Key differences between FCX and FCP

Kevin Scarlett · April 6th, 2003, 09:50 PM

An upgrade to FCP 4 from FCX is available from the Apple Store for $699.

Mike Butler · April 29th, 2003, 04:08 PM

Hmmm...no timecode, sounds like a major inconvenience! Plus no keyframes on filters, means you can't use Joe's Filters. But it's good that you can upgrade to FCP4.

Ken Tanaka · April 29th, 2003, 04:21 PM

Mike,

According to the Joe's Filters site, his filters are compatible with Final Cut Express.

Joe Maller is actually a member here. Perhaps he'll chime-in.

I agree that this filter set is the best value for the Final Cut users today. I use them frequently and am grateful to John Locke for pointing them out to me.

Richard Sanford · May 7th, 2003, 05:19 PM

Jeff, you mentioned that FCX does not read out time code to the user. Does this mean that each new scene in a project therefore
starts at 00:00 and counts up from there? My only experience was with an earlier version of Premier, and I believe this is what it was doing. Richard

Jeff Donald · May 7th, 2003, 10:34 PM

I don't use express, I compiled the comparison from existing literature after FCE was released. FCE uses TC, but doesn't display it. I believe it shows Total Run Time (TRT) or elapsed time.

Rick Tugman · August 4th, 2003, 09:32 AM

Apple never said FCX was FCP..... they always said FCX offered "some" of the same features as FCP .... Pro is for the PRO and Express is nothing more than the poor man's version of Pro. What you get is what you get for 1/2 the price, and for some people, it's enough.

Mark Newhouse · October 27th, 2003, 09:27 AM

Here's a link to a post in another forum that covers iMovie, FCE and FCP (note the dollar amounts are Canadian...)

Comparing iMovie, FCE and FCP

Ed Kelly · January 19th, 2004, 08:11 PM

Jeff,
is it possible to do split screen editing with DC Express, without additional plug ins?
thanks, Ed Kelly

Jeff Donald · January 21st, 2004, 04:26 AM

What do you mean by split screen editing? That's not really a term Apple uses in describing their editors.

Ed Kelly · January 21st, 2004, 07:35 AM

Hi Jeff,
my idea of split screen is a picture within a picture, such as in a demonstration type video, where you are watching a long shot of say a person nailing a board on the side of a house, and in the corner would be a smaller box of the same person, but zoomed in on the hammer and nail.
the tutorial with fce sort of shows this by usind wireframe, but its not contunious, just appearing in maybe one clip.
thanks, Ed K

Jeff Donald · January 21st, 2004, 09:00 AM

Yes, FCE does picture-in-picture, but their are limits on setting key frames. Again, I don't use this software, so you might want to post a question to the mac forum about FCE and key frames etc.

Waldemar Winkler · August 12th, 2004, 09:12 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : FCX is software limited to 8 tracks of audio (hardware may limit you to fewer). FCP has unlimited number of tracks. Both only allow for two channels of audio to be input and output. Additional audio hardware can be added to allow fro more I/O options. -->>>

8 tracks of audio? I believe my copy of FCX claims 99 tracks of video and 99 tracks of audio. Haven't tried to push it yet. I haven't needed more than six tracks or six video tracks so far.

Jeff Donald · August 12th, 2004, 09:52 PM

Waldemar, parts of this discussion are over a year and a half old. FCX has been updated to version 2 and the audio capabilities improved since the post you quoted.

April 6th, 2003, 09:50 PM	#16
Kevin Scarlett New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York, New York, USA Posts: 6	FCX to FCP upgrade An upgrade to FCP 4 from FCX is available from the Apple Store for $699.

April 29th, 2003, 04:08 PM	#17
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Hmmm...no timecode, sounds like a major inconvenience! Plus no keyframes on filters, means you can't use Joe's Filters. But it's good that you can upgrade to FCP4. __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

April 29th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#18
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Mike, According to the Joe's Filters site, his filters are compatible with Final Cut Express. Joe Maller is actually a member here. Perhaps he'll chime-in. I agree that this filter set is the best value for the Final Cut users today. I use them frequently and am grateful to John Locke for pointing them out to me. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 7th, 2003, 05:19 PM	#19
Richard Sanford New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 5	Final Cut Express Jeff, you mentioned that FCX does not read out time code to the user. Does this mean that each new scene in a project therefore starts at 00:00 and counts up from there? My only experience was with an earlier version of Premier, and I believe this is what it was doing. Richard

May 7th, 2003, 10:34 PM	#20
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I don't use express, I compiled the comparison from existing literature after FCE was released. FCE uses TC, but doesn't display it. I believe it shows Total Run Time (TRT) or elapsed time. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 4th, 2003, 09:32 AM	#21
Rick Tugman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 105	Apple never said FCX was FCP..... they always said FCX offered "some" of the same features as FCP .... Pro is for the PRO and Express is nothing more than the poor man's version of Pro. What you get is what you get for 1/2 the price, and for some people, it's enough. __________________ Camera: Panasonic DV953 PC: Apple Aluminum G4 Powerbook - 15 inch Final Cut Pro 4 and other assorted goodies!

October 27th, 2003, 09:27 AM	#22
Mark Newhouse Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 63	Here's a link to a post in another forum that covers iMovie, FCE and FCP (note the dollar amounts are Canadian...) Comparing iMovie, FCE and FCP __________________ --Mark

January 19th, 2004, 08:11 PM	#23
Ed Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Gansevoort, NY Posts: 138	Jeff, is it possible to do split screen editing with DC Express, without additional plug ins? thanks, Ed Kelly

January 21st, 2004, 04:26 AM	#24
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What do you mean by split screen editing? That's not really a term Apple uses in describing their editors. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 21st, 2004, 07:35 AM	#25
Ed Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Gansevoort, NY Posts: 138	FCE Split Screen Hi Jeff, my idea of split screen is a picture within a picture, such as in a demonstration type video, where you are watching a long shot of say a person nailing a board on the side of a house, and in the corner would be a smaller box of the same person, but zoomed in on the hammer and nail. the tutorial with fce sort of shows this by usind wireframe, but its not contunious, just appearing in maybe one clip. thanks, Ed K

January 21st, 2004, 09:00 AM	#26
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Yes, FCE does picture-in-picture, but their are limits on setting key frames. Again, I don't use this software, so you might want to post a question to the mac forum about FCE and key frames etc. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 12th, 2004, 09:12 PM	#27
Waldemar Winkler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durango, Colorado, USA Posts: 711	<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : FCX is software limited to 8 tracks of audio (hardware may limit you to fewer). FCP has unlimited number of tracks. Both only allow for two channels of audio to be input and output. Additional audio hardware can be added to allow fro more I/O options. -->>> 8 tracks of audio? I believe my copy of FCX claims 99 tracks of video and 99 tracks of audio. Haven't tried to push it yet. I haven't needed more than six tracks or six video tracks so far. __________________ Waldemar

August 12th, 2004, 09:52 PM	#28
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Waldemar, parts of this discussion are over a year and a half old. FCX has been updated to version 2 and the audio capabilities improved since the post you quoted. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors