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Aric Mannion · May 27th, 2006, 09:50 AM

Any suggestions or warnings for firewire drives? I have a medium size 1.5ghz powerbook with 2 gigs sdram. For use with Sony HDV and Finalcut 5... I think.
I have a porsche which works fine, but it has bad reviews lately. Is Lacie better? Please share you experiences.

Ron Pfister · May 27th, 2006, 10:46 AM

You might want to take a look here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=68082

HTH,

Ron

Harry Bromley-Davenport · May 27th, 2006, 04:28 PM

Get G Tech.

http://www.g-technology.com/

Best

Harry.

David Tamés · May 31st, 2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Bromley-Davenport

Get G Tech. http://www.g-technology.com/ [...]

G Tech drives are elegant and cost effective.

You may also want to consider the LaCie d2 Triple Interface Drives (FW400, FW800, and USB2.0) as they are handy if you're going to move between multiple computers and they each have different interfaces. I've used these for both editing and field capture, and have had no serious problem with them, though they do run hotter to the touch than I'd like, something about quiet vs fan the LaCie people tell me, I think I'd rather hear the fan and know the drive is as cool as can be.

Gary Bettan · May 31st, 2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Bromley-Davenport

Get G Tech.
http://www.g-technology.com/

G-Tech all the way. Not only are they fast and sexy, they're reliable as well.

G-Raid's unique design, performance and price make this a must have with every editing system. The streamlined case with smooth rounded edges is clearly inspired by Apple, but both PC and Mac lovers will agree… it looks great. But, don't let that cool exterior fool you. G-Raids are packed with enough performance to please most video editors. Each unit includes two 7200 RPM drives, pre-configured as a RAID-0 stripe for maximum throughput. Attach them to a FireWire800 port and you'll be able to run multiple streams of DV or even HDV footage. We even have folks running a couple of streams of uncompressed video off a single G-Raid!

One of the most important factors to consider when purchasing external storage is reliability and sustained performance. When you are editing for hours at a time, your drives are constantly pushing through huge chunks of data. The result of all this activity is heat - the enemy of any hard drive. As the drive heats up, performance drops and if left unchecked, the drive will eventually fail. Each G-Raid has a built-in cooling system that includes a fan and a cooling channel that keeps your G-Raid from heating up – no matter how hard you push it. This is a key factor in maintaining the performance and stability needed for digital content creation.

Gary

Philip Gioja · May 31st, 2006, 04:28 PM

I have a Lacie 320 gig drive and like it a lot. I've been using it for a year and a half now, and haven't experienced any issues with it.

Before the Lacie I had a couple of just your normal 7200 IBM drives in firewire housing units, and didn't like those very well -- one of them had trouble being recognized sometimes and sometimes would pop up fine but I'd have trouble rendering and capturing to it for some reason. I finally chucked the housings for those drives, installed them internally in my Mac, and bought the Lacie for my external drive. Happy ending...

Duane Smith · May 31st, 2006, 06:43 PM

I now exclusively use Mercury Elite Pro external FireWire hard drives from OWC because of the 100% reliability of the Oxford chipsets, but I've used drives from G Tech, Lacie, and Granite Digital in the past with no problems whatsoever. I think you'd be good with any of those brands.

I will recommend that you avoid some of the more 'mass-marketed' drives from brands such as Western Digital, Maxtor, Segate, etc. They all make fine drive mechanisms (in fact, I use Segate Baracudda drives), but I've had compatability issues with those cheaper external cases in the past due to the cheaper chipsets they use in the FireWire bride boards (which is why I now use the OWC drives with the Oxford boards). Most of those problems cropped up in some of the earlier versions of Mac OS X, and while those problems seem to be a thing of the past, I'm just a bit gunshy of those mass-market external drives.

2¢

Lorne Mathre · June 1st, 2006, 08:01 AM

A friend is editing HDV footage on his new Macbook Pro with an external 500G Firewire 800 G tech drive. He has had no problems at all. Go with G!

Brett Bevelacqua · June 1st, 2006, 12:48 PM

I have the LaCie Triple extreme and a G-Tech G-Raid haven't had a problem with either one yet

Barry Gribble · June 1st, 2006, 08:58 PM

I have some Seagates that I love. No problems at all, and they've gone fine between Macs and PCs.

Glenn Davidson · June 1st, 2006, 09:02 PM

I have 4 Glyph GT 050 Pros. They work great. Are very stable. Five year warranty, I think. Never lost and data in ProTools or FCP in over 5 years.

Chris Hocking · June 2nd, 2006, 10:10 PM

I've got three Lacie drives... never had a problem (touch wood!).

Matt Davis · June 26th, 2006, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hocking

I've got three Lacie drives... never had a problem (touch wood!).

In my previous job, I left a legacy of 16 LaCie triple interface disks, plus a few other Lacie capacities - lesson learned: the 1 Tb drive has very noisy fans, unnacceptable in anything other than a rack room. The other larger LaCie disks aren't as nice either. I stuck to the 300 Gb drives, with only one or two attached at any one time. No problems.

Now I'm independent, have a G-Raid 500 Gb as the main scratch drive, but the fan's got noisy as of late (it grumbles like a teenager at a shakespeare recital for the first 5-10 minutes after switch-on, then quietens to near silence).

I've just hooked up my 11th LaCie Triple Interface drive. They're great. Don't go mad and have them all linked up at once, just two or three at a time is fine.

