NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Jeff Donald · October 7th, 2004, 11:52 AM

Here is the list of files to delete if you want to uninstall FCP. Check this post at the top of the Mac forum.

Frank Vu · October 10th, 2004, 03:35 PM

How can I rotate a video clip 90 or 180 degrees in FCP?

Boyd Ostroff · October 10th, 2004, 04:01 PM

1. Select Image+Wireframe in the [ ] drop down menu in the Viewer.

2. Set the view to 50% from the drop down menu such that you can see a gray border around the image.

3. Point the cursor to the center of any of the image edges; it turns to a rotate symbol.

4. Drag to the desired angle, hold shift to constrain to 45 degree increments.

Alternate technique:

1. Click on the Motion tab of the Viewer

2. Either use the compass dial to rotate with the mouse, or enter an angle in the numeric field.

Kevin Burnfield · October 10th, 2004, 04:58 PM

you can also use the dial in the motions tab to rotate the video more then once around, as many times as you want. just select a number in some multiple of 180 or 360 or just some high number that will spin it long enough for your clip.

If you use a multiple of 360 you can control exactly how many times it will rotate though and you can be assured it will end in the right position.

Frank Vu · October 10th, 2004, 07:45 PM

Thanks Boyd. That's two now.

Jonathan Lutz · October 11th, 2004, 09:39 AM

Here's an interesting phenomenon that I've resolved, but it's annoying nonetheless.

On my timeline I have three shots, A B C.
All of them have render files associated with them (say titles).
I render them and the sequence ABC plays fine.
Then I decide to trim 4 frames from the tail of each.
I re-render and hit play. A starts to play fine, but then it begins playing part of B, then begins playing the beginning of A again, then B again (all the while the playhead is moving along normally). When it gets to C it starts to play it normally, but then begins playing part of D (sorry, let's assume there's a D too.)

This is extremely frustrating because there is nothing wrong with the way your timeline is edited. But even if you just park the playhead over the end of A, you'll see part of B where it shouldn't be.

What's happened is the render files have been nudged out of place by the trimming and were not corrected during re-rendering.

The solution is to go into your render files folder and drag them all to the trash (and empty it), go back into your project and re-render the whole thing.

Seems like a bug in the program, not a RAM or processor problem.

Christian Bovine · October 11th, 2004, 02:16 PM

Does anyone in the forum use Shake, and if so do they have any suggestions on the best way to get a good introduction to it?

Alan Tran · October 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM

yeah, check out the apple pro series training book on it

shake doesn't have an "apple interface" so thats why its kind of confusing at first but once you know the principles of how it works, its as easy as final cut

Stephen Schleicher · October 12th, 2004, 07:39 AM

I'm surprised FCP didn't tell you to rerender after you made those trims. That is usually what happens. I can not replicate this on my system. Any time I make a change (trim, extend, change the order) of a rendered clip in my timeline, I always have to rerender.

Cheers
Stephen Schleicher
www.mindspring.com/~schleicher

Jeff Donald · October 12th, 2004, 07:48 AM

What version of FCP are you using Jonathan? Anything else you can tell us about your system would be beneficial as well.

October 13th, 2004, 05:52 AM

i have some still images that will be used in an fcp timeline and exported to dvd for playback on a big screen tv. in photoshop should i scaled down the size of the images to 720x480 or leave them at the 5000xwhatever size that they are in now?

thanks

Jeff Donald · October 13th, 2004, 05:57 AM

Hi Jerry, this topic has been covered before. Try searching FCP and Photoshop to get some additional thoughts and tips. Here is a good tutorial from the good folks at LAFCPUG. While you're at their site you might want to browse through their numerous tutorials on FCP.

Christopher C. Murphy · October 13th, 2004, 05:47 PM

Hi all,

I'm trying to edit on FCP with another person watching who's not at my place. I'd like him to be able to see my desktop while I work. Is there a freeware program that let's you watch someone's desktop in real time? We don't need to be able to edit remotely or anything...just view each others desktop.

Thank you!!!

Murph

Glenn Chan · October 13th, 2004, 06:24 PM

The are various variants of VNC out there. It lets other people see and control your desktop kind of like they were sitting in front of the computer. However, you will be seriously limited by bandwidth on broadband. Full motion video is not going to look very good through VNC (very low frame rate).

I believe there is a mac version of VNC... I vaguely remember using it.

Glenn Chan · October 13th, 2004, 06:29 PM

Maybe an alternative is to hook up your Mac to a PC so the PC can use Windows Media Encoder (free). WME is good at compressing video and it will only have to compress video, not the entire Mac desktop.

You *might* be able to hook your Mac up to a PC with a firewire cable if you can set both sides to have no deck control.

A setup that would work is:
Mac with FCP set to show video out through firewire
Camcorder/deck, hook up to TV/monitor for you
Another analog output ultimately goes to FCP.
You can have another camcorder/deck or a video capture card to capture the analog signal for WME.

This way your friend can watch the stream of the video that your camcorder/deck sees. They however will not be able to see material in the viewer.

