New G4's coming soon!

Dean Harrington · May 13th, 2003, 07:09 PM

Curtis not Chris. sorry bout that!

Jeff Donald · May 13th, 2003, 10:58 PM

I don't think Curtis was pointing his comments at you Dean. Curtis is not impressed with Apple hardware, to say the least. I think it would be safe to say, he was hoping for higher numbers.

Dean Harrington · May 13th, 2003, 11:07 PM

thanks - just blew off a little steam but you must admit bus speed is a relevant question. I haven't seen anything on that question regarding the new IBM chip. Was hoping someone had an answer!

Jeff Donald · May 13th, 2003, 11:20 PM

None of the rumor sites are in agreement. I've numbers from 200MHz to 450MHz. This is one area that most people don't pay much attention to. It not as glamorous as processor speed. If I see anything, I'll be sure and post it.

Curtis T. Stoeber · May 13th, 2003, 11:50 PM

Yes Dean, Jeff is correct. Sorry.

Hopefully soon I will be impressed. I've seen hype similar to this for past machines and just didn't see much improvement in reality. The difference between my old 450mhz G4 and my new dual 1Ghz G4 is definitely noticable, but not enough to make me say "wow". Just "that's neat". But someday there's gotta be a kickass breakthrough that'll hopefully make me change my mind. I love Apple's software and I would love to see it running on a screamingly fast machine.

Dean Harrington · May 14th, 2003, 06:36 AM

hope something good comes out of this new chip. Curtis is right. The difference between the G4s is not that impressive. Had a good talk with a top chip designer about 4 years ago and that is all he talked about. Back then, he said, the key was the bus speed. I'm inclined to agree with him. Chip power is important but if the tube getting the info to/from the disk to chip to whatever is small, it causes a choke. Of course, there's more to it. Multi-tasking is also a big factor. Well, we'll see.

Jeff Price · May 14th, 2003, 09:45 AM

There is a very detailed report on arstechnica. They claim a front-side bus of around 450 (1/4 of the processor speed) but capable of taking full advantage of the DDR RAM.

Jeff Price · May 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM

In this week's "Businessweek" IBM admits to the 64 bit 970 chips and says that they are compatible with Apple.

May 13th, 2003, 07:09 PM	#16
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	sorry that was..... Curtis not Chris. sorry bout that!

May 13th, 2003, 10:58 PM	#17
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I don't think Curtis was pointing his comments at you Dean. Curtis is not impressed with Apple hardware, to say the least. I think it would be safe to say, he was hoping for higher numbers. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 13th, 2003, 11:07 PM	#18
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Jeff.... thanks - just blew off a little steam but you must admit bus speed is a relevant question. I haven't seen anything on that question regarding the new IBM chip. Was hoping someone had an answer!

May 13th, 2003, 11:20 PM	#19
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	None of the rumor sites are in agreement. I've numbers from 200MHz to 450MHz. This is one area that most people don't pay much attention to. It not as glamorous as processor speed. If I see anything, I'll be sure and post it. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 14th, 2003, 06:36 AM	#21
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	thanks guys.... hope something good comes out of this new chip. Curtis is right. The difference between the G4s is not that impressive. Had a good talk with a top chip designer about 4 years ago and that is all he talked about. Back then, he said, the key was the bus speed. I'm inclined to agree with him. Chip power is important but if the tube getting the info to/from the disk to chip to whatever is small, it causes a choke. Of course, there's more to it. Multi-tasking is also a big factor. Well, we'll see.

May 13th, 2003, 11:50 PM	#20
Curtis T. Stoeber Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lakewood Colorado USA Posts: 150	Yes Dean, Jeff is correct. Sorry. Hopefully soon I will be impressed. I've seen hype similar to this for past machines and just didn't see much improvement in reality. The difference between my old 450mhz G4 and my new dual 1Ghz G4 is definitely noticable, but not enough to make me say "wow". Just "that's neat". But someday there's gotta be a kickass breakthrough that'll hopefully make me change my mind. I love Apple's software and I would love to see it running on a screamingly fast machine.

May 14th, 2003, 09:45 AM	#22
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	There is a very detailed report on arstechnica. They claim a front-side bus of around 450 (1/4 of the processor speed) but capable of taking full advantage of the DDR RAM. __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com

May 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM	#23
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	In this week's "Businessweek" IBM admits to the 64 bit 970 chips and says that they are compatible with Apple. __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com