Editing with mice at DVinfo.net

Alden Miller · February 13th, 2007, 02:36 PM

I was wondering, all you mac users, what mouse do you use with editing? It looks like the mighty mouse is a poor choice. A lot of Apps seem to need a 3 button mouse at least.
I saw some of those "gaming" mice available with lotsa buttons.. i was wondering if they could be programmed for use as FCP or Shake hotkeys.

FWIW, I am using (or will be using) a Bella keyboard with the shuttle. I have one for my PC and plan on getting a new one for FCP.

Thanks
Alden

Johan Forssblad · February 13th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Hi Alden,
But to my knowledge the Mighty Mouse has 5 buttons with the small scroll wheel ...
Left and right button (you click on the whole top on the left or right side).
Left side button and a right side button.
Click button on the scroll wheel.
Scroll wheel left-right.
Mouse movement left-right and up-down.
Can't you assign those buttons for your requested functions? /Johan

Tom Vandas · February 13th, 2007, 03:58 PM

Hi Alden, I use the Mighty Mouse for editing, but also use the keyboard extensively. Mighty Mouse has everything I need for FCP, Shake, etc., though I'm sure there are better mice out there.

Edit: almost forgot... just to confirm, Mighty Mouse does have 5 buttons (including the scroll wheel).

Victor Kellar · February 13th, 2007, 04:00 PM

I use the standard Apple mouse with the G-5 and a two-button PC style mouse with the Mini ... the right click is nice to have for other functions but for FCP, DVD Studio Pro, etc I tend to use the keyboard anyway. As I did when I worked in Premiere

Alden Miller · February 13th, 2007, 04:47 PM

Apparently I don't know what I'm talking about. Which isn't uncommon :P I am still in the buy stages of the machine, I was just making sure I had all my ducks in a row. I was under the impression people weren't fans of it.

William Hohauser · February 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM

Mighty Mouse is an excellent tool for editing. Just the scroll ball alone helps immensely. I've been through a number of different input devices for FCP (Kensington track balls, Contour Designs jog/shuttle, etc.) and the Mighty Mouse is the one I am happiest with. That and the zCover keyboard protector for FCP.

Just keep you hands clean and the Mighty Mouse will give you months of trouble free service.

Michael Westphal · February 13th, 2007, 09:57 PM

I have used a shuttle pro since they were released. I can edit without it, but the shuttle pro makes editing so much easier. I recently got a Mac Pro with the Mighty Mouse. The scroll ball alone makes it sooo effortless to scroll the timeline or through footage. Point to a window and scroll. Kewl.
I now have trouble editing on my other Macs without the Mighty Mouse.
I had beem planning to get a second Shuttle Pro. Now, I'll probably get another Mighty Mouse.

Jeff Mack · February 14th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Westphal

I had beem planning to get a second Shuttle Pro. Now, I'll probably get another Mighty Mouse.

Michael,

I just switched to MAC from PC where I used the heck out of my shuttlepro. Now I find that you have to switch between settings for viewer, canvas and timeline. Is that right? Or can you assign the buttons for where you want to use them. If I think I know how it works with FCP, you have to switch settings from area to area.

Jeff

Jonathan Poritsky · February 14th, 2007, 02:33 PM

I LOVE the Mighty Mouse, once I turn off all those extra buttons! Being a tried and true mac guy I have trouble getting used to two button functionality again, I'm just that used to ctrl-click. And anyway, the right click option is just plain clunky in the MM. But scrolling through my footage with that wheel (without having to let go and hit the shuttle pro is SWEET!

Anyway, I've enjoyed working with a wacom intuos 3 tablet for the past few months. It makes editing so much easier, and of course it's invaluable when doing some graphics work in Photoshop or Illustrator. What's nice about the new tablets is that they have programmable buttons and sliders on the sides. the one I have, 6x11, comes with 10 buttons and 2 sliders total. I have it set to jump through footage, play, fullscreen, a whole bunch of those interface things you need all the time.

On the pen, I have my button set to arrow and blade, and the eraser is the same as pressing delete. One slider is set to jog through my timeline, while the other is set to zoom in and out. The point is, I can't say enough about getting away from the mouse and into a tablet. But if you need a mouse, don't hate on the MM, just configure it to your liking.

Alden Miller · February 14th, 2007, 11:00 PM

speaking of those tablets. A editor that was teaching a seminar was saying how she couldn't live without it. I see how it is used in photoshop and such, but how is it used in FCP? do you just use the pen on the tablet to move your cursor and such?

Jonathan Poritsky · February 15th, 2007, 08:56 AM

Read the previous post on this thread left by yours truly. My configuration is all spelled out sir. And if that still just doesn't say it, well then I guess someone will make a trip to the Wacom store and see what all the fun is about.

