Several hrs of PIP rendering forever at DVinfo.net

Dana Salsbury · May 3rd, 2011, 08:21 AM

Is there any way to shorten the render time for a PIP that lasts several hours? The render time is five times as long and I have ten more hours of PIP left to produce.

Bart Walczak · May 3rd, 2011, 08:36 AM

What resolution and codecs are you using?

Dana Salsbury · May 3rd, 2011, 01:43 PM

I'm using AVC-HD with ProRes 1920 x 1080 compressed to MPEG-2.

Dana Salsbury · May 3rd, 2011, 05:04 PM

Since I'm converting to SD anyway, is there any way I can convert before it has to compress this. A two hour project has been rendering for 16 hours so far and I have several deadlines. Do I just change the sequence settings?

Bart Walczak · May 4th, 2011, 01:51 AM

Create an SD sequence, and scale your footage down in the sequence, not on export. This way FCP will only have to render 1/4th of the size, performing all PiP calculations in SD resolution. This should speed up your work considerably. AVCHD and MPEG are both computationally intensive codecs, and by your render time I assume your machine is not very fast.

Dana Salsbury · May 4th, 2011, 10:03 AM

Thank you Bart! What would you recommend for a 16:9 SD sequence?

Bart Walczak · May 4th, 2011, 11:57 AM

Standard DV codec should do fine. Uncompressed or DVCPRO50 would be other options if you really wanted to go for quality, but might be an overkill. And if you only want to deliver it as a DVD, then by all means go straight to MPEG-2, you'll have to convert your material to it anyway.

Dana Salsbury · May 5th, 2011, 12:59 AM

Thank you so much Bart!

Zach Love · May 11th, 2011, 02:21 PM

Or run media manager overnight & have everything in SD ready for you in the morning.

It'll take less time to render SD in a SD sequence, than HD in a SD sequence.

Brett Sherman · May 25th, 2011, 02:18 PM

Also make sure rendering setting is on 8-bit, not 10-bit. I've found this can double my render times at least.

May 3rd, 2011, 08:21 AM	#1
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Is there any way to shorten the render time for a PIP that lasts several hours? The render time is five times as long and I have ten more hours of PIP left to produce. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

May 3rd, 2011, 08:36 AM	#2
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever What resolution and codecs are you using? __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.

May 3rd, 2011, 01:43 PM	#3
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever I'm using AVC-HD with ProRes 1920 x 1080 compressed to MPEG-2. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

May 3rd, 2011, 05:04 PM	#4
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Since I'm converting to SD anyway, is there any way I can convert before it has to compress this. A two hour project has been rendering for 16 hours so far and I have several deadlines. Do I just change the sequence settings? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

May 4th, 2011, 01:51 AM	#5
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Create an SD sequence, and scale your footage down in the sequence, not on export. This way FCP will only have to render 1/4th of the size, performing all PiP calculations in SD resolution. This should speed up your work considerably. AVCHD and MPEG are both computationally intensive codecs, and by your render time I assume your machine is not very fast. __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.

May 4th, 2011, 10:03 AM	#6
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Thank you Bart! What would you recommend for a 16:9 SD sequence? __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

May 4th, 2011, 11:57 AM	#7
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Standard DV codec should do fine. Uncompressed or DVCPRO50 would be other options if you really wanted to go for quality, but might be an overkill. And if you only want to deliver it as a DVD, then by all means go straight to MPEG-2, you'll have to convert your material to it anyway. __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.

May 5th, 2011, 12:59 AM	#8
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Thank you so much Bart! __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

May 11th, 2011, 02:21 PM	#9
Zach Love Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 944	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Or run media manager overnight & have everything in SD ready for you in the morning. It'll take less time to render SD in a SD sequence, than HD in a SD sequence. __________________ Nothing says you're a serious video maker like S-VHS

May 25th, 2011, 02:18 PM	#10
Brett Sherman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mount Rainier, MD Posts: 428	Re: Several hrs of PIP rendering forever Also make sure rendering setting is on 8-bit, not 10-bit. I've found this can double my render times at least.