NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2005 at DVinfo.net

Pam Timpson · September 27th, 2004, 05:48 AM

Durability of external harddrives

I am running away to a faraway place that is humid and inhospitable to computers to log an absurd amount of footage from a seven year documentary. I am using a titanium G4 laptop that is finicky about firewire. I plan to log from deck to laptop and then save it on external drives. Questions: 1) Are some external firewire harddrive models/brands more reliabe/durable than others. If so, which takes a licking and keeps on ticking? 2) Which is more reliable/durable 4-250 drives or 1-raid terra bite? Many thanks!

Donie Kelly · October 5th, 2004, 07:23 PM

Hi all

Just wondering if there is a way to playback the timeline both on my powebook and to firewire (to an external tv via camera) at the same time.

It looks like it's either one or the other.

Also, the clips in the timeline do not require rendering to playback on the powerbook but when I send to external video via firewire it show as requiring rendering (I've added a colour correction). Is there any way for it to just give me preview quality via firewire??? It's really a nusiance having to render everything all the time just to view on an external monitor.

Any help appreciated....
Donie

Donal Briard · October 9th, 2004, 01:24 AM

After Apostolos Nikolakopoulos' rant on lumiereHD, I started playing around with a friend's JVC HDV camera and Final Cut Pro 4.5HD. I soon realised that any other software is totally unnecessary.

1- I used Apple's DVHSCap (from their latest FireWire SDK, available on their Apple.com developer's site for free) to capture a few minute of footage.

2- I DL Mpeg Streamline from versiontracker.com (freeware) and used it to DEmux the .m2t transport stream clips into .aiff + .m2v files. This does not alter your tracks, it separates them. Then, delete the .m2t for extra space.

3-I open the .m2v clips and using QT Pro with MPEG2 component (which I would guess everybody working in fcp has) and Export to DVCPRO HD 1280X720p frame rate is 29.97 just as my .m2v was in quicktime (it wasn't 30). The file I end up with is, to naked eye) A CARBON COPY OF MY MASTER (quality-wise) even when blown up to 200%.

4- I import that .mov DVCPRO HD clip into FCP and edit away in real time!

Michael Bendixen · October 14th, 2004, 03:01 PM

My editing process involves a lot of transcipting, so I can collobrate with technical advisors across the country. Does anybody have any words on making my transcripting process more efficient, it's quite a laborious process. Is there technology that can help with this?

Thanks,

Michael

Heath Hays · October 26th, 2004, 01:18 PM

ive been having this problem. after capturing a few minutes of tape, i playback the footage in fcp. each time I get about 4 seconds of a gray matte looking image while my audio has already started. then my video starts to come in, you guessed it, 4 seconds late. what is going on?

heath

Christopher Lefchik · October 29th, 2004, 07:19 PM

While searching for a freeware utility for Windows to view the date/time of a DV file I stumbled across one for Mac OS X. I thought I would share it with you Mac users in case it would be of help to any of you. It's called DVFileDateCM, and can be downloaded from http://www.trixsoftware.com/DVFileDateCM.html.

Oh, and if any of you would happen to know of something similar for Windows I would be grateful. I came up empty handed. You can reply to my original thread here.

Menguc Tanriseven · November 1st, 2004, 02:40 AM

The reds and oranges in my footage looks fine on the monitor but when I capture it (or even when just viewing them in the capture viewer screen) on FCP on mac, or Imovie, the reds and oranges have halos around and jagged stairstepping look.
Everything look fine on the camera viewer and playing the footage on TV, but when it comes to viewing on computer it gets massy.
Here are two examples as what it looks like:
http://home.comcast.net/~toddgunnerson/vidhelp/shirt.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~toddgunnerson/vidhelp/lamp.jpg

I am shooting in Advanced 24P and capturing in 24p advanced pull down. Is this something related to compression?
I would appreciate your help
thanks for reading.
matt

Anthony Faust · November 7th, 2004, 05:30 PM

Greetings everyone,

I have this problem. I shot my video on a DVX 100 Panasonic camera in 24P Standard mode, thick. I have Final Cut Pro 3. I'm editing on a 29.97 timeline and I imported the media as 29.97. When I put video clips on the timeline, it plays back fine and I don't have to render it.

However, when I adjust the speed of a clip, e.g. I change the speed from 100% to 75%, thereby making the clip longer and forcing me to render it, the playback of the video becomes blurry. When I take the video and reverse it, it does the same thing.

I'm thinking it's because I'm not using a 24p timeline. Apparently that feature is not available in FCP 3, but available in FCP 4. When I adjust the speed of a clip, it probably has to "blend" in the frames and because the media is 24 frames and I'm editing on a 29.97 timeline, that throws it out of wack and that's why it's blurry

Can anyone help me solve this problem?

