NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Jerome Terry · October 5th, 2004, 07:22 AM

Hi Tim,

Check out this link.

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/qt_movies_from_fcp.html
Jerome

Ryan Wachter · October 5th, 2004, 09:30 AM

yea i figured out print to video which gives me the tone and color bars I needed as well. But I couldnt get it to record on the camera. Eventually I learned that not only do you have to push the vcr rec button on the camera but the saftey button next to it, this way you never accidently tape over stuff in VCR mode....well it almost cost me my entry...but it should already be there now. Thanks for your help.

Gary Chavez · October 5th, 2004, 09:48 AM

Long story longer.
(g-4 dual 1.25, aaja kona sd card 2 medea raid drives, beta 1800 and a dsr-45 running thru AJA card and monitor, piggybacked)

I had to trash preferences.
mac stopped seeing the medeas' on start up.
trashed 'em and it now it sees them.
dont know how that worked but im not questioning it.

however, 'Effects handling' now says FCP with the option of none,
where they all said Blackmagic before.
also, the beta and dsr routed monitor see video during capture and clip playback but not in the timeline and will not record video using crash record or print to tape.
audio is there.
i reinstalled Kona to no avail.
im in a pickle.
any thoughts?

Jeff Donald · October 5th, 2004, 11:25 AM

When you reinstalled Kona was FCP open? Make sure the application is closed before installing options or plugins. When you trash preferences you're setting all your custom settings and options back to Apple defaults. You need to set your settings and preferences back to the way you had them before.

Gary Chavez · October 5th, 2004, 12:53 PM

yes, i beleive it was.
should i close and reinstall?

Will Abele · October 5th, 2004, 10:05 PM

I think there is a button in the print to video window to automatically start recording. It looks like I am too late, I hope you figured it out.

Gary Chavez · October 6th, 2004, 07:21 AM

To countinue my thread of panic.
have discovered that the clips in the broswer while played in the viewer will export and crash capture.
i still cannot export the timeline.
where to look next?

Jeff Donald · October 6th, 2004, 07:31 AM

Try deleting Kona again, and reinstalling it, but with FCP closed. You can't have a program open and update it, at the same time. Your FCP preferences may need to be trashed again as well. I would trash preferences in FCP. Startup FCP, then close it. Install Kona software. Repair permissions to System drive using Disk Utility, Start FCP and set preferences (personal settings) back to the way you want them.

Donie Kelly · October 7th, 2004, 05:07 AM

Hi all

I've filmed some stuff in 4:3 mode on my XLs1 and I want to show it as widescreen. Can I just mask it so that it plays OK on a 4:3 tv and can be displayed OK on a widescreen tv???

Is there a nice way to do this in FCP4.5??? I've used the filters but they all require rendering which is a pain. Can't I just stick a photoshop file on top of the footage to get this effect without rendering??? I've tried a few things but I'm unsure of the best way to go about it. Searching the web is not getting me further either.

I'd appreciate if soembody could explain the correct way to achieve this...

A photoshop mask file would be appreciated as well if that's the way to go...

Many thanks
Donie

Boyd Ostroff · October 7th, 2004, 07:50 AM

I don't think there's any way to do this without rendering unfortunately. Do you just want to letterbox? That would be the only way for it to look right on a 4:3 TV. On a widescreen TV it will still be letterboxed, but most of them have a "zoom" mode which will cause it to fill the screen.

Another approach might be to turn it into anamorphic 16:9 by cropping and stretching, then burn to DVD. The DVD player will automatically provide a letterbox for 4:3 sets. Of course this will also require rendering.

Here are a few related threads which might be of interest...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=31987
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=27748
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=30068
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25441
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=24850
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=16465

Donie Kelly · October 7th, 2004, 08:51 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Boyd Ostroff : I don't think there's any way to do this without rendering unfortunately. Do you just want to letterbox? That would be the only way for it to look right on a 4:3 TV. On a widescreen TV it will still be letterboxed, but most of them have a "zoom" mode which will cause it to fill the screen. -->>>

Thanks Boyd, I'm begining to understand...

Do you know the values which are normally entered into the crop for the letterbox shape to be acceptable? I guess it's about 10% or more at top and bottom, but how many lines exactly shoudl I use to be 100% correct?

Many thanks

Donie

Boyd Ostroff · October 7th, 2004, 09:05 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Donie Kelly : how many lines exactly shoudl I use to be 100% correct? -->>>

You should crop 60 lines from the top and 60 from the bottom such that the active image area is 720x360.

Gary Chavez · October 7th, 2004, 09:18 AM

Hey Jeff,
Thanks for your suggestions.
I talked with the Kona support and they just had me update my drivers.
worked out all the bugs.
duh

Donie Kelly · October 7th, 2004, 09:24 AM

Cool, thanks Boyd, many thanks...

Heath Hays · October 7th, 2004, 09:33 AM

ok, so i searched a little trying to find out exactly how to completely uninstall fcp4 as well as how to trash preferences.

I couldnt get any help, so im making a thread thats clearly about this alone.

