Help, can't find a card to work for external grading monitor?

Nigel Cooper · October 14th, 2006, 11:28 AM

I agree, GY-HD111 is a great camera for the money. I never though I'd run into this post issue though with colour grading monitors and no card manufacturers supporting 720p/25p.

Trevor Allin · October 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM

Yep

HDV has proved to be difficult, but then most new things are for a while atleast I suppose.

Don't know if your going down the TV or the monitor route but I found some very reasonably priced SD monitors at HPreston media:

www.videokit.co.uk/cgi-bin/store1/commerce.cgi?product=MONITORS!JVC&pid=13.htm#

I don't know much about monitors be glad to know if you think its any good.

Trevor

Nigel Cooper · October 14th, 2006, 12:11 PM

Yes, that is a decent SD monitor and is not too dissimilar to the JVC one I have at the moment.

Fernando Hermoso · October 14th, 2006, 11:33 PM

Hello

I have he himself problem exactly, work in Europe, and since Apple removed the update for 720p/25 I cannot monitorizar my video in a JVC of 17 ", I sent a mail to blackmagic and this is what they answered to me:

"Hi Fernando, Thanks for the email. Since Apple has implemented support for 720p25, we will also look into supporting it. However, I don't have a date to provide when this is going to happen"

Let us hope that they make the update as soon as possible, for my also is already fundamental to be able to correct the material with monitor TRC. greetings.

Nigel Cooper · October 19th, 2006, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergio Barbosa

I use the Apple DVI to Video adapter for monitoring 720p25 on a regular TV set. The TV works as second display on the mac, being that you can calibrate it just like your primary display (gamma,colour,etc...).

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...nMore=M9267G/A

Sergio, I bought one of these and tried it, but can't get the settings to work. Nothing on external monitor and in FCP if I chose Cine main display, the Apple screen goes black and there is nothing on external monitor?

What exactly are your settings across the system?

Sergio Barbosa · October 19th, 2006, 11:20 AM

Hello Nigel,

First of all, after connecting the adapter, go to the ''Displays'' panel on the system preferences, and press ''Detect Displays''. Your screen should flash for a second and then you background picture should appear on the TV.

Now check the first 2 pictures I attached, which show how I have it configured on the system preferences.

On Final Cut... See the 3rd picture...
First, click ''refresh A/V devices
Second, in Video Playback, select the same as me
Third, on External Video, select ''All frames''

Basically that's it... let me know how you're doing.

Good luck,
Sergio

Nigel Cooper · October 19th, 2006, 04:52 PM

When I click ''Detect Displays'' nothing happens?

Sergio Barbosa · October 20th, 2006, 02:05 AM

Well...

Make sure that DVI port you're using the adapter with, is working correctly - try switching you primary display on to that port, and the video monitor to the other one.

Only having the adapter plugged in should be enough to make the computer detect another display.

Nigel Cooper · October 20th, 2006, 02:14 AM

If I switch my display to other DVI it works just fine. Still can't have both at same time though. If I plug adaptor in whilst computer is on, screen goes off briefly, then comes back on, but has not found adaptor?

Sergio Barbosa · October 20th, 2006, 02:42 AM

have you clicked ''gather windows'' ?

Nigel Cooper · October 20th, 2006, 02:52 AM

I assume you mean "Dedect Displays" in system prefs?, if so yes, when I do that, there is a brief pause, but then nothing, same as before.

Could it be a faulty adaptor?

I can't see anything in system prefs that says Gather Windows?

Sergio Barbosa · October 20th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Just below the button ''detect displays'', there's the one that says ''gather windows'' (as you can see on my fisrt screenshot from yesterday)...
By pressing that button, the preference windows from both displays, show up on you primari display.

Nigel Cooper · October 20th, 2006, 03:05 AM

I don't have a Gather Windows option anywhere there; weired?

However, I do have a BlackMagic HD Extreme card fitted, but even when I remove it there is still no Gather Windows option anywhere to be seen.

Sergio Barbosa · October 20th, 2006, 03:15 AM

I don't know what else to say... perhaps the adapter is faulty!

