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Alain Aguilar · December 5th, 2004, 11:39 PM

I'm about to go buy FCHD and plan to install it on a G4. I also have a laptop that I would like to use to edit my project when I'm not at the studio. Will it be sufficient with one purchase or do I need two??

Thanks

Shane Ross · December 5th, 2004, 11:49 PM

Two machines...two copies of FCP.

If you want to stay legal.

Boyd Ostroff · December 6th, 2004, 08:23 AM

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/finalcutpro.html

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2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time. This includes the right to transfer your copy of the Apple Software licensed hereunder from an Apple G4 hardware platform to an Apple G5 platform.

Alain Aguilar · December 6th, 2004, 11:53 AM

Thanks for the clarification. I'll get one license and use a prevoius version that I already have on my notebook.

Thanks

Alfred Okocha · December 6th, 2004, 01:02 PM

You are very honest indeed! Personally I find it an aburdity that you wouldn't be able to use in private on two (private) computers.. but cudos to You!

Mark Sloan · December 6th, 2004, 02:46 PM

Programs like Photoshop (at least used to) check to see that only one copy with that serial number was working at one time in a company. That way the company could buy one license, have it installed on many computers, but could only be used one at a time...

Alain Aguilar · December 6th, 2004, 11:36 PM

"Programs like Photoshop (at least used to) check to see that only one copy with that serial number was working at one time in a company. That way the company could buy one license, have it installed on many computers, but could only be used one at a time..."

If these multiple computers were running on a shared network I suppose.

This brings me to this question, would the FC install require some kind of Internet activation?

Alex Ratson · December 7th, 2004, 02:45 AM

FCPHD works the same way PS CS works with regards to multiple copy’s running. When on a shared network with the same copy of FCPHD loaded on multiple computers only one machine can run it at a time. Not to say you could not terminate the network connection though. If you had a different copy of FCPHD loaded on each individual computer then you will not run into this.

Aaron Koolen · December 7th, 2004, 05:13 AM

Wow, that really sucks. A lot of other software allows you to install on one machine, and one more "secondary" machine provided it's used by the one owner. This helps with situations like yours with one desktop and a laptop. Bummer.

Mark Sloan · December 7th, 2004, 02:45 PM

"If these multiple computers were running on a shared network I suppose."
Yeah, it was based on Appletalk when I last had to deal with it (Mac OS9 computers), you could just turn Appletalk off and you could run multiple instances, but the business I worked on this for was all about following the letter of the law in this case. When it finally became a nuisance to figure out who could work on Photoshop when, they bought a 10 license package and Adobe even let them split it across 8 Macs and 2 PCs.

Kurth Bousman · December 7th, 2004, 07:17 PM

Have you guys ever seen the "Apple Police " in the flesh ?

Alain Aguilar · December 7th, 2004, 09:05 PM

"Thanks for the clarification. I'll get one license and use a prevoius version that I already have on my notebook."

I could defentelly turn AppleTalk off most of the time (except when I'm printing) being this the case let me add this to my prevoius post ---> ;)

Richard Alvarez · December 8th, 2004, 08:23 AM

AVID uses a dongle. They ship with MAC and PC copies , so you can put it on more that one machine. But with one dongle, one program is running. Install it as many times as you want, but it only runs with the dongle attached. That has it's own problems if you lose or break the dongle.

Mark Sloan · December 8th, 2004, 09:42 AM

Apple doesn't enforce it themselves, there is a special section in law enforcement that will come in, check your licenses, and write up fines. It is usually an ex-employee that calls the company who then calls law enforcement. I cannot remember the official name of the enforcement group though...

The boss had a friend whose company was investigated (only 20 employees) and was fined a significant sum... hence, his wanting to follow the rules closely...

Lee Wm. Gaudry · January 12th, 2005, 05:35 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kurth Bousman : Have you guys ever seen the "Apple Police " in the flesh ? -->>>

Ya weren't they the ones pursuing Anya Major in Ridley Scott's Macintosh Debut commercial?

