iMovie questions

Dan Brown · January 10th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Whew! Thank you very much. I don't want to spend all that time capturing to my HD if it's in the wrong format. FCE2 should be in the stores any day now. I'll leave the video on tape for now.

Rich Sheikh · January 24th, 2004, 11:33 AM

iMovie....Sundance Film Festival

Wrangler Note [JL]: Article removed. Please follow this link to read the original.

Stylianos Moschapidakis · January 24th, 2004, 12:00 PM

Great story! And it proves what they say about the art of filmmaking: it's not the equipment you use, it's the story you tell.

Indeed iMovie may not be, what people call, a "professional" NLE program but the truth is that working with limitations can bring out the best of one's creativity.

Diane Bogosian · January 24th, 2004, 03:51 PM

Thanks for posting this great story. It is a reminder to work with what you have and improvise. I can slip into thinking I can't make a "real film" until I have this or that equipment, or have access to SFX CDs, or acquire this or that software.

So I have set a goal for myself to do one really crappy short short a month. The crappier, the better. If I finish it and it sucks, I've succeeded. If I don't finish it, but the idea is still brilliant, I've failed.

I doubt if Cauette cared about what other people would think, or if he was using a cartoid vs an omni mic and so on. The irony is that it seems you really have to be passionate and oblivious to 'reality' to do something that gets this kind of critical attention...you can "decide" to be passionate and oblivious because that's how great work gets done...

"Great work" being, I guess, the opposite of what most of us do in this business, which is to make an actual living, in which case you might really want to know the difference between a cartoid and an omni, and you better worry about what someone else thinks, especially if she is your client...

And onward!

Stylianos Moschapidakis · January 24th, 2004, 07:26 PM

<<<--So I have set a goal for myself to do one really crappy short short a month. The crappier, the better. If I finish it and it sucks, I've succeeded. If I don't finish it, but the idea is still brilliant, I've failed.-->>>

Diane, I am with you 100%. Great attitude! Keep it up! I'd like to see one or more of your shorts.

Diane Bogosian · January 24th, 2004, 11:22 PM

>>Diane, I am with you 100%. Great attitude! Keep it up! I'd like to see one or more of your shorts.<<

SHOW them to OTHER people?
(I haven't advanced to that stage of enlightenment yet. :)

Actually, Stylianos, that's a great topic for discussion: showing your stuff to others, and how to get "tournament tough."

Grant McClintock · March 2nd, 2004, 04:28 PM

Is there any discernible difference in the quality of the fianl out put (say to DVD) bewteen iMovie and FCE (assuming the same simple basic transitions and ignoring titles)? Or is the advantage of FCE more options and more flexibility.

Thanks, Grant McClintock

Glenn Chan · March 2nd, 2004, 06:02 PM

There shouldn't be a quality difference, unless you apply some filters that iMovie doesn't have (like color correction filters).

iMovie is great for short projects, but I've found iMovie2 to be catastrophic for large complicated projects (somehow people in my high school had half their media disappear).

Patricia Kim · March 2nd, 2004, 10:23 PM

Taking this thread a little off track to note that for iMovie it's really important not to empty iMovie trash while editing and to be sure you have enough disk space with which to work. iMovie does not fall into the "nondestructive" NLE category. iMovie upgrades all seem to end up being dubbed "the worst yet," but I've had almost no problems with it (in version 3.03) and there are lots of nice, relatively inexpensive plug-ins on the market .

Joe Gioielli · March 11th, 2004, 12:16 PM

I am trying to make a a filmstrip in imovie. I am using photos from my iphoto library. When I drag a photo to the timeline, i create two photos in the time line.

Say I have the duration set for 5 seconds. I click on a picture of a bridge and drag it to the timeline I get two 5 second photos of the bridge. The two pictures are not linked, I can move them around the timeline. I just can't find out what is causing this.

Any thoughts would be a help.

Joe

Jeff Donald · March 11th, 2004, 12:42 PM

I don't use iMovie or iPhoto much, but I've never seen it duplicating images unless copied and pasted etc. Have you tried installing iMovie again? Have you added any plugins etc. recently that might be causing a conflict?

Joe Gioielli · March 11th, 2004, 02:16 PM

No. I'm not on the net so I haven't installed any plug ins.

I haven't reinstalled it. It came installed and I'll have to check the manual to see how to reinstall if I want to go that route. I want to avoid that if I can.

I'll keep pokeing around. I must have done something to cause it.

Thanks
Joe

Patricia Kim · March 11th, 2004, 02:56 PM

I use iMovie and iPhoto, but have never seen this issue discussed. One thing that everyone tells you to do when you run into unusual problems is to trash your preferences (in this case, for both iMovie and iPhoto) and repair permissions, then try again. Oops. Just remembered something. You say you are dragging the photo. The way I import a photo is to make sure the Ken Burns effect is turned off, set the duration, and then click on apply. That sends the photo to the end of the timeline. Possibly if you are dragging the photo as well, that is why you're getting a duplicate?

Joe Gioielli · March 11th, 2004, 05:45 PM

I bet your right, Kim. I'll check that.

Thanks

March 26th, 2004, 04:20 PM

I did some intensive editing with Imovie 3 and found out that you should either do one of two things:

empty the trash regularly before it get's too big

or

don't empty it at all.

If it get's too large and you empty it, you will run the risk of corrupting
the entire file. It happened to me. Be careful.

Good luck,
Dan

January 10th, 2004, 08:32 PM	#91
Dan Brown Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 235	Whew! Thank you very much. I don't want to spend all that time capturing to my HD if it's in the wrong format. FCE2 should be in the stores any day now. I'll leave the video on tape for now. __________________ dB

January 24th, 2004, 11:33 AM	#92
Rich Sheikh Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 34	iMovie....Sundance Film Festival iMovie....Sundance Film Festival Wrangler Note [JL]: Article removed. Please follow this link to read the original.

January 24th, 2004, 12:00 PM	#93
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	Great story! And it proves what they say about the art of filmmaking: it's not the equipment you use, it's the story you tell. Indeed iMovie may not be, what people call, a "professional" NLE program but the truth is that working with limitations can bring out the best of one's creativity. __________________ Stelios G.M.

January 24th, 2004, 07:26 PM	#95
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	<<<--So I have set a goal for myself to do one really crappy short short a month. The crappier, the better. If I finish it and it sucks, I've succeeded. If I don't finish it, but the idea is still brilliant, I've failed.-->>> Diane, I am with you 100%. Great attitude! Keep it up! I'd like to see one or more of your shorts. __________________ Stelios G.M.

March 2nd, 2004, 04:28 PM	#97
Grant McClintock Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK, United States Posts: 28	iMovie & FCE Is there any discernible difference in the quality of the fianl out put (say to DVD) bewteen iMovie and FCE (assuming the same simple basic transitions and ignoring titles)? Or is the advantage of FCE more options and more flexibility. Thanks, Grant McClintock

January 24th, 2004, 03:51 PM	#94
Diane Bogosian Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 55	Thanks for posting this great story. It is a reminder to work with what you have and improvise. I can slip into thinking I can't make a "real film" until I have this or that equipment, or have access to SFX CDs, or acquire this or that software. So I have set a goal for myself to do one really crappy short short a month. The crappier, the better. If I finish it and it sucks, I've succeeded. If I don't finish it, but the idea is still brilliant, I've failed. I doubt if Cauette cared about what other people would think, or if he was using a cartoid vs an omni mic and so on. The irony is that it seems you really have to be passionate and oblivious to 'reality' to do something that gets this kind of critical attention...you can "decide" to be passionate and oblivious because that's how great work gets done... "Great work" being, I guess, the opposite of what most of us do in this business, which is to make an actual living, in which case you might really want to know the difference between a cartoid and an omni, and you better worry about what someone else thinks, especially if she is your client... And onward!

January 24th, 2004, 11:22 PM	#96
Diane Bogosian Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 55	>>Diane, I am with you 100%. Great attitude! Keep it up! I'd like to see one or more of your shorts.<< SHOW them to OTHER people? (I haven't advanced to that stage of enlightenment yet. :) Actually, Stylianos, that's a great topic for discussion: showing your stuff to others, and how to get "tournament tough."

March 2nd, 2004, 06:02 PM	#98
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	There shouldn't be a quality difference, unless you apply some filters that iMovie doesn't have (like color correction filters). iMovie is great for short projects, but I've found iMovie2 to be catastrophic for large complicated projects (somehow people in my high school had half their media disappear).

March 2nd, 2004, 10:23 PM	#99
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Taking this thread a little off track to note that for iMovie it's really important not to empty iMovie trash while editing and to be sure you have enough disk space with which to work. iMovie does not fall into the "nondestructive" NLE category. iMovie upgrades all seem to end up being dubbed "the worst yet," but I've had almost no problems with it (in version 3.03) and there are lots of nice, relatively inexpensive plug-ins on the market .

March 11th, 2004, 12:16 PM	#100
Joe Gioielli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Port Richey, Fl Posts: 142	imovie guestion I am trying to make a a filmstrip in imovie. I am using photos from my iphoto library. When I drag a photo to the timeline, i create two photos in the time line. Say I have the duration set for 5 seconds. I click on a picture of a bridge and drag it to the timeline I get two 5 second photos of the bridge. The two pictures are not linked, I can move them around the timeline. I just can't find out what is causing this. Any thoughts would be a help. Joe __________________ Why ask me? I thought you were in charge!

March 11th, 2004, 12:42 PM	#101
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I don't use iMovie or iPhoto much, but I've never seen it duplicating images unless copied and pasted etc. Have you tried installing iMovie again? Have you added any plugins etc. recently that might be causing a conflict? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 11th, 2004, 02:16 PM	#102
Joe Gioielli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Port Richey, Fl Posts: 142	No. I'm not on the net so I haven't installed any plug ins. I haven't reinstalled it. It came installed and I'll have to check the manual to see how to reinstall if I want to go that route. I want to avoid that if I can. I'll keep pokeing around. I must have done something to cause it. Thanks Joe __________________ Why ask me? I thought you were in charge!

March 11th, 2004, 02:56 PM	#103
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	I use iMovie and iPhoto, but have never seen this issue discussed. One thing that everyone tells you to do when you run into unusual problems is to trash your preferences (in this case, for both iMovie and iPhoto) and repair permissions, then try again. Oops. Just remembered something. You say you are dragging the photo. The way I import a photo is to make sure the Ken Burns effect is turned off, set the duration, and then click on apply. That sends the photo to the end of the timeline. Possibly if you are dragging the photo as well, that is why you're getting a duplicate?

March 11th, 2004, 05:45 PM	#104
Joe Gioielli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Port Richey, Fl Posts: 142	I bet your right, Kim. I'll check that. Thanks __________________ Why ask me? I thought you were in charge!

March 26th, 2004, 04:20 PM	#105
Guest Posts: n/a	I aggree.. I did some intensive editing with Imovie 3 and found out that you should either do one of two things: empty the trash regularly before it get's too big or don't empty it at all. If it get's too large and you empty it, you will run the risk of corrupting the entire file. It happened to me. Be careful. Good luck, Dan