Troubles with Behringer BCF2000 and FCP at DVinfo.net

Hans Damkoehler · February 1st, 2006, 10:30 PM

Has anyone tried using the inexpensive BCF2000 to mix audio within FCP? I've done what each manual says to do and nothing happens. I'm running the BCF2000 in USB mode using Preset 1. FCP recognizes that the controller is out there and I set it for Mackie control. The manual says that the faders should jump to the correct postions when I pull up the Audio Mixer.

Well ... they ain't jumpin'! They ain't doin' nothin' but sittin' there!

Thoughts?

- H

Hans Damkoehler · February 6th, 2006, 01:13 PM

I contacted Behringer and the replied almost immediately with the following information. I got the BCF2000 to work withion 10 minutes! I used the app at http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php?story=752 for my sysex dump and it worked like a charm. So, for those of you with similar problems read the following:

Hi Hans and thanks for writing to us! First, I would recommend reviewing the installation and setup steps outlined below to make sure a step has not been missed inadvertently. You also indicate that your BCF2000 is still on firmware revision 1.04; make sure to update the firmware in your BCF2000 to the latest version, 1.10, and download a copy of the "B-CONTROL BCF2000 Emulation modes" PDF manual from the following link:

http://www.behringer.com/05_support/...s.cfm?lang=eng

Because the BCF2000 can emulate a Mackie Control, Logic Control, or Mackie Baby HUI control surface, many of the newest versions of Apple Pro series applications will work with the BCF2000, including the current versions of Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack, and Logic Pro 7.

For most of the applications you're using, you're going to be interested in the Mackie Control for Logic emulation mode. First, make sure your BCF2000 has version 1.06 or later firmware loaded into it (it will be easy to tell, as the BCF2000 should display a version number during the power-up sequence). If your BCF2000 is not running version 1.06 or later, or you want to update it to the most recent (currently 1.10) firmware version anyway, check out the instructions below to learn how to get the updater MIDI SysEx file into your BCF2000 to get it updated to the latest firmware version.

To switch between the five different modes in the BCF2000, you just hold down one of the first five buttons on the top row of buttons (right below the row of knobs) while turning on the power on the BCF2000. Starting from left to right on the top row of buttons, holding down one of the first five buttons from the left while turning on the power to the BCF2000 will put you into 'regular' B-Control mode, Mackie Control for Cubase/Nuendo, Logic Control (aka Mackie Control for Logic) mode, Mackie Control for Sonar, or Mackie Baby HUI emulation modes. (I've attached a couple PDF files with illustrations to help you).

Tip: If your BCF2000 says "EG" after booting it up into one of the emulation modes, it means you've accidentally held a button down a little too long and the BCF2000 has gone into 'global edit' mode. Just press the button labeled EXIT to return to normal operation.

Before going too far, it's also a good idea to check to make sure you've got your BCF2000 communicating with your Mac first. First, of course, make sure you've got the BCF2000 hooked up to your Mac with a good USB cable. Now take a look at the small communication status lights over towards the right of the BCF2000, and make sure the one labeled USB MODE on the far right is lit up - if it's not, something's not plugged in, or you've got a bad USB cable (or you've set the BCF2000 for MIDI communication only - refer to the 'operating modes' section in your owners manual to make sure your BCF2000 is in "U-1" USB mode before proceeding).

Once you've got your BCF2000 connected to your Mac via USB, it's a good idea to check OS X's Audio MIDI setup (applications->utilities->audio MIDI setup) to make sure the BCF2000 is showing up there as a MIDI device. If it is, you're good to go. Go into your Apple Pro application of choice, such as the most recent versions of Final Cut Pro, Motion, etc. (the ones that support Mackie Control or Logic Control as a control surface) and add a Mackie Control or Logic Control. Then choose the BCF2000 as the "MIDI in" and "MIDI out" ports that your "Mackie Control" or "Logic Control" are hooked up to.

If you get stuck just let me know and we'll help you get it all figured out!

If your BCF2000 is on an older version of firmware and you want to update it to v1.10 first, first make sure you've got it correctly hooked up to your Mac so that it shows up under Audio MIDI setup, then you'll need to use a MIDI utility program such as SysEx Librarian (a free program available from snoize.com) to 'dump' the update MIDI SysEx file into the BCF2000.

B-Control Downloads: http://www.behringer.com/05_support/...s.cfm?lang=eng

Windows users: Make sure to also download and follow the instructions for the "USB MIDI DRIVER" and "Firmware update utility" from the B-Control Downloads page. (No USB MIDI driver installation is necessary for Mac OS X users, the necessary 'driver' support is already part of the OS X operating system.)

- SysEx Librarian or MIDI Dump are two popular (and free) options for transferring the SysEx file for Mac OS X users:
http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php?story=752

We hope that we have been able to help you with this information.

Best regards,

Your BEHRINGER Customer Support Team

Chris Hocking · November 14th, 2006, 06:08 PM

Hi Hans,

Sorry for digging up an old post!

Just wondering what you think of the BCF2000? After the initial setup issues, was it worth the purchase? Any more problems?

I'm concidering purchasing one, but just want to hear what others think first.

Thanks!

Chris!

