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Gary McClurg · March 20th, 2007, 09:24 AM

I'm trying to remember if there is another process where you can take DVX footage and pump it up to HDCAM... instead of using photo zoom or a teranex (bad spelling) box...

I've used the teranex box on another project... I'll give the place a call when they open in a few hours... but is there away... if you use the teranex box to give you a more 16x9 look... if you haven't used the 16x9 adapter for the camera..

We didn't on the last project but it didn't matter because it was suppose to look like a camcorder...

I have Shake but haven't played around with it enough to learn about it yet... I'll have to play around with it some more...

David W. Jones · March 20th, 2007, 11:06 AM

Do it in Compressor.

Gary McClurg · March 20th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Which part David, the 16x9...

Also just thought about the Instant HD from Red Giant...

Sorry its been almost a year until I got back on my Mac... so that I can do things...

Tim Dashwood · March 20th, 2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary McClurg

Which part David, the 16x9...

Also just thought about the Instant HD from Red Giant...

Sorry its been almost a year until I got back on my Mac... so that I can do things...

I tested Instant HD against FCP 5.1's own scale function (Motion Filter Setting) set to "Best" and I really didn't see any difference. Of course FCP 5.1's own scale function rendered much quicker.

You really need to work on progressive SD only though. Interlace up-scaling doesn't work very well in FCP unless you somehow de-interlace it first.

So, if you shot in 24P or 30P, then give FCP5 a try. If you shot 50i or 60i, then your best bet is probably the Teranex.

Gary McClurg · March 20th, 2007, 03:48 PM

It'll be shot 24p... just thinking of doing something... so like to see different ways of doing it... might just go buy me the XLH1 and solve half my problems right there...

Greg Boston · March 20th, 2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary McClurg

It'll be shot 24p... just thinking of doing something... so like to see different ways of doing it... might just go buy me the XLH1 and solve half my problems right there...

Also check out the Resizer plug-in from Digital Anarchy. It does resizing, and excellent de-interlacing functions.

But as Tim says, much better to start with progressive SD footage. Also being native widescreen helps. I bought Resizer to uprez footage from my Canon XL2 that was native 24P and 16:9.

You'll never get SD to look like HD. These plug-ins let you scale the footage up without it looking really blocky and pixelated. You'll get bigger SD footage that's somewhat soft.

-gb-

Gary McClurg · March 20th, 2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Boston

Also check out the Resizer plug-in from Digital Anarchy. It does resizing, and excellent de-interlacing functions.

But as Tim says, much better to start with progressive SD footage. Also being native widescreen helps. I bought Resizer to uprez footage from my Canon XL2 that was native 24P and 16:9.

You'll never get SD to look like HD. These plug-ins let you scale the footage up without it looking really blocky and pixelated. You'll get bigger SD footage that's somewhat soft.

-gb-

Thanks Greg... rather shoot hd or leave as hd then... it'll be progressive... never shot anything that wasn't with my dvx...

just doing a budgeting game... or not really a game... instead of buying the Canon for a project use that money on something etc...

Philip Brubaker · March 20th, 2007, 08:56 PM

As of a few days ago, using an iMac with FCP I've been using since since 10/04, the program has been acting very strange.

For example, I scroll along the timeline to reach the beginning of my movie, and all the audio clips are out of sync with the video. And there is the audio of one clip mismatched with a completely different video clip.

After I go, "Wha?" I scroll away a little to check on another segment. When I go back to the original section, all the video and audio clips are matched up with each other (!!!) It took me awhile to realize I wasn't going crazy and there was something wrong with this program.

Has anybody experienced this before?

Tom Tomkowiak · March 21st, 2007, 05:50 AM

Hi Philip,

Two suggestions:
1. Start a new thread. By piggybacking on the end of this one, you don't stand much of a chance of getting a response.

2. If you haven't already, check out the Apple FCP forum at: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=939. Posting your question there will likely get you many more responses than you might get here.

If you've been using the same version of FCP since '04, that's probably what, FCP 3 or 4 maybe? Something is corrupted -- either the movie file, fcp or the OS. If you have FCP set up to do autosaves, try opening an earlier saved version of the movie file. Sometimes that'll open, so that's a clue that something you did since that version might be causing the problem.

March 20th, 2007, 09:24 AM	#1
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	FCP, DV to HD I'm trying to remember if there is another process where you can take DVX footage and pump it up to HDCAM... instead of using photo zoom or a teranex (bad spelling) box... I've used the teranex box on another project... I'll give the place a call when they open in a few hours... but is there away... if you use the teranex box to give you a more 16x9 look... if you haven't used the 16x9 adapter for the camera.. We didn't on the last project but it didn't matter because it was suppose to look like a camcorder... I have Shake but haven't played around with it enough to learn about it yet... I'll have to play around with it some more...

March 20th, 2007, 08:56 PM	#8
Philip Brubaker New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 23	this is an FCP question As of a few days ago, using an iMac with FCP I've been using since since 10/04, the program has been acting very strange. For example, I scroll along the timeline to reach the beginning of my movie, and all the audio clips are out of sync with the video. And there is the audio of one clip mismatched with a completely different video clip. After I go, "Wha?" I scroll away a little to check on another segment. When I go back to the original section, all the video and audio clips are matched up with each other (!!!) It took me awhile to realize I wasn't going crazy and there was something wrong with this program. Has anybody experienced this before?

March 21st, 2007, 05:50 AM	#9
Tom Tomkowiak Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the NC Crystal Coast Posts: 203	Hi Philip, Two suggestions: 1. Start a new thread. By piggybacking on the end of this one, you don't stand much of a chance of getting a response. 2. If you haven't already, check out the Apple FCP forum at: http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=939. Posting your question there will likely get you many more responses than you might get here. If you've been using the same version of FCP since '04, that's probably what, FCP 3 or 4 maybe? Something is corrupted -- either the movie file, fcp or the OS. If you have FCP set up to do autosaves, try opening an earlier saved version of the movie file. Sometimes that'll open, so that's a clue that something you did since that version might be causing the problem. __________________ Tom T Mac Pro, Final Cut Studio 2, CS2, Merlin, DVRigPro, VX2100s, HV30

March 20th, 2007, 11:06 AM	#2
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Do it in Compressor.

March 20th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#3
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	Which part David, the 16x9... Also just thought about the Instant HD from Red Giant... Sorry its been almost a year until I got back on my Mac... so that I can do things...

March 20th, 2007, 03:48 PM	#5
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	It'll be shot 24p... just thinking of doing something... so like to see different ways of doing it... might just go buy me the XLH1 and solve half my problems right there...