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Frank Goertzen · May 4th, 2003, 12:43 AM

It's small (200k)
http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/glassfall.avi
Just a test, wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions.

Curtis T. Stoeber · May 4th, 2003, 01:06 AM

Can't view it because it is an AVI and Macs hate AVIs.

Jeff Donald · May 4th, 2003, 04:54 AM

It works fine with OS 10.2.5 and QT 6.2. It viewed directly in Safari.

The cgi looked very nice. The bounce and reflections look very natural. Nice job.

Curtis,
If your on OS X then down load MPlayer, it plays Avi, DivX and ASF without problems. The file can be down loaded by right clicking (if you have a two button mouse) or Control-clicking and then choose Down load Link to Disk from the menu that appears. You can even choose MPlayer to be the default application for those formats so it will auto open and play if you like.

K. Forman · May 4th, 2003, 05:35 AM

Windows Media player had problems with the codec. What did you use to compress it?

Frank Goertzen · May 4th, 2003, 10:23 AM

I used DivX MPEG 4 for compression.

Jeff Donald · May 4th, 2003, 10:29 AM

Are you on a mac or PC?

Jaime Valles · May 4th, 2003, 10:55 AM

Well, the glass pieces look very good. A bit pixellated, but I'm assuming that's just the compression for the web at work. The shadows on the floor are particularly impressive. I think the motion of it all needs a bit of work; the glass seems to bounce way too much. Unless you're going for a slo-mo kind of effect, I think the shattered glass needs to bounce a lot less for it to look less "CG". Otherwise, it looks very good.

Rob Lohman · May 4th, 2003, 03:41 PM

The glass bounces way way too much indeed. I suggest you tape
a real piece of glass breaking to see how it goes. Also I think it
might be interesting (although difficult) to add a bit more
specularity to the pieces and have them reflect their surroundings
a bit (perhaps with HDRI maps?)

Frank Goertzen · May 4th, 2003, 04:06 PM

This is more a test of shadow than motion, real glass have little bounce. I don't know if our film will have a need for cgi glass, thanks for all the suggestions.

May 4th, 2003, 12:43 AM	#1
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	Cgi Review It's small (200k) http://ooturing.psychz.net/temp/glassfall.avi Just a test, wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions. __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 4th, 2003, 04:54 AM	#3
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It works fine with OS 10.2.5 and QT 6.2. It viewed directly in Safari. The cgi looked very nice. The bounce and reflections look very natural. Nice job. Curtis, If your on OS X then down load MPlayer, it plays Avi, DivX and ASF without problems. The file can be down loaded by right clicking (if you have a two button mouse) or Control-clicking and then choose Down load Link to Disk from the menu that appears. You can even choose MPlayer to be the default application for those formats so it will auto open and play if you like. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 4th, 2003, 10:23 AM	#5
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	I used DivX MPEG 4 for compression. __________________ Patiently Waiting

May 4th, 2003, 10:29 AM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Are you on a mac or PC? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 4th, 2003, 03:41 PM	#8
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The glass bounces way way too much indeed. I suggest you tape a real piece of glass breaking to see how it goes. Also I think it might be interesting (although difficult) to add a bit more specularity to the pieces and have them reflect their surroundings a bit (perhaps with HDRI maps?) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 4th, 2003, 01:06 AM	#2
Curtis T. Stoeber Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lakewood Colorado USA Posts: 150	Can't view it because it is an AVI and Macs hate AVIs.

May 4th, 2003, 05:35 AM	#4
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Windows Media player had problems with the codec. What did you use to compress it?

May 4th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#7
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	Well, the glass pieces look very good. A bit pixellated, but I'm assuming that's just the compression for the web at work. The shadows on the floor are particularly impressive. I think the motion of it all needs a bit of work; the glass seems to bounce way too much. Unless you're going for a slo-mo kind of effect, I think the shattered glass needs to bounce a lot less for it to look less "CG". Otherwise, it looks very good.

May 4th, 2003, 04:06 PM	#9
Frank Goertzen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 43	This is more a test of shadow than motion, real glass have little bounce. I don't know if our film will have a need for cgi glass, thanks for all the suggestions. __________________ Patiently Waiting