February 1st, 2006, 10:30 PM	#1
Hans Damkoehler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Posts: 115	Troubles with Behringer BCF2000 and FCP Has anyone tried using the inexpensive BCF2000 to mix audio within FCP? I've done what each manual says to do and nothing happens. I'm running the BCF2000 in USB mode using Preset 1. FCP recognizes that the controller is out there and I set it for Mackie control. The manual says that the faders should jump to the correct postions when I pull up the Audio Mixer. Well ... they ain't jumpin'! They ain't doin' nothin' but sittin' there! Thoughts? - H __________________ Hans Damkoehler fcp.video.editor@me.com

February 6th, 2006, 01:13 PM	#2
Hans Damkoehler Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Posts: 115	Here's how to do it! I contacted Behringer and the replied almost immediately with the following information. I got the BCF2000 to work withion 10 minutes! I used the app at http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php?story=752 for my sysex dump and it worked like a charm. So, for those of you with similar problems read the following: Hi Hans and thanks for writing to us! First, I would recommend reviewing the installation and setup steps outlined below to make sure a step has not been missed inadvertently. You also indicate that your BCF2000 is still on firmware revision 1.04; make sure to update the firmware in your BCF2000 to the latest version, 1.10, and download a copy of the "B-CONTROL BCF2000 Emulation modes" PDF manual from the following link: http://www.behringer.com/05_support/...s.cfm?lang=eng Because the BCF2000 can emulate a Mackie Control, Logic Control, or Mackie Baby HUI control surface, many of the newest versions of Apple Pro series applications will work with the BCF2000, including the current versions of Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack, and Logic Pro 7. For most of the applications you're using, you're going to be interested in the Mackie Control for Logic emulation mode. First, make sure your BCF2000 has version 1.06 or later firmware loaded into it (it will be easy to tell, as the BCF2000 should display a version number during the power-up sequence). If your BCF2000 is not running version 1.06 or later, or you want to update it to the most recent (currently 1.10) firmware version anyway, check out the instructions below to learn how to get the updater MIDI SysEx file into your BCF2000 to get it updated to the latest firmware version. To switch between the five different modes in the BCF2000, you just hold down one of the first five buttons on the top row of buttons (right below the row of knobs) while turning on the power on the BCF2000. Starting from left to right on the top row of buttons, holding down one of the first five buttons from the left while turning on the power to the BCF2000 will put you into 'regular' B-Control mode, Mackie Control for Cubase/Nuendo, Logic Control (aka Mackie Control for Logic) mode, Mackie Control for Sonar, or Mackie Baby HUI emulation modes. (I've attached a couple PDF files with illustrations to help you). Tip: If your BCF2000 says "EG" after booting it up into one of the emulation modes, it means you've accidentally held a button down a little too long and the BCF2000 has gone into 'global edit' mode. Just press the button labeled EXIT to return to normal operation. Before going too far, it's also a good idea to check to make sure you've got your BCF2000 communicating with your Mac first. First, of course, make sure you've got the BCF2000 hooked up to your Mac with a good USB cable. Now take a look at the small communication status lights over towards the right of the BCF2000, and make sure the one labeled USB MODE on the far right is lit up - if it's not, something's not plugged in, or you've got a bad USB cable (or you've set the BCF2000 for MIDI communication only - refer to the 'operating modes' section in your owners manual to make sure your BCF2000 is in "U-1" USB mode before proceeding). Once you've got your BCF2000 connected to your Mac via USB, it's a good idea to check OS X's Audio MIDI setup (applications->utilities->audio MIDI setup) to make sure the BCF2000 is showing up there as a MIDI device. If it is, you're good to go. Go into your Apple Pro application of choice, such as the most recent versions of Final Cut Pro, Motion, etc. (the ones that support Mackie Control or Logic Control as a control surface) and add a Mackie Control or Logic Control. Then choose the BCF2000 as the "MIDI in" and "MIDI out" ports that your "Mackie Control" or "Logic Control" are hooked up to. If you get stuck just let me know and we'll help you get it all figured out! If your BCF2000 is on an older version of firmware and you want to update it to v1.10 first, first make sure you've got it correctly hooked up to your Mac so that it shows up under Audio MIDI setup, then you'll need to use a MIDI utility program such as SysEx Librarian (a free program available from snoize.com) to 'dump' the update MIDI SysEx file into the BCF2000. B-Control Downloads: http://www.behringer.com/05_support/...s.cfm?lang=eng Windows users: Make sure to also download and follow the instructions for the "USB MIDI DRIVER" and "Firmware update utility" from the B-Control Downloads page. (No USB MIDI driver installation is necessary for Mac OS X users, the necessary 'driver' support is already part of the OS X operating system.) - SysEx Librarian or MIDI Dump are two popular (and free) options for transferring the SysEx file for Mac OS X users: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php?story=752 We hope that we have been able to help you with this information. Best regards, Your BEHRINGER Customer Support Team __________________ Hans Damkoehler fcp.video.editor@me.com

November 14th, 2006, 06:08 PM	#3
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	Hi Hans, Sorry for digging up an old post! Just wondering what you think of the BCF2000? After the initial setup issues, was it worth the purchase? Any more problems? I'm concidering purchasing one, but just want to hear what others think first. Thanks! Chris!