7d Cineform Footage Wants Rendering at DVinfo.net

Scott Lovejoy · February 11th, 2010, 04:44 PM

Hi all,

Nothing was hitting on search, so I figured I would ask.

I've converted my 7d footage to Cineform, and I've been working with it in FCP on a single sequence. I wanted to put one of the sequences on its own timeline so I did a copy and paste of the cuts. In doing this the new timeline turned up completely red, wanting me to render everything. Would this happen because the new sequence doesn't have the same settings as the original?

Andrew Kimery · February 11th, 2010, 07:37 PM

Yes. Also, I would recommend ProRes over Cineform for use w/FCP. Cineform isn't a 'blessed' codec by Apple so it doesn't get the playback enhancement of FCPs Real Time render engine the way codecs like ProRes, DVCPro HD, HDV, etc., do.

-Andrew

Nigel Barker · February 12th, 2010, 06:36 AM

There are other advantages to using ProRes over Cineform too. It's free as part of FCP for one thing plus you can choose from a variety of bit rates/qualities & there is even a low bit rate proxy if e.g. you are working on a MacBook & your system is not up to handling large proRes files. You cannot use Colour with standard Cineform either but must pay $500 for Neoform HD which includes First Light which is a similar colour grading application.

Scott Lovejoy · February 13th, 2010, 11:38 AM

Thanks.

The whole "blessed" codec thing explains why FCP stuttered on clip playback. Converting everything via Streamclip now.

Michael Maier · February 17th, 2010, 08:48 PM

Yeah, there are many advantages in using Prores, but are there any in using Cineform? Is it really better than Prores? I hear it is better than HDCAM SR.

February 11th, 2010, 04:44 PM	#1
Scott Lovejoy Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 73	7d Cineform Footage Wants Rendering Hi all, Nothing was hitting on search, so I figured I would ask. I've converted my 7d footage to Cineform, and I've been working with it in FCP on a single sequence. I wanted to put one of the sequences on its own timeline so I did a copy and paste of the cuts. In doing this the new timeline turned up completely red, wanting me to render everything. Would this happen because the new sequence doesn't have the same settings as the original?

February 11th, 2010, 07:37 PM	#2
Andrew Kimery Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	Yes. Also, I would recommend ProRes over Cineform for use w/FCP. Cineform isn't a 'blessed' codec by Apple so it doesn't get the playback enhancement of FCPs Real Time render engine the way codecs like ProRes, DVCPro HD, HDV, etc., do. -Andrew

February 12th, 2010, 06:36 AM	#3
Nigel Barker Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Posts: 3,531	There are other advantages to using ProRes over Cineform too. It's free as part of FCP for one thing plus you can choose from a variety of bit rates/qualities & there is even a low bit rate proxy if e.g. you are working on a MacBook & your system is not up to handling large proRes files. You cannot use Colour with standard Cineform either but must pay $500 for Neoform HD which includes First Light which is a similar colour grading application.

February 13th, 2010, 11:38 AM	#4
Scott Lovejoy Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 73	Thanks. The whole "blessed" codec thing explains why FCP stuttered on clip playback. Converting everything via Streamclip now.

February 17th, 2010, 08:48 PM	#5
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Yeah, there are many advantages in using Prores, but are there any in using Cineform? Is it really better than Prores? I hear it is better than HDCAM SR.