October 7th, 2004, 11:52 AM	#1396
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Here is the list of files to delete if you want to uninstall FCP. Check this post at the top of the Mac forum. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 10th, 2004, 03:35 PM	#1397
Frank Vu Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 26	Rotating Video in FCP How can I rotate a video clip 90 or 180 degrees in FCP? __________________ www.smockless.com

October 10th, 2004, 07:45 PM	#1400
Frank Vu Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, Ill. Posts: 26	Thanks Boyd. That's two now. __________________ www.smockless.com

October 11th, 2004, 09:39 AM	#1401
Jonathan Lutz Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: McLean, VA Posts: 29	FCP playing different video than what's on the timeline Here's an interesting phenomenon that I've resolved, but it's annoying nonetheless. On my timeline I have three shots, A B C. All of them have render files associated with them (say titles). I render them and the sequence ABC plays fine. Then I decide to trim 4 frames from the tail of each. I re-render and hit play. A starts to play fine, but then it begins playing part of B, then begins playing the beginning of A again, then B again (all the while the playhead is moving along normally). When it gets to C it starts to play it normally, but then begins playing part of D (sorry, let's assume there's a D too.) This is extremely frustrating because there is nothing wrong with the way your timeline is edited. But even if you just park the playhead over the end of A, you'll see part of B where it shouldn't be. What's happened is the render files have been nudged out of place by the trimming and were not corrected during re-rendering. The solution is to go into your render files folder and drag them all to the trash (and empty it), go back into your project and re-render the whole thing. Seems like a bug in the program, not a RAM or processor problem.

October 11th, 2004, 02:16 PM	#1402
Christian Bovine New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 19	Shake...anyone Does anyone in the forum use Shake, and if so do they have any suggestions on the best way to get a good introduction to it? __________________ Cb - philly

October 10th, 2004, 04:01 PM	#1398
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	1. Select Image+Wireframe in the [ ] drop down menu in the Viewer. 2. Set the view to 50% from the drop down menu such that you can see a gray border around the image. 3. Point the cursor to the center of any of the image edges; it turns to a rotate symbol. 4. Drag to the desired angle, hold shift to constrain to 45 degree increments. Alternate technique: 1. Click on the Motion tab of the Viewer 2. Either use the compass dial to rotate with the mouse, or enter an angle in the numeric field.

October 10th, 2004, 04:58 PM	#1399
Kevin Burnfield Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 363	you can also use the dial in the motions tab to rotate the video more then once around, as many times as you want. just select a number in some multiple of 180 or 360 or just some high number that will spin it long enough for your clip. If you use a multiple of 360 you can control exactly how many times it will rotate though and you can be assured it will end in the right position.

October 11th, 2004, 03:33 PM	#1403
Alan Tran Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 121	yeah, check out the apple pro series training book on it shake doesn't have an "apple interface" so thats why its kind of confusing at first but once you know the principles of how it works, its as easy as final cut

October 12th, 2004, 07:39 AM	#1404
Stephen Schleicher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 188	I'm surprised FCP didn't tell you to rerender after you made those trims. That is usually what happens. I can not replicate this on my system. Any time I make a change (trim, extend, change the order) of a rendered clip in my timeline, I always have to rerender. Cheers Stephen Schleicher www.mindspring.com/~schleicher __________________ Stephen Schleicher www.stephenschleicher.com

October 12th, 2004, 07:48 AM	#1405
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What version of FCP are you using Jonathan? Anything else you can tell us about your system would be beneficial as well. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 13th, 2004, 05:52 AM	#1406
Guest Posts: n/a	still images in fcp i have some still images that will be used in an fcp timeline and exported to dvd for playback on a big screen tv. in photoshop should i scaled down the size of the images to 720x480 or leave them at the 5000xwhatever size that they are in now? thanks

October 13th, 2004, 05:57 AM	#1407
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Hi Jerry, this topic has been covered before. Try searching FCP and Photoshop to get some additional thoughts and tips. Here is a good tutorial from the good folks at LAFCPUG. While you're at their site you might want to browse through their numerous tutorials on FCP. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 13th, 2004, 05:47 PM	#1408
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Question for Mac users Hi all, I'm trying to edit on FCP with another person watching who's not at my place. I'd like him to be able to see my desktop while I work. Is there a freeware program that let's you watch someone's desktop in real time? We don't need to be able to edit remotely or anything...just view each others desktop. Thank you!!! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

October 13th, 2004, 06:24 PM	#1409
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	The are various variants of VNC out there. It lets other people see and control your desktop kind of like they were sitting in front of the computer. However, you will be seriously limited by bandwidth on broadband. Full motion video is not going to look very good through VNC (very low frame rate). I believe there is a mac version of VNC... I vaguely remember using it.

October 13th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#1410
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Maybe an alternative is to hook up your Mac to a PC so the PC can use Windows Media Encoder (free). WME is good at compressing video and it will only have to compress video, not the entire Mac desktop. You might be able to hook your Mac up to a PC with a firewire cable if you can set both sides to have no deck control. A setup that would work is: Mac with FCP set to show video out through firewire Camcorder/deck, hook up to TV/monitor for you Another analog output ultimately goes to FCP. You can have another camcorder/deck or a video capture card to capture the analog signal for WME. This way your friend can watch the stream of the video that your camcorder/deck sees. They however will not be able to see material in the viewer.