capture problems in fcp4.5 at DVinfo.net

Nick Sommerville · November 28th, 2005, 01:35 AM

Hi guys...fcp 4.5 doesn't see my camera so i can't capture anything. I read the sticky above and tried reinstalling quicktime but that didn't work.
I can't even see the camera when I check the system profiler.

This is my system.
FCP 4.5
OS X 10.3.9
Quicktime 7.0.3
I have also tried back dating quicktime to 6.5.2 but since I tried Boyds suggestion of reinstalling 7.0.3 i can't back date to 6.5.2 because it says it can't find the right version of quicktime on the target drive when i try and install it.

I am now thinking the only way to get this to work is to update to Tiger and FCP 5...i really can't afford it right now and have an urgent project to edit...any other suggestions? This is really the first project i've done so i can't say if it has worked before.

Oh yeh i am using my friends crummy sharp mini dv cam...would FCP have problems with this anyway? I even tried capture in IMovie and that couldn't see the camera either.

I know the firewire port on my powerbook is working cos other devices i connect are seen.

Thanks guys

Boyd Ostroff · November 28th, 2005, 06:22 AM

Hi Nick. From everything I've read, FCP 4.5 doesn't play well with QT7. Did you try the uninstaller from Apple's site?

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cktime701.html

But that's for uninstalling QT 7.0.1, so maybe it won't work on 7.0.3? In that case I think you need to first revert to QT 7.0.1 using this installer, THEN run the QT7.0.1 uninstaller above:

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cktime703.html

But I suppose it could also be a problem with your camera. If this doesn't fix thing, try using that camera on another Mac. But for starters I'd get back to QT6; I think that will fix the problem. Let us know how this works for you. If it fixes the problem I'll add it to the "sticky" to help others in the future.

Nick Sommerville · November 29th, 2005, 06:55 PM

Thanks for your help Boyd. I did indeed have to use the quicktime 7.0.3 uninstaller and then the 7.0.1 uninstaller to get back to 6.5.2....unfortunately it still hasn't solved my problem...so i guess the next step is to find another camera and try that. I do remember it having worked in the past so i'm sure there must be a way to solve it..

thanks again

Nick Sommerville · December 5th, 2005, 09:43 PM

ok..so i think i'm getting closer. Got a different camera and it almost works. I can control it in fcp 4.5 but i can't capture from it. when i go to log and capture window..the preview is disabled but i can use the control buttons to start and stop playback on the camera etc...the timecode ticks over...but it won't capture. when i press the capture now button it says that i haven't selected a device.
the camera works fine in imovie...mybe i'll just have to capture through that. Anyone else have these problems?

my system is now os x 10.3.9
FCP 4.5
Quicktime 6.5.2

oh and i installed the pro pack update from apple for fcp etc

this is kinda frustrating the helll outta me

Shane Ross · December 6th, 2005, 02:10 AM

Is your camera compatible with FCP?

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/...pro/specs.html

I don't see ANY Sharp cameras on their compatibility list, so that is why your friends camera didn't work. What are you using now?

Nick Sommerville · December 6th, 2005, 06:06 PM

the camera i now have is a samsung and the friend i borrowed it from said it has worked with final cut pro, not sure which version though. But I thought the list of qualified devices was not definitive. I mean it does't list the PAL version of sonys pd 170/150 but i'm pretty sure there are heaps of guys out there using those. Unless I'm missing something here..

Boyd Ostroff · December 6th, 2005, 06:12 PM

If a camera isn't on the list I believe that only means that it hasn't been tested with FCP, not that it won't work. But I have no familiarity with Samsung cameras personally. My daughter has a cheap Sharp camcorder and it works fine with iMovie.

Mike Hanlon · December 6th, 2005, 07:49 PM

My standard suggestion for this kind of problem is to through away FCP preferences. Whenever I had problems with a camera/deck not being seen or acting goofy, that was my only fix. I didn't see that in this thread so I thought I would throw it in.

Nick Sommerville · December 7th, 2005, 04:44 AM

wow..never expected this would work.

I followed Mikes suggestion but i got no results. so on a whim i re-upgraded quicktime to the latest version, 7.0.3 and lo and behold after a restart everything worked I can now capture..

I am so happy. Thanks for the suggestions guys.

cheers

Andrew Hogan · December 7th, 2005, 04:23 PM

I was having a similar problem as soon as i updated to QT 7 a few weeks ago. Then I went deep into the preferences of Quicktime and selected use Quicktime for DV and then its all worked.

