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Cal Thorpe · September 2nd, 2006, 01:15 PM

I've got one clip 24p and one clip 30p and I want them in the same scene. When I put the 30p into my 24p timeline I get super stutter. Does anyone have a good solution to keep them looking good but have them together in the same scene? Thanks!

Nate Weaver · September 2nd, 2006, 01:19 PM

30p converts to 24p very lousily. The best common denominator between the two is a 29.97 timeline.

You can put a 24p clip in a 29.97 timeline, but it will need rendering. You can run the 24p clip through After Effects to add proper pulldown, and then bring in...

This is why FCP needs multiple format support in a single timeline, pronto.

Cal Thorpe · September 2nd, 2006, 01:33 PM

Thanks for the response Nate! Unfortunately I don't have AE. Is there any way I get get that pulldown without going through AE? Would Cinema Tools be able to help me out here? Or is it going to throw my audio out of sync?

Chris Chang · September 2nd, 2006, 02:01 PM

i figure just drop the 24fps into your 30fps timeline. let fcp decide on the pulldown. as much as i don't trust FCP with that kinda thing, 24-> 30 fps is pretty braindead. just make sure you know what pulldown pattern you're applying. There should be 2's and 3's and :'s OH MY!

Nate Weaver · September 2nd, 2006, 02:03 PM

It used to be that FCP would just repeat every 4th frame to bring things up to 30fps. That's ok as a RT solution, but not what I want when I'm doing a final output.

I haven't tried it in a long time, since QT6, so maybe they've fixed that by now. I know QT7 is much, much smarter when it comes to conversions now in certain situations.

September 2nd, 2006, 01:15 PM	#1
Cal Thorpe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: United States Posts: 31	2 different FPS I've got one clip 24p and one clip 30p and I want them in the same scene. When I put the 30p into my 24p timeline I get super stutter. Does anyone have a good solution to keep them looking good but have them together in the same scene? Thanks!

September 2nd, 2006, 01:19 PM	#2
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	30p converts to 24p very lousily. The best common denominator between the two is a 29.97 timeline. You can put a 24p clip in a 29.97 timeline, but it will need rendering. You can run the 24p clip through After Effects to add proper pulldown, and then bring in... This is why FCP needs multiple format support in a single timeline, pronto. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

September 2nd, 2006, 02:03 PM	#5
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	It used to be that FCP would just repeat every 4th frame to bring things up to 30fps. That's ok as a RT solution, but not what I want when I'm doing a final output. I haven't tried it in a long time, since QT6, so maybe they've fixed that by now. I know QT7 is much, much smarter when it comes to conversions now in certain situations. __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

September 2nd, 2006, 01:33 PM	#3
Cal Thorpe Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: United States Posts: 31	Thanks for the response Nate! Unfortunately I don't have AE. Is there any way I get get that pulldown without going through AE? Would Cinema Tools be able to help me out here? Or is it going to throw my audio out of sync?

September 2nd, 2006, 02:01 PM	#4
Chris Chang New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: aTx Posts: 15	i figure just drop the 24fps into your 30fps timeline. let fcp decide on the pulldown. as much as i don't trust FCP with that kinda thing, 24-> 30 fps is pretty braindead. just make sure you know what pulldown pattern you're applying. There should be 2's and 3's and :'s OH MY!