December 5th, 2004, 11:39 PM	#1
Alain Aguilar Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Bergen Posts: 170	How many Macs I'm about to go buy FCHD and plan to install it on a G4. I also have a laptop that I would like to use to edit my project when I'm not at the studio. Will it be sufficient with one purchase or do I need two?? Thanks __________________ Alain

December 6th, 2004, 11:53 AM	#4
Alain Aguilar Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Bergen Posts: 170	Thanks for the clarification. I'll get one license and use a prevoius version that I already have on my notebook. Thanks __________________ Alain

December 6th, 2004, 11:36 PM	#7
Alain Aguilar Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Bergen Posts: 170	"Programs like Photoshop (at least used to) check to see that only one copy with that serial number was working at one time in a company. That way the company could buy one license, have it installed on many computers, but could only be used one at a time..." If these multiple computers were running on a shared network I suppose. This brings me to this question, would the FC install require some kind of Internet activation? __________________ Alain

December 7th, 2004, 05:13 AM	#9
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Wow, that really sucks. A lot of other software allows you to install on one machine, and one more "secondary" machine provided it's used by the one owner. This helps with situations like yours with one desktop and a laptop. Bummer. __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

December 7th, 2004, 09:05 PM	#12
Alain Aguilar Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Bergen Posts: 170	"Thanks for the clarification. I'll get one license and use a prevoius version that I already have on my notebook." I could defentelly turn AppleTalk off most of the time (except when I'm printing) being this the case let me add this to my prevoius post ---> ;) __________________ Alain

December 5th, 2004, 11:49 PM	#2
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	Two machines...two copies of FCP. If you want to stay legal.

December 6th, 2004, 01:02 PM	#5
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	You are very honest indeed! Personally I find it an aburdity that you wouldn't be able to use in private on two (private) computers.. but cudos to You!

December 6th, 2004, 02:46 PM	#6
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Programs like Photoshop (at least used to) check to see that only one copy with that serial number was working at one time in a company. That way the company could buy one license, have it installed on many computers, but could only be used one at a time...

December 7th, 2004, 02:45 AM	#8
Alex Ratson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Squamish, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 149	FCPHD works the same way PS CS works with regards to multiple copy’s running. When on a shared network with the same copy of FCPHD loaded on multiple computers only one machine can run it at a time. Not to say you could not terminate the network connection though. If you had a different copy of FCPHD loaded on each individual computer then you will not run into this.

December 7th, 2004, 02:45 PM	#10
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	"If these multiple computers were running on a shared network I suppose." Yeah, it was based on Appletalk when I last had to deal with it (Mac OS9 computers), you could just turn Appletalk off and you could run multiple instances, but the business I worked on this for was all about following the letter of the law in this case. When it finally became a nuisance to figure out who could work on Photoshop when, they bought a 10 license package and Adobe even let them split it across 8 Macs and 2 PCs.

December 7th, 2004, 07:17 PM	#11
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	Have you guys ever seen the "Apple Police " in the flesh ?

December 8th, 2004, 08:23 AM	#13
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	AVID uses a dongle. They ship with MAC and PC copies , so you can put it on more that one machine. But with one dongle, one program is running. Install it as many times as you want, but it only runs with the dongle attached. That has it's own problems if you lose or break the dongle.

December 8th, 2004, 09:42 AM	#14
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Apple doesn't enforce it themselves, there is a special section in law enforcement that will come in, check your licenses, and write up fines. It is usually an ex-employee that calls the company who then calls law enforcement. I cannot remember the official name of the enforcement group though... The boss had a friend whose company was investigated (only 20 employees) and was fined a significant sum... hence, his wanting to follow the rules closely...

January 12th, 2005, 05:35 PM	#15
Lee Wm. Gaudry New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 7	1984 <<<-- Originally posted by Kurth Bousman : Have you guys ever seen the "Apple Police " in the flesh ? -->>> Ya weren't they the ones pursuing Anya Major in Ridley Scott's Macintosh Debut commercial? __________________ Moooooo!