Should I use 30fps or 60fps in my timeline? at DVinfo.net

Alex Savage · January 27th, 2011, 08:44 PM

I've started a new project where the finished product will be DVD, and 720p download. I'm shooting with Panasonic GH2s so I can either film in 1080 24p or 720 60p. Since I film action sports I've been filming mostly in 720 60p and now I'm thinking I should film entirely in that format to keep things simple.

My question is should I use a 29.97fps timeline since that's my end product or 59.94fps since that's what my source format is? I will be using some slow motion in the project. Some of the research I've done suggests a 30 fps timeline will allow you to use your footage at half speed and use actual frames instead of interpolating frames.

I've already started editing in a 60fps timeline. If it's better to switch to 30fps, can I copy my editing over or would I need to start from scratch? Some of the footage I have already was shot in 1080 24p so I guess I'll need to convert that in compressor.

Thanks for any help!!

Alex Savage · January 28th, 2011, 11:02 AM

I've read in a couple different places that if you simply drop 24p footage into a 60fps timeline it will add the proper 3:2 pulldown without the need to convert in compressor. If that's true it would make mixing those formats in a 60fps timeline very easy. Only problem is it seems you need to work in a 30fps timeline to achieve 50% slow motion with real frames. I'm converting one of my clips from 24 to 30 in compressor now and it's taking forever! Don't want to have to do this every time just to get some extra resolution.

Liam Hall · January 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM

You need to use Cinema Tools to change frame rate. It's really fast and really simple.

Tim Dashwood · January 29th, 2011, 05:46 PM

Run the clips that you want to use for slow motion through Cinema Tools batch conform at 29.97fps. Then edit in a 720p30 sequence. FCP will automatically drop every other frame for you when you drop your 720p60 "real-time" clips into the 720p30 sequence. Your CT conformed clips will already be 720p30 for 50% slowmotion.

When you encode for your DVD you will end up with 480p30 but still have 720p30 for archive.

January 27th, 2011, 08:44 PM	#1
Alex Savage New Boot Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 10	Should I use 30fps or 60fps in my timeline? I've started a new project where the finished product will be DVD, and 720p download. I'm shooting with Panasonic GH2s so I can either film in 1080 24p or 720 60p. Since I film action sports I've been filming mostly in 720 60p and now I'm thinking I should film entirely in that format to keep things simple. My question is should I use a 29.97fps timeline since that's my end product or 59.94fps since that's what my source format is? I will be using some slow motion in the project. Some of the research I've done suggests a 30 fps timeline will allow you to use your footage at half speed and use actual frames instead of interpolating frames. I've already started editing in a 60fps timeline. If it's better to switch to 30fps, can I copy my editing over or would I need to start from scratch? Some of the footage I have already was shot in 1080 24p so I guess I'll need to convert that in compressor. Thanks for any help!!

January 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM	#3
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	You need to use Cinema Tools to change frame rate. It's really fast and really simple. __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

January 29th, 2011, 05:46 PM	#4
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	Run the clips that you want to use for slow motion through Cinema Tools batch conform at 29.97fps. Then edit in a 720p30 sequence. FCP will automatically drop every other frame for you when you drop your 720p60 "real-time" clips into the 720p30 sequence. Your CT conformed clips will already be 720p30 for 50% slowmotion. When you encode for your DVD you will end up with 480p30 but still have 720p30 for archive. __________________ Tim Dashwood

January 28th, 2011, 11:02 AM	#2
Alex Savage New Boot Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 10	I've read in a couple different places that if you simply drop 24p footage into a 60fps timeline it will add the proper 3:2 pulldown without the need to convert in compressor. If that's true it would make mixing those formats in a 60fps timeline very easy. Only problem is it seems you need to work in a 30fps timeline to achieve 50% slow motion with real frames. I'm converting one of my clips from 24 to 30 in compressor now and it's taking forever! Don't want to have to do this every time just to get some extra resolution.