NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Rob Lohman · August 1st, 2004, 08:27 AM

You would at least need software that would support this. I'm on
the PC where I believe Nero does this. Not sure about the Mac.
Would this be for a onetime thing or do you want to do this more
often? A duplication station might be a better way to go then?

Rob Lohman · August 1st, 2004, 11:17 AM

I'm not sure. But if you have a friend with a PC you should be
able to convert the ASF footage to something you can read like
QuickTime if he has QT installed and a program that can read
the file (like Vegas).

How large is the file? Otherwise someone here might be able
to do it for you (myself included).

Dave Cook · August 2nd, 2004, 06:36 AM

Thanks Rob! I do have a PC at work. I'll see if I can work it out on this end. Pretty funny footage actually. It's like " Okay smile! Dang, out of memory, hold on..." Hehe. It's just wierd reaching for another button to take hi-res stills...

Christopher C. Murphy · August 3rd, 2004, 11:48 AM

Hi,

Does anyone know when rendered type from Livetype looks jagged? It doesn't look aliased at all.

I'm editing HDV footage, so the footage looks great. But, the titles look horrible.

Any idea?

Thank you!!

Murph

Todd Makurath · August 3rd, 2004, 12:15 PM

I am working on a feature that I filmed on a DVX-100A in the 24p advanced mode (3:2) and recorded sound externally to DAT. The DAT was run at 29.97fps. Using FCP 4 I will be editing my video footage at 23.98fps.

My question is, which of the following is the best workflow solution:

1. Use FCP's "log and capture" to remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown then sync sound.

2. Log and capture footage at 29.97, sync sound, THEN reverse telecine to remove the pulldown using Cinema Tools.

I am extremely worried about losing sync with my sound in the conversion. Also, what is the best way to finish so that I can preserve my 24p cut to keep my options open in regards to *maybe* printing to film.

Any and all advice regarding these systems will be exremely helpful. Thanks!

Steve Cohen · August 3rd, 2004, 04:46 PM

Help!!! I created a quicktime file and imported into FCX. When I inserted the clip into the timeline, the audo was missing except for a repeating beep.

Am I missing something simple? Can I either silence the beep or restore the original sound?

Thanks.

Deniz Turkmen · August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM

I'm thinking about purchasing a 320GB Lacie Big Disk Extreme to use for backing up my video files. I tried searching for some reviews on the web but couldn't find any. Does anyone whose used it have any comments on it?

Thanks

Mike Hanlon · August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM

The beeping means that the audio needs to be rendered. You should see a red line at the top of the timeline indicating as such.

Render the audio and see if the beeping goes away.

Tim Lane · August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM

Anyone have an easy/effective method or workflow to move content currently on Beta SP into FCP (while maintaining quality image and audio)?

If this exists elsewhere in the forums, please feel free to redirect me.

thx t

Boyd Ostroff · August 3rd, 2004, 05:12 PM

FCP is a little strange with Quicktime files sometimes and I don't understand it myself. FCP files are really just Quicktime movies. But I was capturing a bunch of clips in FCPjust yesterday, which I saved using the "save clip" command. Then when I tried to play one of these files back immediately afterwards I got the beeping you described. I checked its properties and my settings were all correct. So I closed the file, and tried dragging its icon to the browser which added it to the clip list. When I opened it by double-clicking in the browser it was fine, no more beeps. Strange.

So anyway, you might try what I did. But Steve is correct in that for some reason FCE wants you to render the audio. This might be necessary for a number of reasons depending on its format. Create a new sequence, drop the Quicktime clip to it and render. That should fix the problem regardless of the source.

Guy Cochran · August 3rd, 2004, 05:34 PM

Hi Chris,

I might be able to help you as the folks here at DVcreators.net just spent the last couple of months creating a LiveType tutorial DVD-ROM.

Couple of questions:

Does the Rendered Output look bad on your NTSC monitor?

Or just in your Viewer/Canvas?

How are you outputting from LiveType?
Are you using File>Render Movie?

Or are you dragging and dropping the document icon from LiveType to the FCP timeline?

What are your Project Properties set at in LiveType ?

Do your FCP titles look good?

Steve Cohen · August 3rd, 2004, 07:43 PM

Thank you. I will attempt to render the quicktime file and I'll let you know the results.

Tyler Spiers · August 4th, 2004, 12:21 AM

I shot a short on a DVX 100 in anamorphic. I log and captured all my clips and then edited my short toghether. Then I tried to make the sequence anamorphic by switching on the anamorphic option in the browser. Now, on my camera it looks like it switched it to anamorphic but when I play it back on my television everything is stretched out. Does anyone know what the problem may be? I am pretty sure I'm doing everything right. I use Final Cut Pro three. Oh, and when I make my clip anamorphic before I lay it down in the timeline, it switches to widescreen.

Frank Meek · August 4th, 2004, 12:51 AM

I have the 250 gig unit and with the PCMI card (firewire 800), it is simply mahvelous...quick, accurate and it sure takes a load off the computer drive...

