NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Ryan Davey · October 23rd, 2004, 07:47 PM

I'm in a really tight timeline so any help would be greatly appreciated, I can't move ahead until this is resolved! Just wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with this...

I created a timeline in Adobe Premier Pro 1.5 for a project I'm currently working on. The timeline is rough cut, and I'm having an editor friend of mine go through and put some finishing touches on it.

My friend is editing on a MAC using Media 100. As a test, I exported a finished timeline from another project as an EDL, and when he imports it, it works fine.

When he tries to import the timeline for my new project from an EDL that I exported in Premier, it comes back with errors. The error log shows, "Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)".

We compared the two EDL lists side by side, and they look virtually the same. The only noticable different was that the clip names in the file that doesn't work have underscores in them. We tried removing the underscore, same problem.

If anybody has any input or ideas or experience, it would be greatly appreciated. I'll post some sample clips below...

Ryan Davey · October 23rd, 2004, 07:48 PM

Here is a samble from the EDL Import Error Log:

Errors found importing file: me.edl
Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 8: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 10: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 13: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 15: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 16: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 19: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 24: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 25: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)

it carries on to Even 220.

Ryan Davey · October 23rd, 2004, 07:49 PM

Here is a copy of the non-working EDL List... It's trunkated to keep this thread smaller.

TITLE: EDL Export
FCM: DROP FRAME

001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:09 01:00:05:12 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl
002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11
003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:12 01:00:05:12 00:00:02:03 00:00:02:03
003 Untitled V D 225 00:16:30:06 00:16:38:28 00:00:02:03 00:00:10:24
* FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: HORS map reading 01.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
004 Middle_E V C 00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 04.avi
005 Middle_E V C 00:01:03:28 00:01:05:28 00:00:12:23 00:00:14:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 05.avi
006 Middle_E V C 00:02:59:21 00:03:02:00 00:00:14:23 00:00:17:00
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 12.avi
007 Middle_E V C 00:03:15:23 00:03:17:29 00:00:17:00 00:00:19:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 13.avi
008 Middle_E V C 00:08:18:08 00:08:19:07 00:00:19:06 00:00:20:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 63.avi
009 Middle_E V C 00:08:00:12 00:08:01:14 00:00:20:06 00:00:21:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 59.avi
010 Middle_E V C 00:06:51:01 00:06:52:03 00:00:21:08 00:00:22:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 48.avi
011 Middle_E V C 00:02:18:05 00:02:19:09 00:00:22:11 00:00:23:14
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 07 Beer Pano.avi
012 Middle_E V C 00:06:32:27 00:06:34:03 00:00:23:14 00:00:24:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 43.avi
013 Middle_E V C 00:06:25:28 00:06:27:00 00:00:24:20 00:00:25:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 42.avi
014 Middle_E V C 00:06:36:16 00:06:37:20 00:00:25:23 00:00:26:27
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 44.avi
015 Middle_E V C 00:03:24:21 00:03:25:29 00:00:26:27 00:00:28:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 14.avi
016 Middle_E V C 00:05:15:06 00:05:16:10 00:00:28:06 00:00:29:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 30.avi
017 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:23:24 00:01:26:16 00:00:29:11 00:00:32:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi
018 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:40:23 00:01:45:23 00:00:32:03 00:00:37:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi
019 Middle_E AA/V C 00:09:21:02 00:09:23:18 00:00:37:03 00:00:39:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 71.avi
020 Middle_E V C 00:09:29:29 00:09:32:12 00:00:39:20 00:00:42:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
021 Middle_E AA C 00:09:29:29 00:09:33:17 00:00:39:20 00:00:43:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
022 Middle_E V C 00:09:32:12 00:09:32:12 00:00:42:03 00:00:42:03
022 Middle-1 V D 035 00:03:45:21 00:03:54:02 00:00:42:03 00:00:50:13
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
* TO CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
023 Middle-1 AA C 00:03:46:26 00:03:54:19 00:00:43:08 00:00:51:00
* FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
024 Middle-1 V C 00:03:54:02 00:03:54:02 00:00:50:13 00:00:50:13
024 Middle_E V D 035 00:10:52:28 00:11:10:04 00:00:50:13 00:01:07:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
* TO CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 79 Driving Cows in Road.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE

Ryan Davey · October 23rd, 2004, 07:50 PM

Here's is a copy of the EDL file that works...