Thanks,

Anthony Faust

Deron Bauman · November 7th, 2004, 11:48 PM

Anyone have any information about when final cut pro will support the sony fx1 without a third party add on to capture the video?

Kurth Bousman · November 8th, 2004, 09:53 PM

hello - I just upgraded my old g3 to jaguar from os9.1 on a 6 gig partitioned HD- half running the OS and half running FCP. This computer was configured by a dealer and it has 4 x 25g ata66 deskstars . I also upgraded fcp to v3 from v1.25 on the other side. the good news is that it runs fcp 3 like a champ - the bad news is I've lost my 100 gigs of storage. When I installed jaguar , it told me that it would have to erase to install. So I figure I've lost the drivers . Would it be easier to buy some new ata's since the controller is in place? Do they come with new software ? Or a firewire? They're alot cheaper now than when these 25 gigs were the top of the heap . Thanks for any ideas . Kurth

Bernard Ong · November 18th, 2004, 10:00 PM

hi ppl..

planning to get a dual 2.5....
wanted to get the graphics card to Geforce 9800 ultra with 256 Ram...

(a) apparently, some ppl are telling me that its unstable...
true? anyone?

(b) or is the Radeon 6800 or the Geforce 9800 sufficient?

thks,
bernard
(singapore)

Alfred Okocha · November 25th, 2004, 12:41 PM

After recently upgrading to 4.5 I suddenly realised that the F9 and F10 commans didn't work anymore.. (or they weren't working as supposed anyway..) has anybody else had the same problem?

Daniel Berube · November 27th, 2004, 10:56 PM

Spread Holiday Cheer with the BOSFCPUG!

The Boston Final Cut Pro User Group, HB Communications and Boris FX invite you to combine cutting edge innovations in HD editing and motion graphics with a few cocktails while networking with Boston's filmmaking and motion design community. See firsthand the powerful features in Final Cut Pro HD, Boris Continuum Complete and Motion, Apple's high-performance motion graphic design and production application.

"HD in MOTION" Industry Event and Party
Where: Parris (enter through Ned Devine's), One Faneuil Hall Marketplace, Quincy Market Building 2nd Floor
When:_ Tuesday, December 14, 2004
Times: Doors Open at 6 pm; 6:30 pm-9:30 pm; party following with DJ music
Cost: $5 donation (open to the public)

Join us for presentations on how three time Academy Award-winning editor Walter Murch uses Final Cut Pro and what this means for Cinema; how Apple's motion graphics software MOTION works as a creative powerhouse with plug-ins like Boris Continuum Complete; and how AJA's new Kona 2 capture card was used with Final Cut Pro HD to cover baseball from the MLB Division Series through the World Series Championship Games.

After the presentations, stay for a party to socialize with your peers and enjoy the music.

Complimentary hors d'oeuvres and a cash bar will be available throughout the evening. After the presentations, stay to socialize with your peers, pick the brains of industry gurus or just enjoy the music. Holiday Raffle features the AJA Io LD, the new FireStore FS-4 portable hard disk recorder, Boris Continuum Complete and other cool prizes.

For complete info and to register to attend, please visit:
http://www.bosfcpug.org

See you December 14th!

Gary Chavez · January 3rd, 2005, 09:39 AM

Does FCP4 recognize ClipLink?

I wanna buy one of those tapes for my Ike 7 to experiment, seems like it could be handy if it works.
It creates a thumbnail with recird info everytime you hit the rec button, is that right?
But if you still have to digitize the tape to see the thumbnalis, whats the advantage?
thanks.

Scott Anderson · January 4th, 2005, 08:57 AM

Phoenix area FCP Users! Please join us on January 12th from 6:30-9:00pm for the new AZ FCP User Group.

Take this opportunity to get in on the ground floor with a new User Group. Not only will this month's meeting be very informative, but we will make some exciting announcements about upcoming events through NAB in April.

Here's the link to the flyer for the 01/12 meeting. Feel free to pass this along to anyone interested in FCP.

http://members.cox.net/azscott/AZFCP...2005_small.jpg

(mods: If this is the wrong place to post this, please use my contact info on the flyer)

September 27th, 2004, 05:48 AM	#1
Pam Timpson New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: jersey City, NJ Posts: 8	NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2005 Durability of external harddrives I am running away to a faraway place that is humid and inhospitable to computers to log an absurd amount of footage from a seven year documentary. I am using a titanium G4 laptop that is finicky about firewire. I plan to log from deck to laptop and then save it on external drives. Questions: 1) Are some external firewire harddrive models/brands more reliabe/durable than others. If so, which takes a licking and keeps on ticking? 2) Which is more reliable/durable 4-250 drives or 1-raid terra bite? Many thanks!