Nigel Cooper · October 20th, 2006, 03:23 AM

I don't have a Gather Windows option anywhere there; weired?

However, I do have a BlackMagic HD Extreme card fitted, but even when I remove it there is still no Gather Windows option anywhere to be seen.

October 14th, 2006, 11:33 PM	#19
Fernando Hermoso New Boot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cordoba-Spain- Posts: 24	in external monitor. Hello I have he himself problem exactly, work in Europe, and since Apple removed the update for 720p/25 I cannot monitorizar my video in a JVC of 17 ", I sent a mail to blackmagic and this is what they answered to me: "Hi Fernando, Thanks for the email. Since Apple has implemented support for 720p25, we will also look into supporting it. However, I don't have a date to provide when this is going to happen" Let us hope that they make the update as soon as possible, for my also is already fundamental to be able to correct the material with monitor TRC. greetings.

October 19th, 2006, 11:20 AM	#21
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	Hello Nigel, First of all, after connecting the adapter, go to the ''Displays'' panel on the system preferences, and press ''Detect Displays''. Your screen should flash for a second and then you background picture should appear on the TV. Now check the first 2 pictures I attached, which show how I have it configured on the system preferences. On Final Cut... See the 3rd picture... First, click ''refresh A/V devices Second, in Video Playback, select the same as me Third, on External Video, select ''All frames'' Basically that's it... let me know how you're doing. Good luck, Sergio Attached Thumbnails

October 14th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#16
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	I agree, GY-HD111 is a great camera for the money. I never though I'd run into this post issue though with colour grading monitors and no card manufacturers supporting 720p/25p.

October 14th, 2006, 11:39 AM	#17
Trevor Allin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152	Yep HDV has proved to be difficult, but then most new things are for a while atleast I suppose. Don't know if your going down the TV or the monitor route but I found some very reasonably priced SD monitors at HPreston media: www.videokit.co.uk/cgi-bin/store1/commerce.cgi?product=MONITORS!JVC&pid=13.htm# I don't know much about monitors be glad to know if you think its any good. Trevor

October 14th, 2006, 12:11 PM	#18
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	Yes, that is a decent SD monitor and is not too dissimilar to the JVC one I have at the moment.

October 19th, 2006, 04:52 PM	#22
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	When I click ''Detect Displays'' nothing happens?

October 20th, 2006, 02:05 AM	#23
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	Well... Make sure that DVI port you're using the adapter with, is working correctly - try switching you primary display on to that port, and the video monitor to the other one. Only having the adapter plugged in should be enough to make the computer detect another display.

October 20th, 2006, 02:14 AM	#24
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	If I switch my display to other DVI it works just fine. Still can't have both at same time though. If I plug adaptor in whilst computer is on, screen goes off briefly, then comes back on, but has not found adaptor?

October 20th, 2006, 02:42 AM	#25
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	have you clicked ''gather windows'' ?

October 20th, 2006, 02:52 AM	#26
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	I assume you mean "Dedect Displays" in system prefs?, if so yes, when I do that, there is a brief pause, but then nothing, same as before. Could it be a faulty adaptor? I can't see anything in system prefs that says Gather Windows?

October 20th, 2006, 02:58 AM	#27
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	Just below the button ''detect displays'', there's the one that says ''gather windows'' (as you can see on my fisrt screenshot from yesterday)... By pressing that button, the preference windows from both displays, show up on you primari display.

October 20th, 2006, 03:05 AM	#28
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	I don't have a Gather Windows option anywhere there; weired? However, I do have a BlackMagic HD Extreme card fitted, but even when I remove it there is still no Gather Windows option anywhere to be seen.

October 20th, 2006, 03:15 AM	#29
Sergio Barbosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 140	I don't know what else to say... perhaps the adapter is faulty!

October 20th, 2006, 03:23 AM	#30
Nigel Cooper Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 112	I don't have a Gather Windows option anywhere there; weired? However, I do have a BlackMagic HD Extreme card fitted, but even when I remove it there is still no Gather Windows option anywhere to be seen.