TITLE: Main Sequence
FCM: DROP FRAME

001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02
* FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl
002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02
003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:02:02 01:00:02:02 00:00:02:02 00:00:02:02
003 Untitled V D 104 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19
* FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
004 Untitled AA C 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi
005 BL AA/V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:06 00:00:08:19 00:00:12:25
006 Untitled AA/V C 00:49:59:11 00:50:07:10 00:00:12:25 00:00:20:24
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers middle earth walking skull.avi
007 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:18 00:00:20:24 00:00:21:12
008 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:06:01 00:00:20:24 00:00:26:25
009 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:01:22 00:00:21:12 00:00:23:04
* FROM CLIP NAME: minute to minute.prtl
010 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:05 00:00:23:04 00:00:25:09
011 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:14 01:00:05:00 00:00:25:09 00:00:26:25
* FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl
012 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:00 01:00:05:00 00:00:26:25 00:00:26:25
012 Untitled V D 063 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05
* FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
013 Untitled AA C 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi
014 Untitled AA/V C 00:09:52:19 00:10:00:15 00:00:29:05 00:00:37:01
* FROM CLIP NAME: magan nick falling korkers walking.avi
015 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:16 00:00:37:01 00:00:41:17
016 Untitled V C 00:30:00:08 00:30:13:10 00:00:41:17 00:00:54:19
M2 Untitled -3000.0 00:30:00:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: timelapse arroyo.avi

Steven Andrus · October 25th, 2004, 02:24 AM

anyone know how to do this? Keep's telling me that I don't have the right hardware, but I meet all the requirements. g4, 512mb ram firewire dvd drive agp card etc

Rob Lohman · October 25th, 2004, 03:12 AM

I have no experience whatsoever with any of this, but reading the
error message it looks like the input and record sizes do not
match (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)

When I look at event 4 for example I see:

00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23

Now I assume this is: sourceIn, sourceOut, recordIn, recordOut
at 30 frames per second (doesn't matter really what you choose)

So source is: 00:00:56:19 - 00:00:54:21 = 00:00:01:28
record is: 00:00:12:23 - 00:00:10:24 = 00:00:01:29

See the difference? There is a 1 frame mismatch between the
two. Now how it got there I have no idea. But perhaps this will
get you a bit closer to what is going on.

Perhaps a program called EDLMax can help you.

Calculations:

00:00:56:19 = 1699 frames
00:00:54:21 = 1641 frames
=========================
1699 - 1641 = 58 frames = 00:00:01:28

00:00:12:23 = 383 frames
00:00:10:24 = 324 frames
========================
383 - 324 = 59 frames = 00:00:01:29

Les Wilson · October 25th, 2004, 05:32 AM

Peak comes from Bias inc not Apple. Apple has a package called Logic. I use Peak DV and find it suitable for a number of things. They have decent tech support. Contact them at www.bias-inc.com.

Justin Sammarco · October 25th, 2004, 09:34 AM

I would like to know what programs I'd need if any to do what seems to be a very simple effect for a scene. I have FCP HD and I'm not sure that if that is all we'd need...or if we'd need motion.

What we are trying to do is this:

our subject walks through a room into the bathroom. As she passes through the room (wide angle) there is a transformation of the room right behind her. Almost like a rippling wave following her and as it moves it changes the room.

I hope I described that well enough for you to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Its one shot, and the effect will be done throughout the entire movie.

We are thinking of shooting the scene once with the regular room, then changing the room and shooting it again and then overlapping the footage and adding some sort of effect to it that makes that possible. is my thinking correct about that?

sorry if the post didn't make sense. I'm going back and forth here from work to this. But I read it over and it makes sense to me.

thanks for all the help guys.

Vic Owen · October 25th, 2004, 10:40 AM

Have you tried running fsck -f and repaired your permissions? that might help. What version of FCP & OS-10?

Ryan Davey · October 25th, 2004, 02:42 PM

Thanks Rob, I'll try the EDL program and see what I can come up with, wonder why it's off by a frame?