October 5th, 2004, 07:23 PM	#2
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	External video Hi all Just wondering if there is a way to playback the timeline both on my powebook and to firewire (to an external tv via camera) at the same time. It looks like it's either one or the other. Also, the clips in the timeline do not require rendering to playback on the powerbook but when I send to external video via firewire it show as requiring rendering (I've added a colour correction). Is there any way for it to just give me preview quality via firewire??? It's really a nusiance having to render everything all the time just to view on an external monitor. Any help appreciated.... Donie __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

October 9th, 2004, 01:24 AM	#3
Donal Briard Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 43	LumiereHD not needed, edit JVC HDV for free TODAY After Apostolos Nikolakopoulos' rant on lumiereHD, I started playing around with a friend's JVC HDV camera and Final Cut Pro 4.5HD. I soon realised that any other software is totally unnecessary. 1- I used Apple's DVHSCap (from their latest FireWire SDK, available on their Apple.com developer's site for free) to capture a few minute of footage. 2- I DL Mpeg Streamline from versiontracker.com (freeware) and used it to DEmux the .m2t transport stream clips into .aiff + .m2v files. This does not alter your tracks, it separates them. Then, delete the .m2t for extra space. 3-I open the .m2v clips and using QT Pro with MPEG2 component (which I would guess everybody working in fcp has) and Export to DVCPRO HD 1280X720p frame rate is 29.97 just as my .m2v was in quicktime (it wasn't 30). The file I end up with is, to naked eye) A CARBON COPY OF MY MASTER (quality-wise) even when blown up to 200%. 4- I import that .mov DVCPRO HD clip into FCP and edit away in real time!

October 14th, 2004, 03:01 PM	#4
Michael Bendixen Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 109	transcripting advice My editing process involves a lot of transcipting, so I can collobrate with technical advisors across the country. Does anybody have any words on making my transcripting process more efficient, it's quite a laborious process. Is there technology that can help with this? Thanks, Michael

October 26th, 2004, 01:18 PM	#5
Heath Hays Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 60	synchronized suicide ive been having this problem. after capturing a few minutes of tape, i playback the footage in fcp. each time I get about 4 seconds of a gray matte looking image while my audio has already started. then my video starts to come in, you guessed it, 4 seconds late. what is going on? heath __________________ Heath Hays MGD Productions

October 29th, 2004, 07:19 PM	#6
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Freeware utility to view DV file date/time While searching for a freeware utility for Windows to view the date/time of a DV file I stumbled across one for Mac OS X. I thought I would share it with you Mac users in case it would be of help to any of you. It's called DVFileDateCM, and can be downloaded from http://www.trixsoftware.com/DVFileDateCM.html. Oh, and if any of you would happen to know of something similar for Windows I would be grateful. I came up empty handed. You can reply to my original thread here.

November 1st, 2004, 02:40 AM	#7
Menguc Tanriseven Tourist Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: st louis, mo, usa Posts: 3	reds and oranges The reds and oranges in my footage looks fine on the monitor but when I capture it (or even when just viewing them in the capture viewer screen) on FCP on mac, or Imovie, the reds and oranges have halos around and jagged stairstepping look. Everything look fine on the camera viewer and playing the footage on TV, but when it comes to viewing on computer it gets massy. Here are two examples as what it looks like: http://home.comcast.net/~toddgunnerson/vidhelp/shirt.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~toddgunnerson/vidhelp/lamp.jpg I am shooting in Advanced 24P and capturing in 24p advanced pull down. Is this something related to compression? I would appreciate your help thanks for reading. matt

November 7th, 2004, 05:30 PM	#8
Anthony Faust New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 24	24p video looks blurry in FCP 3 Greetings everyone, I have this problem. I shot my video on a DVX 100 Panasonic camera in 24P Standard mode, thick. I have Final Cut Pro 3. I'm editing on a 29.97 timeline and I imported the media as 29.97. When I put video clips on the timeline, it plays back fine and I don't have to render it. However, when I adjust the speed of a clip, e.g. I change the speed from 100% to 75%, thereby making the clip longer and forcing me to render it, the playback of the video becomes blurry. When I take the video and reverse it, it does the same thing. I'm thinking it's because I'm not using a 24p timeline. Apparently that feature is not available in FCP 3, but available in FCP 4. When I adjust the speed of a clip, it probably has to "blend" in the frames and because the media is 24 frames and I'm editing on a 29.97 timeline, that throws it out of wack and that's why it's blurry Can anyone help me solve this problem? Thanks, Anthony Faust

