Time code in transferred clips doesn't match timecode in L&T at DVinfo.net

Noam Osband · February 17th, 2011, 04:56 PM

So, after logging hundreds of clips, I've noticed that the imported clip is different than what I'm capturing.

If I enter 20:10:10:05 in Log and Transfer, that same image shows up a few seconds earlier in the transferred clip, showing up, let's say at 23:10:08:00. It also means my clips are all messed up since they all start and end a few seconds early.

I'm using FCP 7.0.3 and Snow Leopard.

Dave Partington · February 19th, 2011, 06:33 AM

I'm not 100% sure on what you are doing wrong here. Can you give us a step by step of what you are doing and seeing?

Arnie Schlissel · February 19th, 2011, 09:52 AM

What format is this? What camera is shooting it?

Noam Osband · February 19th, 2011, 02:36 PM

It's AVCHD shot with a HMC-150. To make matters weirder, apparently, it's doing it just with some clips on the card. What shows up in the Log and Transfer window is a few seconds or sometimes just frames earlier than what shows up for the same time code after I transfer the clip. Meaning, the same time code shows different images. If I transfer a bit of the clip, the transferred clip's image starts later than I want, even though the timecode is the same as in the Log and Transfer window. Simply put, what might be 22:20:10 in log and transfer shows up as 22:20:18 in the browser.

That said, some of the other clips on the card seem to work fine (although I'm now paranoid and checking each one after transferring which takes a lot of time...) I have never noticed this problem before. Last night I trashed my preferences and restarted but this doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I shot in 1080 at 24p.

any thoughts?

Dave Partington · February 19th, 2011, 04:43 PM

I've transferred hundreds of hours from HMC151s and never noticed this problem.

Are you setting in/out point in L&T or always capturing the entire clip?

Noam Osband · February 19th, 2011, 06:08 PM

I'm setting ins and out points....

Dave Partington · February 20th, 2011, 12:52 PM

can you give us a screen show of the L&T window and one of the FCP project once you've brought in a clip that you think is wrong?

Arnie Schlissel · February 20th, 2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noam Osband

It's AVCHD shot with a HMC-150. To make matters weirder, apparently, it's doing it just with some clips on the card. What shows up in the Log and Transfer window is a few seconds or sometimes just frames earlier than what shows up for the same time code after I transfer the clip. Meaning, the same time code shows different images. If I transfer a bit of the clip, the transferred clip's image starts later than I want, even though the timecode is the same as in the Log and Transfer window. Simply put, what might be 22:20:10 in log and transfer shows up as 22:20:18 in the browser.

My guess (and it's only a guess) is that these clips are a little bit corrupted. It could be a problem with the card, it could just be a random thing. After you backup your cards, you should format them. If the problem continues to occur, buy new cards.

Noam Osband · March 4th, 2011, 04:59 PM

Here are two screen grabs. Log and transfer is a little bit ahead. I'm inclined to think it's just a corrupted file. This is the only time in the many hours I've used this card I've had this problem. I always format when reusing. I now kind of wished I hadn't gotten the Patriot card.

February 17th, 2011, 04:56 PM	#1
Noam Osband Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Philadelphia, United States Posts: 163	Time code in transferred clips doesn't match timecode in L&T So, after logging hundreds of clips, I've noticed that the imported clip is different than what I'm capturing. If I enter 20:10:10:05 in Log and Transfer, that same image shows up a few seconds earlier in the transferred clip, showing up, let's say at 23:10:08:00. It also means my clips are all messed up since they all start and end a few seconds early. I'm using FCP 7.0.3 and Snow Leopard.

February 19th, 2011, 06:33 AM	#2
Dave Partington Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, England Posts: 1,323	I'm not 100% sure on what you are doing wrong here. Can you give us a step by step of what you are doing and seeing? __________________ Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW Aerial Photo / Aerial Video \| Corporate Video Production

February 19th, 2011, 09:52 AM	#3
Arnie Schlissel Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York NY Posts: 322	What format is this? What camera is shooting it? __________________ Post production is not an afterthought! www.arniepix.com

February 19th, 2011, 04:43 PM	#5
Dave Partington Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, England Posts: 1,323	I've transferred hundreds of hours from HMC151s and never noticed this problem. Are you setting in/out point in L&T or always capturing the entire clip? __________________ Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW Aerial Photo / Aerial Video \| Corporate Video Production

February 20th, 2011, 12:52 PM	#7
Dave Partington Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, England Posts: 1,323	can you give us a screen show of the L&T window and one of the FCP project once you've brought in a clip that you think is wrong? __________________ Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW Aerial Photo / Aerial Video \| Corporate Video Production

February 19th, 2011, 02:36 PM	#4
Noam Osband Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Philadelphia, United States Posts: 163	It's AVCHD shot with a HMC-150. To make matters weirder, apparently, it's doing it just with some clips on the card. What shows up in the Log and Transfer window is a few seconds or sometimes just frames earlier than what shows up for the same time code after I transfer the clip. Meaning, the same time code shows different images. If I transfer a bit of the clip, the transferred clip's image starts later than I want, even though the timecode is the same as in the Log and Transfer window. Simply put, what might be 22:20:10 in log and transfer shows up as 22:20:18 in the browser. That said, some of the other clips on the card seem to work fine (although I'm now paranoid and checking each one after transferring which takes a lot of time...) I have never noticed this problem before. Last night I trashed my preferences and restarted but this doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I shot in 1080 at 24p. any thoughts?

February 19th, 2011, 06:08 PM	#6
Noam Osband Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Philadelphia, United States Posts: 163	I'm setting ins and out points....

March 4th, 2011, 04:59 PM	#9
Noam Osband Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Philadelphia, United States Posts: 163	Re: Time code in transferred clips doesn't match timecode in L&T Here are two screen grabs. Log and transfer is a little bit ahead. I'm inclined to think it's just a corrupted file. This is the only time in the many hours I've used this card I've had this problem. I always format when reusing. I now kind of wished I hadn't gotten the Patriot card. Attached Thumbnails