Stylianos Moschapidakis · October 25th, 2004, 07:59 PM

I have QT 6.0.1 and now would like to purchase the Pro Key. However, I don't want to upgrade the current version of my QT Player because I don't want to mess up with iMovie (2.1.2), which i still use very often. I use my computer, almost exclusively, for video editing and so upgrades are not important to me. That said, will the current Pro Key offered by Apple work with the (relatively) outdated version of my QT?

Thank you.

Steven Andrus · October 25th, 2004, 10:45 PM

its OSX 10.3 and FCP 4, tried that, still says i don't have the right hardware...

Jeff Donald · October 26th, 2004, 05:51 AM

Call Apple support, something isn't right. It could be something with the ram. I know FCP does a ram check, but I thought that was only after the install. It would make sense to check ram prior to install as well. Do you have the Apple Ram Test CD? If so, run it over night if possible, but at the minimum for several hours and see if any errors are found.

Jeff Donald · October 26th, 2004, 06:02 AM

I don't think the QT key will work with the older version. You should look into upgrading iMovie for greater compatibility with current offerings from Apple.

Stylianos Moschapidakis · October 26th, 2004, 11:07 AM

Jeff, thank you for replying.

I think I wasn't clear enough... QT Player 6.0.1 is the version that I have on my computer now. According to Apple's site it is recommended that one upgrade to the latest version of QT Player, which is 6.5, before purchasing the Pro Key. So, my question is this... If I don't upgrade, will the Pro Key currently offered by Apple work with my QT Player 6.0.1?

October 23rd, 2004, 07:47 PM	#1471
Ryan Davey New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 9	911- Media 100 EDL Import Errors - Plz Help! I'm in a really tight timeline so any help would be greatly appreciated, I can't move ahead until this is resolved! Just wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with this... I created a timeline in Adobe Premier Pro 1.5 for a project I'm currently working on. The timeline is rough cut, and I'm having an editor friend of mine go through and put some finishing touches on it. My friend is editing on a MAC using Media 100. As a test, I exported a finished timeline from another project as an EDL, and when he imports it, it works fine. When he tries to import the timeline for my new project from an EDL that I exported in Premier, it comes back with errors. The error log shows, "Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)". We compared the two EDL lists side by side, and they look virtually the same. The only noticable different was that the clip names in the file that doesn't work have underscores in them. We tried removing the underscore, same problem. If anybody has any input or ideas or experience, it would be greatly appreciated. I'll post some sample clips below... __________________ www.aegmedia.com May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

October 23rd, 2004, 07:48 PM	#1472
Ryan Davey New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 9	Error Log Here is a samble from the EDL Import Error Log: Errors found importing file: me.edl Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 8: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 10: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 13: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 15: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 16: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 19: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 24: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) Event 25: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) it carries on to Even 220. __________________ www.aegmedia.com May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