A colleague with a similar number of LaCies has just invested in a SATA enclosure, and buys nude drives to shove in the 5 slots. Whilst this is a very high performance solution, the cost saving over individual disks is also a factor - a nude drive is 60% the cost of the equivalent LaCie. However, it's not the kind of solution that travels well (the enclosure failed recently too), and it doesn't work with a PowerBook, so it's not for me.

LaCie Triples all the way... :-)

Robert Knecht Schmidt · March 30th, 2008, 12:38 AM

I have been using a 1 TB LaCie on a PC for over a year and no failures/issues. (The PC itself has a way louder fan than the LaCie, so I have no gripes about noise.) Recently bought a 2 TB LaCie and felt I got a good deal on it, so hopefully it will work out well.

However, the Amazon.com reviews for LaCies are cause to make one nervous. Endless reports of disk failures--some with warning, some without--and zero help from customer service.

I'm glad to see the reports on LaCies on this forum are mostly positive. I don't care about how hot a drive runs or how noisy it is, but 3 TB of data loss would be disastrous.

Liam Hall · March 30th, 2008, 03:34 AM

Lacie are cheap and have a tendency to sleep a little too long for my liking but they're perfectly adequate for most DV/HDV applications.

They're not that robust, I've had three die on me for various reasons, but as long as you treat them gently and you back-up properly you'll be fine.

G-Tech are way superior, not sure I'd call them sexy but they are a professional solution - you get what you pay for.

May 27th, 2006, 09:50 AM	#1
Aric Mannion Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 616	Please recommend firewire drive! Any suggestions or warnings for firewire drives? I have a medium size 1.5ghz powerbook with 2 gigs sdram. For use with Sony HDV and Finalcut 5... I think. I have a porsche which works fine, but it has bad reviews lately. Is Lacie better? Please share you experiences.

May 27th, 2006, 10:46 AM	#2
Ron Pfister Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Basel area, Switzerland Posts: 285	You might want to take a look here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=68082 HTH, Ron __________________ Ronald P. Pfister halimedia - digital solutions and services www.halimedia.com

June 1st, 2006, 08:58 PM	#10
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	I have some Seagates that I love. No problems at all, and they've gone fine between Macs and PCs. __________________ Barry Gribble Integral Arts, IMDB

March 30th, 2008, 12:38 AM	#14
Robert Knecht Schmidt Wrangler Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,933	I have been using a 1 TB LaCie on a PC for over a year and no failures/issues. (The PC itself has a way louder fan than the LaCie, so I have no gripes about noise.) Recently bought a 2 TB LaCie and felt I got a good deal on it, so hopefully it will work out well. However, the Amazon.com reviews for LaCies are cause to make one nervous. Endless reports of disk failures--some with warning, some without--and zero help from customer service. I'm glad to see the reports on LaCies on this forum are mostly positive. I don't care about how hot a drive runs or how noisy it is, but 3 TB of data loss would be disastrous. __________________ All the best, Robert K S Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| The best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 30th, 2008, 03:34 AM	#15
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	Lacie are cheap and have a tendency to sleep a little too long for my liking but they're perfectly adequate for most DV/HDV applications. They're not that robust, I've had three die on me for various reasons, but as long as you treat them gently and you back-up properly you'll be fine. G-Tech are way superior, not sure I'd call them sexy but they are a professional solution - you get what you pay for. __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

May 27th, 2006, 04:28 PM	#3
Harry Bromley-Davenport Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: LA CA Posts: 317	Get G Tech. http://www.g-technology.com/ Best Harry.

May 31st, 2006, 04:28 PM	#6
Philip Gioja Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Piper City, IL Posts: 350	I have a Lacie 320 gig drive and like it a lot. I've been using it for a year and a half now, and haven't experienced any issues with it. Before the Lacie I had a couple of just your normal 7200 IBM drives in firewire housing units, and didn't like those very well -- one of them had trouble being recognized sometimes and sometimes would pop up fine but I'd have trouble rendering and capturing to it for some reason. I finally chucked the housings for those drives, installed them internally in my Mac, and bought the Lacie for my external drive. Happy ending...

May 31st, 2006, 06:43 PM	#7
Duane Smith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 234	I now exclusively use Mercury Elite Pro external FireWire hard drives from OWC because of the 100% reliability of the Oxford chipsets, but I've used drives from G Tech, Lacie, and Granite Digital in the past with no problems whatsoever. I think you'd be good with any of those brands. I will recommend that you avoid some of the more 'mass-marketed' drives from brands such as Western Digital, Maxtor, Segate, etc. They all make fine drive mechanisms (in fact, I use Segate Baracudda drives), but I've had compatability issues with those cheaper external cases in the past due to the cheaper chipsets they use in the FireWire bride boards (which is why I now use the OWC drives with the Oxford boards). Most of those problems cropped up in some of the earlier versions of Mac OS X, and while those problems seem to be a thing of the past, I'm just a bit gunshy of those mass-market external drives. 2¢

June 1st, 2006, 08:01 AM	#8
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	A friend is editing HDV footage on his new Macbook Pro with an external 500G Firewire 800 G tech drive. He has had no problems at all. Go with G!

June 1st, 2006, 12:48 PM	#9
Brett Bevelacqua New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palisades, NY Posts: 15	I have the LaCie Triple extreme and a G-Tech G-Raid haven't had a problem with either one yet

June 1st, 2006, 09:02 PM	#11
Glenn Davidson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nevada City, California Posts: 499	I have 4 Glyph GT 050 Pros. They work great. Are very stable. Five year warranty, I think. Never lost and data in ProTools or FCP in over 5 years.

June 2nd, 2006, 10:10 PM	#12
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	I've got three Lacie drives... never had a problem (touch wood!).