Got 5.1.4 FCP to edit HD100 but still have to RENDER? at DVinfo.net

Brian Duke · March 24th, 2007, 03:15 AM

I JUST got FCP 5.1.4 and I opened an old file HOPING I wouldn't have to render anymore while editing, but low and behold everytime I move a clip or edit it the dreaded "red line" appears on top indicating that I have to render the clip.

Can anyone solve this mystery for me, as I was told it would edit natively without having to render until final film out.

Thanks

Andy Graham · March 24th, 2007, 03:33 AM

Brian, I had the exact same problem when i first started editing HDV and Tim solved the problem for me. He posted this frame grab of the sequence settings i should be using so maybe it will work for you too.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachmen...1&d=1160092332

Obviously you'll have to change the frame rate to suit what you're using but the general settings should work.

Hope it helps.

Andy.

Scott Jaco · March 24th, 2007, 04:38 AM

If you're getting the red render bar above your clip, your timeline settings are wrong. Try using the appropriate timeline preset for whichever mode you recorded with your HD100.

All recording modes for the HD100 have been natively supported with FCP since last year with FCP 5.1.2 (except HDV 480/60p)

Brian Duke · March 24th, 2007, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Jaco

If you're getting the red render bar above your clip, your timeline settings are wrong. Try using the appropriate timeline preset for whichever mode you recorded with your HD100.

All recording modes for the HD100 have been natively supported with FCP since last year with FCP 5.1.2 (except HDV 480/60p)

How do I change the timeline options? I looked but I didn't see anything where I could change the timeline frame options. It appears my older clips are all 24FPS Quicktime files. Not 23.98fps.

Maybe that is the problem. not sure.

Justin Ferar · March 24th, 2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Duke

How do I change the timeline options? I looked but I didn't see anything where I could change the timeline frame options. It appears my older clips are all 24FPS Quicktime files. Not 23.98fps.

Maybe that is the problem. not sure.

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Brian Duke · March 24th, 2007, 03:01 PM

I did do that. I went to change the "Sequence Presets" under Video/Audio Settings to "HDV 720p24, and then Editing timebase to "24" not 23.98, since my clips appear to be 24p. Quicktime settings are HDV 720p24. I still get the dreaded "red line" aboce the time line.

Not sure why this isn't working.

Tim Dashwood · March 24th, 2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Duke

"HDV 720p24, and then Editing timebase to "24" not 23.98, since my clips appear to be 24p. Quicktime settings are HDV 720p24.

IF you have older clips from pre v5.1.2, they likely aren't HDV anymore, but AIC. Try switching the codec to Apple Intermediate Codec, and then go into Options and set it for 720P. 23.98 or 24 discrepency shouldn't cause a red render bar.

Brian Duke · March 24th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

IF you have older clips from pre v5.1.2, they likely aren't HDV anymore, but AIC. Try switching the codec to Apple Intermediate Codec, and then go into Options and set it for 720P. 23.98 or 24 discrepency shouldn't cause a red render bar.

I think you are right. They were all coverted by Lumiere to AIC. I will try that.

PS, I sent you an email. =)

Duke

March 24th, 2007, 03:15 AM	#1
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	Got 5.1.4 FCP to edit HD100 but still have to RENDER? I JUST got FCP 5.1.4 and I opened an old file HOPING I wouldn't have to render anymore while editing, but low and behold everytime I move a clip or edit it the dreaded "red line" appears on top indicating that I have to render the clip. Can anyone solve this mystery for me, as I was told it would edit natively without having to render until final film out. Thanks __________________ Visit me and my work at www.artofduke.com

March 24th, 2007, 03:33 AM	#2
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	Brian, I had the exact same problem when i first started editing HDV and Tim solved the problem for me. He posted this frame grab of the sequence settings i should be using so maybe it will work for you too. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachmen...1&d=1160092332 Obviously you'll have to change the frame rate to suit what you're using but the general settings should work. Hope it helps. Andy. __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

March 24th, 2007, 03:01 PM	#6
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	I did do that. I went to change the "Sequence Presets" under Video/Audio Settings to "HDV 720p24, and then Editing timebase to "24" not 23.98, since my clips appear to be 24p. Quicktime settings are HDV 720p24. I still get the dreaded "red line" aboce the time line. Not sure why this isn't working. __________________ Visit me and my work at www.artofduke.com Last edited by Brian Duke; March 24th, 2007 at 03:40 PM.

March 24th, 2007, 04:38 AM	#3
Scott Jaco Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 471	If you're getting the red render bar above your clip, your timeline settings are wrong. Try using the appropriate timeline preset for whichever mode you recorded with your HD100. All recording modes for the HD100 have been natively supported with FCP since last year with FCP 5.1.2 (except HDV 480/60p)