November 28th, 2005, 01:35 AM	#1
Nick Sommerville New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8	capture problems in fcp4.5 Hi guys...fcp 4.5 doesn't see my camera so i can't capture anything. I read the sticky above and tried reinstalling quicktime but that didn't work. I can't even see the camera when I check the system profiler. This is my system. FCP 4.5 OS X 10.3.9 Quicktime 7.0.3 I have also tried back dating quicktime to 6.5.2 but since I tried Boyds suggestion of reinstalling 7.0.3 i can't back date to 6.5.2 because it says it can't find the right version of quicktime on the target drive when i try and install it. I am now thinking the only way to get this to work is to update to Tiger and FCP 5...i really can't afford it right now and have an urgent project to edit...any other suggestions? This is really the first project i've done so i can't say if it has worked before. Oh yeh i am using my friends crummy sharp mini dv cam...would FCP have problems with this anyway? I even tried capture in IMovie and that couldn't see the camera either. I know the firewire port on my powerbook is working cos other devices i connect are seen. Thanks guys

December 6th, 2005, 07:49 PM	#8
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	My standard suggestion for this kind of problem is to through away FCP preferences. Whenever I had problems with a camera/deck not being seen or acting goofy, that was my only fix. I didn't see that in this thread so I thought I would throw it in. __________________ VM Productions

November 28th, 2005, 06:22 AM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Hi Nick. From everything I've read, FCP 4.5 doesn't play well with QT7. Did you try the uninstaller from Apple's site? http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cktime701.html But that's for uninstalling QT 7.0.1, so maybe it won't work on 7.0.3? In that case I think you need to first revert to QT 7.0.1 using this installer, THEN run the QT7.0.1 uninstaller above: http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cktime703.html But I suppose it could also be a problem with your camera. If this doesn't fix thing, try using that camera on another Mac. But for starters I'd get back to QT6; I think that will fix the problem. Let us know how this works for you. If it fixes the problem I'll add it to the "sticky" to help others in the future.

November 29th, 2005, 06:55 PM	#3
Nick Sommerville New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8	Thanks for your help Boyd. I did indeed have to use the quicktime 7.0.3 uninstaller and then the 7.0.1 uninstaller to get back to 6.5.2....unfortunately it still hasn't solved my problem...so i guess the next step is to find another camera and try that. I do remember it having worked in the past so i'm sure there must be a way to solve it.. thanks again

December 5th, 2005, 09:43 PM	#4
Nick Sommerville New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8	ok..so i think i'm getting closer. Got a different camera and it almost works. I can control it in fcp 4.5 but i can't capture from it. when i go to log and capture window..the preview is disabled but i can use the control buttons to start and stop playback on the camera etc...the timecode ticks over...but it won't capture. when i press the capture now button it says that i haven't selected a device. the camera works fine in imovie...mybe i'll just have to capture through that. Anyone else have these problems? my system is now os x 10.3.9 FCP 4.5 Quicktime 6.5.2 oh and i installed the pro pack update from apple for fcp etc this is kinda frustrating the helll outta me

December 6th, 2005, 02:10 AM	#5
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	Is your camera compatible with FCP? http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/...pro/specs.html I don't see ANY Sharp cameras on their compatibility list, so that is why your friends camera didn't work. What are you using now?

December 6th, 2005, 06:06 PM	#6
Nick Sommerville New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8	the camera i now have is a samsung and the friend i borrowed it from said it has worked with final cut pro, not sure which version though. But I thought the list of qualified devices was not definitive. I mean it does't list the PAL version of sonys pd 170/150 but i'm pretty sure there are heaps of guys out there using those. Unless I'm missing something here..

December 6th, 2005, 06:12 PM	#7
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	If a camera isn't on the list I believe that only means that it hasn't been tested with FCP, not that it won't work. But I have no familiarity with Samsung cameras personally. My daughter has a cheap Sharp camcorder and it works fine with iMovie.

December 7th, 2005, 04:44 AM	#9
Nick Sommerville New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8	wow..never expected this would work. I followed Mikes suggestion but i got no results. so on a whim i re-upgraded quicktime to the latest version, 7.0.3 and lo and behold after a restart everything worked I can now capture.. I am so happy. Thanks for the suggestions guys. cheers

December 7th, 2005, 04:23 PM	#10
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	I was having a similar problem as soon as i updated to QT 7 a few weeks ago. Then I went deep into the preferences of Quicktime and selected use Quicktime for DV and then its all worked.