November 7th, 2004, 11:48 PM	#9
Deron Bauman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 30	fcp and fx1 Anyone have any information about when final cut pro will support the sony fx1 without a third party add on to capture the video? __________________ -- elimae.com : deronbauman.com : lighwell.org

November 8th, 2004, 09:53 PM	#10
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	upgraded g3 b&w and lost ata 66 drives-any ideas ? hello - I just upgraded my old g3 to jaguar from os9.1 on a 6 gig partitioned HD- half running the OS and half running FCP. This computer was configured by a dealer and it has 4 x 25g ata66 deskstars . I also upgraded fcp to v3 from v1.25 on the other side. the good news is that it runs fcp 3 like a champ - the bad news is I've lost my 100 gigs of storage. When I installed jaguar , it told me that it would have to erase to install. So I figure I've lost the drivers . Would it be easier to buy some new ata's since the controller is in place? Do they come with new software ? Or a firewire? They're alot cheaper now than when these 25 gigs were the top of the heap . Thanks for any ideas . Kurth

November 18th, 2004, 10:00 PM	#11
Bernard Ong New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7	using motion and FCP hi ppl.. planning to get a dual 2.5.... wanted to get the graphics card to Geforce 9800 ultra with 256 Ram... (a) apparently, some ppl are telling me that its unstable... true? anyone? (b) or is the Radeon 6800 or the Geforce 9800 sufficient? thks, bernard (singapore)

November 25th, 2004, 12:41 PM	#12
Alfred Okocha Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 427	FCP 4.5 shortcut problems After recently upgrading to 4.5 I suddenly realised that the F9 and F10 commans didn't work anymore.. (or they weren't working as supposed anyway..) has anybody else had the same problem?

November 27th, 2004, 10:56 PM	#13
Daniel Berube Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 91	"HD in MOTION" Industry Event Spread Holiday Cheer with the BOSFCPUG! The Boston Final Cut Pro User Group, HB Communications and Boris FX invite you to combine cutting edge innovations in HD editing and motion graphics with a few cocktails while networking with Boston's filmmaking and motion design community. See firsthand the powerful features in Final Cut Pro HD, Boris Continuum Complete and Motion, Apple's high-performance motion graphic design and production application. "HD in MOTION" Industry Event and Party Where: Parris (enter through Ned Devine's), One Faneuil Hall Marketplace, Quincy Market Building 2nd Floor When:_ Tuesday, December 14, 2004 Times: Doors Open at 6 pm; 6:30 pm-9:30 pm; party following with DJ music Cost: $5 donation (open to the public) Join us for presentations on how three time Academy Award-winning editor Walter Murch uses Final Cut Pro and what this means for Cinema; how Apple's motion graphics software MOTION works as a creative powerhouse with plug-ins like Boris Continuum Complete; and how AJA's new Kona 2 capture card was used with Final Cut Pro HD to cover baseball from the MLB Division Series through the World Series Championship Games. After the presentations, stay for a party to socialize with your peers and enjoy the music. Complimentary hors d'oeuvres and a cash bar will be available throughout the evening. After the presentations, stay to socialize with your peers, pick the brains of industry gurus or just enjoy the music. Holiday Raffle features the AJA Io LD, the new FireStore FS-4 portable hard disk recorder, Boris Continuum Complete and other cool prizes. For complete info and to register to attend, please visit: http://www.bosfcpug.org See you December 14th! __________________ Daniel Bérubé • BOSFCPUG http://www.bosfcpug.org

January 3rd, 2005, 09:39 AM	#14
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	ClipLink question Does FCP4 recognize ClipLink? I wanna buy one of those tapes for my Ike 7 to experiment, seems like it could be handy if it works. It creates a thumbnail with recird info everytime you hit the rec button, is that right? But if you still have to digitize the tape to see the thumbnalis, whats the advantage? thanks.

January 4th, 2005, 08:57 AM	#15
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	AZ FCP User Group Meeting: 01/12 Phoenix area FCP Users! Please join us on January 12th from 6:30-9:00pm for the new AZ FCP User Group. Take this opportunity to get in on the ground floor with a new User Group. Not only will this month's meeting be very informative, but we will make some exciting announcements about upcoming events through NAB in April. Here's the link to the flyer for the 01/12 meeting. Feel free to pass this along to anyone interested in FCP. http://members.cox.net/azscott/AZFCP...2005_small.jpg (mods: If this is the wrong place to post this, please use my contact info on the flyer)