October 23rd, 2004, 07:49 PM	#1473
Ryan Davey New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 9	Non-Working EDL List Here is a copy of the non-working EDL List... It's trunkated to keep this thread smaller. TITLE: EDL Export FCM: DROP FRAME 001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:09 01:00:05:12 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:03 * FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl 002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11 003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:12 01:00:05:12 00:00:02:03 00:00:02:03 003 Untitled V D 225 00:16:30:06 00:16:38:28 00:00:02:03 00:00:10:24 * FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl * TO CLIP NAME: HORS map reading 01.avi * BLEND, DISSOLVE 004 Middle_E V C 00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 04.avi 005 Middle_E V C 00:01:03:28 00:01:05:28 00:00:12:23 00:00:14:23 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 05.avi 006 Middle_E V C 00:02:59:21 00:03:02:00 00:00:14:23 00:00:17:00 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 12.avi 007 Middle_E V C 00:03:15:23 00:03:17:29 00:00:17:00 00:00:19:06 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 13.avi 008 Middle_E V C 00:08:18:08 00:08:19:07 00:00:19:06 00:00:20:06 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 63.avi 009 Middle_E V C 00:08:00:12 00:08:01:14 00:00:20:06 00:00:21:08 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 59.avi 010 Middle_E V C 00:06:51:01 00:06:52:03 00:00:21:08 00:00:22:11 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 48.avi 011 Middle_E V C 00:02:18:05 00:02:19:09 00:00:22:11 00:00:23:14 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 07 Beer Pano.avi 012 Middle_E V C 00:06:32:27 00:06:34:03 00:00:23:14 00:00:24:20 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 43.avi 013 Middle_E V C 00:06:25:28 00:06:27:00 00:00:24:20 00:00:25:23 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 42.avi 014 Middle_E V C 00:06:36:16 00:06:37:20 00:00:25:23 00:00:26:27 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 44.avi 015 Middle_E V C 00:03:24:21 00:03:25:29 00:00:26:27 00:00:28:06 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 14.avi 016 Middle_E V C 00:05:15:06 00:05:16:10 00:00:28:06 00:00:29:11 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 30.avi 017 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:23:24 00:01:26:16 00:00:29:11 00:00:32:03 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi 018 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:40:23 00:01:45:23 00:00:32:03 00:00:37:03 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi 019 Middle_E AA/V C 00:09:21:02 00:09:23:18 00:00:37:03 00:00:39:20 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 71.avi 020 Middle_E V C 00:09:29:29 00:09:32:12 00:00:39:20 00:00:42:03 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi 021 Middle_E AA C 00:09:29:29 00:09:33:17 00:00:39:20 00:00:43:08 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi 022 Middle_E V C 00:09:32:12 00:09:32:12 00:00:42:03 00:00:42:03 022 Middle-1 V D 035 00:03:45:21 00:03:54:02 00:00:42:03 00:00:50:13 * FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi * TO CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi * BLEND, DISSOLVE 023 Middle-1 AA C 00:03:46:26 00:03:54:19 00:00:43:08 00:00:51:00 * FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi 024 Middle-1 V C 00:03:54:02 00:03:54:02 00:00:50:13 00:00:50:13 024 Middle_E V D 035 00:10:52:28 00:11:10:04 00:00:50:13 00:01:07:20 * FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi * TO CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 79 Driving Cows in Road.avi * BLEND, DISSOLVE __________________ www.aegmedia.com May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

October 23rd, 2004, 07:50 PM	#1474
Ryan Davey New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 9	Sample EDL File that Works Here's is a copy of the EDL file that works... TITLE: Main Sequence FCM: DROP FRAME 001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02 * FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl 002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02 003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:02:02 01:00:02:02 00:00:02:02 00:00:02:02 003 Untitled V D 104 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19 * FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl * TO CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi * BLEND, DISSOLVE 004 Untitled AA C 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19 * FROM CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi 005 BL AA/V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:06 00:00:08:19 00:00:12:25 006 Untitled AA/V C 00:49:59:11 00:50:07:10 00:00:12:25 00:00:20:24 * FROM CLIP NAME: korkers middle earth walking skull.avi 007 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:18 00:00:20:24 00:00:21:12 008 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:06:01 00:00:20:24 00:00:26:25 009 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:01:22 00:00:21:12 00:00:23:04 * FROM CLIP NAME: minute to minute.prtl 010 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:05 00:00:23:04 00:00:25:09 011 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:14 01:00:05:00 00:00:25:09 00:00:26:25 * FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl 012 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:00 01:00:05:00 00:00:26:25 00:00:26:25 012 Untitled V D 063 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05 * FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl * TO CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi * BLEND, DISSOLVE 013 Untitled AA C 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05 * FROM CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi 014 Untitled AA/V C 00:09:52:19 00:10:00:15 00:00:29:05 00:00:37:01 * FROM CLIP NAME: magan nick falling korkers walking.avi 015 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:16 00:00:37:01 00:00:41:17 016 Untitled V C 00:30:00:08 00:30:13:10 00:00:41:17 00:00:54:19 M2 Untitled -3000.0 00:30:00:08 * FROM CLIP NAME: timelapse arroyo.avi __________________ www.aegmedia.com May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

October 25th, 2004, 02:24 AM	#1475
Steven Andrus Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 48	bypassing hardware check when installing FCP 4 anyone know how to do this? Keep's telling me that I don't have the right hardware, but I meet all the requirements. g4, 512mb ram firewire dvd drive agp card etc __________________ www.supafraud.com