February 13th, 2007, 02:36 PM	#1
Alden Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 92	Editing with mice I was wondering, all you mac users, what mouse do you use with editing? It looks like the mighty mouse is a poor choice. A lot of Apps seem to need a 3 button mouse at least. I saw some of those "gaming" mice available with lotsa buttons.. i was wondering if they could be programmed for use as FCP or Shake hotkeys. FWIW, I am using (or will be using) a Bella keyboard with the shuttle. I have one for my PC and plan on getting a new one for FCP. Thanks Alden

February 13th, 2007, 03:04 PM	#2
Johan Forssblad Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vittsjö, SKÅNE, SWEDEN Posts: 266	Mighty Mouse has more functions than it looks like Hi Alden, But to my knowledge the Mighty Mouse has 5 buttons with the small scroll wheel ... Left and right button (you click on the whole top on the left or right side). Left side button and a right side button. Click button on the scroll wheel. Scroll wheel left-right. Mouse movement left-right and up-down. Can't you assign those buttons for your requested functions? /Johan

February 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM	#6
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Mighty Mouse is an excellent tool for editing. Just the scroll ball alone helps immensely. I've been through a number of different input devices for FCP (Kensington track balls, Contour Designs jog/shuttle, etc.) and the Mighty Mouse is the one I am happiest with. That and the zCover keyboard protector for FCP. Just keep you hands clean and the Mighty Mouse will give you months of trouble free service. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

February 13th, 2007, 09:57 PM	#7
Michael Westphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 166	Here it comes to save the day... I have used a shuttle pro since they were released. I can edit without it, but the shuttle pro makes editing so much easier. I recently got a Mac Pro with the Mighty Mouse. The scroll ball alone makes it sooo effortless to scroll the timeline or through footage. Point to a window and scroll. Kewl. I now have trouble editing on my other Macs without the Mighty Mouse. I had beem planning to get a second Shuttle Pro. Now, I'll probably get another Mighty Mouse. __________________ Michael A Westphal

February 14th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#9
Jonathan Poritsky Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 51	Two Words: Intuos-Three I LOVE the Mighty Mouse, once I turn off all those extra buttons! Being a tried and true mac guy I have trouble getting used to two button functionality again, I'm just that used to ctrl-click. And anyway, the right click option is just plain clunky in the MM. But scrolling through my footage with that wheel (without having to let go and hit the shuttle pro is SWEET! Anyway, I've enjoyed working with a wacom intuos 3 tablet for the past few months. It makes editing so much easier, and of course it's invaluable when doing some graphics work in Photoshop or Illustrator. What's nice about the new tablets is that they have programmable buttons and sliders on the sides. the one I have, 6x11, comes with 10 buttons and 2 sliders total. I have it set to jump through footage, play, fullscreen, a whole bunch of those interface things you need all the time. On the pen, I have my button set to arrow and blade, and the eraser is the same as pressing delete. One slider is set to jog through my timeline, while the other is set to zoom in and out. The point is, I can't say enough about getting away from the mouse and into a tablet. But if you need a mouse, don't hate on the MM, just configure it to your liking.

February 13th, 2007, 03:58 PM	#3
Tom Vandas Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: currently in Kigali, Rwanda Posts: 144	Hi Alden, I use the Mighty Mouse for editing, but also use the keyboard extensively. Mighty Mouse has everything I need for FCP, Shake, etc., though I'm sure there are better mice out there. Edit: almost forgot... just to confirm, Mighty Mouse does have 5 buttons (including the scroll wheel).

February 13th, 2007, 04:00 PM	#4
Victor Kellar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 239	I use the standard Apple mouse with the G-5 and a two-button PC style mouse with the Mini ... the right click is nice to have for other functions but for FCP, DVD Studio Pro, etc I tend to use the keyboard anyway. As I did when I worked in Premiere

February 13th, 2007, 04:47 PM	#5
Alden Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 92	Apparently I don't know what I'm talking about. Which isn't uncommon :P I am still in the buy stages of the machine, I was just making sure I had all my ducks in a row. I was under the impression people weren't fans of it.

February 14th, 2007, 11:00 PM	#10
Alden Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 92	speaking of those tablets. A editor that was teaching a seminar was saying how she couldn't live without it. I see how it is used in photoshop and such, but how is it used in FCP? do you just use the pen on the tablet to move your cursor and such?

February 15th, 2007, 08:56 AM	#11
Jonathan Poritsky Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 51	Read the previous post on this thread left by yours truly. My configuration is all spelled out sir. And if that still just doesn't say it, well then I guess someone will make a trip to the Wacom store and see what all the fun is about.