I tried just deleting the fcp program in the app folder, but when reinstalling, it refered to the install as an upgrade... then when i opened fcp it was as if id not done anything new. i was never asked for my licence code. How do i completey remove all traces of fcp4 so as to do a clean install?

on a similar note, how do i just trash the preferences so that im starting from default again on everything without a reinstall?

i wish i were smarter, but resourceful's gonna have to be enough.

heath

October 5th, 2004, 09:48 AM	#1383
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	trashed preferences.....where is everything? Long story longer. (g-4 dual 1.25, aaja kona sd card 2 medea raid drives, beta 1800 and a dsr-45 running thru AJA card and monitor, piggybacked) I had to trash preferences. mac stopped seeing the medeas' on start up. trashed 'em and it now it sees them. dont know how that worked but im not questioning it. however, 'Effects handling' now says FCP with the option of none, where they all said Blackmagic before. also, the beta and dsr routed monitor see video during capture and clip playback but not in the timeline and will not record video using crash record or print to tape. audio is there. i reinstalled Kona to no avail. im in a pickle. any thoughts?

October 5th, 2004, 11:25 AM	#1384
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	When you reinstalled Kona was FCP open? Make sure the application is closed before installing options or plugins. When you trash preferences you're setting all your custom settings and options back to Apple defaults. You need to set your settings and preferences back to the way you had them before. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 6th, 2004, 07:31 AM	#1388
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Try deleting Kona again, and reinstalling it, but with FCP closed. You can't have a program open and update it, at the same time. Your FCP preferences may need to be trashed again as well. I would trash preferences in FCP. Startup FCP, then close it. Install Kona software. Repair permissions to System drive using Disk Utility, Start FCP and set preferences (personal settings) back to the way you want them. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 7th, 2004, 05:07 AM	#1389
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	Converting 4:3 to widescreen? Hi all I've filmed some stuff in 4:3 mode on my XLs1 and I want to show it as widescreen. Can I just mask it so that it plays OK on a 4:3 tv and can be displayed OK on a widescreen tv??? Is there a nice way to do this in FCP4.5??? I've used the filters but they all require rendering which is a pain. Can't I just stick a photoshop file on top of the footage to get this effect without rendering??? I've tried a few things but I'm unsure of the best way to go about it. Searching the web is not getting me further either. I'd appreciate if soembody could explain the correct way to achieve this... A photoshop mask file would be appreciated as well if that's the way to go... Many thanks Donie __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

October 7th, 2004, 08:51 AM	#1391
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	<<<-- Originally posted by Boyd Ostroff : I don't think there's any way to do this without rendering unfortunately. Do you just want to letterbox? That would be the only way for it to look right on a 4:3 TV. On a widescreen TV it will still be letterboxed, but most of them have a "zoom" mode which will cause it to fill the screen. -->>> Thanks Boyd, I'm begining to understand... Do you know the values which are normally entered into the crop for the letterbox shape to be acceptable? I guess it's about 10% or more at top and bottom, but how many lines exactly shoudl I use to be 100% correct? Many thanks Donie __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

October 5th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#1381
Jerome Terry Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pasadena, CA. Posts: 53	Hi Tim, Check out this link. http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/qt_movies_from_fcp.html Jerome

October 5th, 2004, 09:30 AM	#1382
Ryan Wachter Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 164	yea i figured out print to video which gives me the tone and color bars I needed as well. But I couldnt get it to record on the camera. Eventually I learned that not only do you have to push the vcr rec button on the camera but the saftey button next to it, this way you never accidently tape over stuff in VCR mode....well it almost cost me my entry...but it should already be there now. Thanks for your help.

October 5th, 2004, 12:53 PM	#1385
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	yes, i beleive it was. should i close and reinstall?

October 5th, 2004, 10:05 PM	#1386
Will Abele Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26	I think there is a button in the print to video window to automatically start recording. It looks like I am too late, I hope you figured it out.

October 6th, 2004, 07:21 AM	#1387
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	To countinue my thread of panic. have discovered that the clips in the broswer while played in the viewer will export and crash capture. i still cannot export the timeline. where to look next?

October 7th, 2004, 07:50 AM	#1390
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I don't think there's any way to do this without rendering unfortunately. Do you just want to letterbox? That would be the only way for it to look right on a 4:3 TV. On a widescreen TV it will still be letterboxed, but most of them have a "zoom" mode which will cause it to fill the screen. Another approach might be to turn it into anamorphic 16:9 by cropping and stretching, then burn to DVD. The DVD player will automatically provide a letterbox for 4:3 sets. Of course this will also require rendering. Here are a few related threads which might be of interest... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=31987 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=27748 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=30068 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=25441 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=24850 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=16465

October 7th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#1392
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	<<<-- Originally posted by Donie Kelly : how many lines exactly shoudl I use to be 100% correct? -->>> You should crop 60 lines from the top and 60 from the bottom such that the active image area is 720x360.

October 7th, 2004, 09:18 AM	#1393
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	Hey Jeff, Thanks for your suggestions. I talked with the Kona support and they just had me update my drivers. worked out all the bugs. duh

October 7th, 2004, 09:24 AM	#1394
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	Cool, thanks Boyd, many thanks... __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

October 7th, 2004, 09:33 AM	#1395
Heath Hays Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 60	Uninstall FCP4 and Trashing preferences ok, so i searched a little trying to find out exactly how to completely uninstall fcp4 as well as how to trash preferences. I couldnt get any help, so im making a thread thats clearly about this alone. I tried just deleting the fcp program in the app folder, but when reinstalling, it refered to the install as an upgrade... then when i opened fcp it was as if id not done anything new. i was never asked for my licence code. How do i completey remove all traces of fcp4 so as to do a clean install? on a similar note, how do i just trash the preferences so that im starting from default again on everything without a reinstall? i wish i were smarter, but resourceful's gonna have to be enough. heath __________________ Heath Hays MGD Productions