October 25th, 2004, 03:12 AM	#1476
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I have no experience whatsoever with any of this, but reading the error message it looks like the input and record sizes do not match (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn) When I look at event 4 for example I see: 00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23 Now I assume this is: sourceIn, sourceOut, recordIn, recordOut at 30 frames per second (doesn't matter really what you choose) So source is: 00:00:56:19 - 00:00:54:21 = 00:00:01:28 record is: 00:00:12:23 - 00:00:10:24 = 00:00:01:29 See the difference? There is a 1 frame mismatch between the two. Now how it got there I have no idea. But perhaps this will get you a bit closer to what is going on. Perhaps a program called EDLMax can help you. Calculations: 00:00:56:19 = 1699 frames 00:00:54:21 = 1641 frames ========================= 1699 - 1641 = 58 frames = 00:00:01:28 00:00:12:23 = 383 frames 00:00:10:24 = 324 frames ======================== 383 - 324 = 59 frames = 00:00:01:29 __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 25th, 2004, 05:32 AM	#1477
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Peak comes from Bias inc not Apple. Apple has a package called Logic. I use Peak DV and find it suitable for a number of things. They have decent tech support. Contact them at www.bias-inc.com.

October 25th, 2004, 09:34 AM	#1478
Justin Sammarco Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 57	Need some help with some CGI possibly I would like to know what programs I'd need if any to do what seems to be a very simple effect for a scene. I have FCP HD and I'm not sure that if that is all we'd need...or if we'd need motion. What we are trying to do is this: our subject walks through a room into the bathroom. As she passes through the room (wide angle) there is a transformation of the room right behind her. Almost like a rippling wave following her and as it moves it changes the room. I hope I described that well enough for you to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Its one shot, and the effect will be done throughout the entire movie. We are thinking of shooting the scene once with the regular room, then changing the room and shooting it again and then overlapping the footage and adding some sort of effect to it that makes that possible. is my thinking correct about that? sorry if the post didn't make sense. I'm going back and forth here from work to this. But I read it over and it makes sense to me. thanks for all the help guys.

October 25th, 2004, 10:40 AM	#1479
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	Have you tried running fsck -f and repaired your permissions? that might help. What version of FCP & OS-10? __________________ -- Vic Owen --

October 25th, 2004, 02:42 PM	#1480
Ryan Davey New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 9	Thanks Rob, I'll try the EDL program and see what I can come up with, wonder why it's off by a frame? __________________ www.aegmedia.com May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

October 25th, 2004, 07:59 PM	#1481
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	QT Pro Key for v.6.0.1 I have QT 6.0.1 and now would like to purchase the Pro Key. However, I don't want to upgrade the current version of my QT Player because I don't want to mess up with iMovie (2.1.2), which i still use very often. I use my computer, almost exclusively, for video editing and so upgrades are not important to me. That said, will the current Pro Key offered by Apple work with the (relatively) outdated version of my QT? Thank you. __________________ Stelios G.M.

October 25th, 2004, 10:45 PM	#1482
Steven Andrus Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 48	its OSX 10.3 and FCP 4, tried that, still says i don't have the right hardware... __________________ www.supafraud.com

October 26th, 2004, 05:51 AM	#1483
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Call Apple support, something isn't right. It could be something with the ram. I know FCP does a ram check, but I thought that was only after the install. It would make sense to check ram prior to install as well. Do you have the Apple Ram Test CD? If so, run it over night if possible, but at the minimum for several hours and see if any errors are found. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 26th, 2004, 06:02 AM	#1484
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I don't think the QT key will work with the older version. You should look into upgrading iMovie for greater compatibility with current offerings from Apple. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 26th, 2004, 11:07 AM	#1485
Stylianos Moschapidakis Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cambridge, MA/Crete, Greece Posts: 189	Jeff, thank you for replying. I think I wasn't clear enough... QT Player 6.0.1 is the version that I have on my computer now. According to Apple's site it is recommended that one upgrade to the latest version of QT Player, which is 6.5, before purchasing the Pro Key. So, my question is this... If I don't upgrade, will the Pro Key currently offered by Apple work with my QT Player 6.0.1? __________________ Stelios G.M.