computer one can easily spend in excess of six grand. I won't be working with so many special effects for the moment. I imagine this would make a difference as to how i decide to configure. Thanks,

Jim

Dick Campbell · May 3rd, 2007, 09:06 AM

If you have to make a $$ choice, go for more RAM vs CPU speed (unless you'll be doing a lot of Long GOP codecs). I got 2GB and I also got the X1900 videocard with 512MB RAM. works great

Kevin Laster · May 3rd, 2007, 11:02 AM

If you are going to really show the Macs stuff, go for a setup with 4GB. Aqua (Mac's OSX GUI) is a RAM hog, and it likes it. A lot.

The Mac Pro I am eye-balling is 2-2.66GHz Processors, 4GB of RAM, 500GB Hard drive, and 2 NVIDIA 7300GT Video cards.

Andrew Kimery · May 3rd, 2007, 12:33 PM

Jim,

I think the two main questions are 1.) What will you be using this for now? and 2.) What will you be using this for down the line?

If you typically get a new machine every two years or so then question two isn't all that relevant and you don't need to worry about long term very much. But if you are the type that keeps a machine until you run it into the ground then future flexibility is more of a consideration.

I'm looking at getting a new machine soon too and I'm flip-floping between getting an "good" machine now (2.66ghz 4-core) and just replacing it w/another "good" machine in 2 years or so getting a "great" machine now (8-core) and replacing it in 4 years or so.

Kevin,
Just out of curiosity, why aren't you getting the ATI Radeon X1900 XT? It's only $100 more than the dual 7300GTs and it's "recommended" for both Color and Motion where as the 7300GTs are only "minimum spec"?

-A

Jim Benton · May 4th, 2007, 11:05 AM

Well, this does help a bit with my decisions on this. Andrew, I wish I could answer this question for myself more clearly, but i'm not 100% on just how i'll be using the computer in the future. i would hope to be editing on regular basis quality documentaries that i've shot, but i could just as easily be editing some weddings also (i hope not!) i think i will go ahead and go for the 4GB ram. Does anyone have any ideas about using external hard drives?
i was told this is a good idea, keeping important footage on an external. Thanks guys.

Bill Davis · May 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM

Jim,

The MacPro's internal drives are mounted on "sleds" that are simple to remove and replace. (Like 1 minute simple!) There's really no need to pay the cost of external power supplies and case electronics if all you want to do is back up data. Just buy an extra drive now and then, pop it in, back up what you like, and then remove that drive and put it on a shelf.

The only situation where external Firewire drives are useful is if you need to work with extra data while you're system is online. Then hot-swapable drives are a marginal benefit - but outside of a high volume operation with jobs coming and going constantly, it's not really important.

For what it's worth.

Jules Ruez · May 30th, 2007, 11:30 AM

I just saw this thread, buy everything from Apple.com bare bones (except for their vid cards). Get the rest, ram, hard drives, etc. from sites like Other World Computing (www.macsales.com), Tiger Direct, New Egg, etc. You'll save a TON. I got 2gig ram, 400gb HDD and a Shuttle Express for $350. You can't come close to that on Apple.com, with or without a tower.

May 3rd, 2007, 08:42 AM	#1
Jim Benton Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: France Posts: 46	Which Mac Pro conf.? Well it seems there is several million different ways to configure the new mac pro. I was wondering if anyone has any recomendations? I'll be starting out editing a documentary i've been shooting the last six months. Just trying to spend the minimum here since with this new computer one can easily spend in excess of six grand. I won't be working with so many special effects for the moment. I imagine this would make a difference as to how i decide to configure. Thanks, Jim

May 3rd, 2007, 09:06 AM	#2
Dick Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 117	Mac Pro If you have to make a $$ choice, go for more RAM vs CPU speed (unless you'll be doing a lot of Long GOP codecs). I got 2GB and I also got the X1900 videocard with 512MB RAM. works great

May 3rd, 2007, 11:02 AM	#3
Kevin Laster New Boot Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 13	If you are going to really show the Macs stuff, go for a setup with 4GB. Aqua (Mac's OSX GUI) is a RAM hog, and it likes it. A lot. The Mac Pro I am eye-balling is 2-2.66GHz Processors, 4GB of RAM, 500GB Hard drive, and 2 NVIDIA 7300GT Video cards.

May 3rd, 2007, 12:33 PM	#4
Andrew Kimery Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	Jim, I think the two main questions are 1.) What will you be using this for now? and 2.) What will you be using this for down the line? If you typically get a new machine every two years or so then question two isn't all that relevant and you don't need to worry about long term very much. But if you are the type that keeps a machine until you run it into the ground then future flexibility is more of a consideration. I'm looking at getting a new machine soon too and I'm flip-floping between getting an "good" machine now (2.66ghz 4-core) and just replacing it w/another "good" machine in 2 years or so getting a "great" machine now (8-core) and replacing it in 4 years or so. Kevin, Just out of curiosity, why aren't you getting the ATI Radeon X1900 XT? It's only $100 more than the dual 7300GTs and it's "recommended" for both Color and Motion where as the 7300GTs are only "minimum spec"? -A

May 4th, 2007, 11:05 AM	#5
Jim Benton Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: France Posts: 46	Well, this does help a bit with my decisions on this. Andrew, I wish I could answer this question for myself more clearly, but i'm not 100% on just how i'll be using the computer in the future. i would hope to be editing on regular basis quality documentaries that i've shot, but i could just as easily be editing some weddings also (i hope not!) i think i will go ahead and go for the 4GB ram. Does anyone have any ideas about using external hard drives? i was told this is a good idea, keeping important footage on an external. Thanks guys.

May 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM	#6
Bill Davis Trustee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ 85260 Posts: 1,538	Jim, The MacPro's internal drives are mounted on "sleds" that are simple to remove and replace. (Like 1 minute simple!) There's really no need to pay the cost of external power supplies and case electronics if all you want to do is back up data. Just buy an extra drive now and then, pop it in, back up what you like, and then remove that drive and put it on a shelf. The only situation where external Firewire drives are useful is if you need to work with extra data while you're system is online. Then hot-swapable drives are a marginal benefit - but outside of a high volume operation with jobs coming and going constantly, it's not really important. For what it's worth.

May 30th, 2007, 11:30 AM	#7
Jules Ruez New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 18	I just saw this thread, buy everything from Apple.com bare bones (except for their vid cards). Get the rest, ram, hard drives, etc. from sites like Other World Computing (www.macsales.com), Tiger Direct, New Egg, etc. You'll save a TON. I got 2gig ram, 400gb HDD and a Shuttle Express for $350. You can't come close to that on Apple.com, with or without a tower.