Laurence Maher · August 4th, 2004, 03:23 AM

I just got a brand new g5 with fcp. I was in a hurry to get a project out, so I read the quick tutorial book and started off (I'll get to the manuals when i can). Coulnd't quite seem to get the Batch Capture going right (probably something i did). So I decided to just do "capture now" on this first project. The book says that capture now will last for 30 minutes then shut off and you must make a new file. But when I hit capture now, it doesn't get far at all, say 3 minutes at the m ost, and then it stops, repositions some frames, and captures some more stuff. Sometimes this goes on for a bit and i capture pretty much what. Most of the time I have to babysit the thing becasue I know it's going to stop working at any time and I'll have to start capturing were it left off.

Is this a common problem? or is i tpossible my camera (vx-1000) is just getting old and the heads in it have a hard time reading the track on the video tape (thus leading to the code line breaking and the computer gets stumped?) I think the footage I'm using was shot on an older tape too. (Erased over the first tape with other footage). Perhaps this makes for drops in time code. Not sure.

Any advice?

Thanks!

Laurence

August 1st, 2004, 08:27 AM	#1051
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You would at least need software that would support this. I'm on the PC where I believe Nero does this. Not sure about the Mac. Would this be for a onetime thing or do you want to do this more often? A duplication station might be a better way to go then? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 1st, 2004, 11:17 AM	#1052
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I'm not sure. But if you have a friend with a PC you should be able to convert the ASF footage to something you can read like QuickTime if he has QT installed and a program that can read the file (like Vegas). How large is the file? Otherwise someone here might be able to do it for you (myself included). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 2nd, 2004, 06:36 AM	#1053
Dave Cook New Boot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 24	Thanks Rob! I do have a PC at work. I'll see if I can work it out on this end. Pretty funny footage actually. It's like " Okay smile! Dang, out of memory, hold on..." Hehe. It's just wierd reaching for another button to take hi-res stills... __________________ Dave Cook \| Panasonic PV-GS200 \| PowerMac G5 Dual 2Ghz \| Final Cut Express \| DVD Studio Pro

August 3rd, 2004, 11:48 AM	#1054
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Titles in LiveType look like crap? Hi, Does anyone know when rendered type from Livetype looks jagged? It doesn't look aliased at all. I'm editing HDV footage, so the footage looks great. But, the titles look horrible. Any idea? Thank you!! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

August 3rd, 2004, 12:15 PM	#1055
Todd Makurath Tourist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3	Editing on FCP 4 with DVX-100 and DAT... HELP!! I am working on a feature that I filmed on a DVX-100A in the 24p advanced mode (3:2) and recorded sound externally to DAT. The DAT was run at 29.97fps. Using FCP 4 I will be editing my video footage at 23.98fps. My question is, which of the following is the best workflow solution: 1. Use FCP's "log and capture" to remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown then sync sound. 2. Log and capture footage at 29.97, sync sound, THEN reverse telecine to remove the pulldown using Cinema Tools. I am extremely worried about losing sync with my sound in the conversion. Also, what is the best way to finish so that I can preserve my 24p cut to keep my options open in regards to maybe printing to film. Any and all advice regarding these systems will be exremely helpful. Thanks!

August 3rd, 2004, 04:46 PM	#1056
Steve Cohen New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 19	Importing Quicktime File Help!!! I created a quicktime file and imported into FCX. When I inserted the clip into the timeline, the audo was missing except for a repeating beep. Am I missing something simple? Can I either silence the beep or restore the original sound? Thanks.

August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM	#1057
Deniz Turkmen Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CA Posts: 166	Lacie Big Disk Extreme I'm thinking about purchasing a 320GB Lacie Big Disk Extreme to use for backing up my video files. I tried searching for some reviews on the web but couldn't find any. Does anyone whose used it have any comments on it? Thanks

August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM	#1058
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	The beeping means that the audio needs to be rendered. You should see a red line at the top of the timeline indicating as such. Render the audio and see if the beeping goes away.

August 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM	#1059
Tim Lane New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Calgary AB CANADA Posts: 9	analog to digital conversion Anyone have an easy/effective method or workflow to move content currently on Beta SP into FCP (while maintaining quality image and audio)? If this exists elsewhere in the forums, please feel free to redirect me. thx t __________________ Tim S Lane 5zerozero Media Inc

August 3rd, 2004, 05:12 PM	#1060
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	FCP is a little strange with Quicktime files sometimes and I don't understand it myself. FCP files are really just Quicktime movies. But I was capturing a bunch of clips in FCPjust yesterday, which I saved using the "save clip" command. Then when I tried to play one of these files back immediately afterwards I got the beeping you described. I checked its properties and my settings were all correct. So I closed the file, and tried dragging its icon to the browser which added it to the clip list. When I opened it by double-clicking in the browser it was fine, no more beeps. Strange. So anyway, you might try what I did. But Steve is correct in that for some reason FCE wants you to render the audio. This might be necessary for a number of reasons depending on its format. Create a new sequence, drop the Quicktime clip to it and render. That should fix the problem regardless of the source.

August 3rd, 2004, 05:34 PM	#1061
Guy Cochran DVCreators.Net Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 892	Hi Chris, I might be able to help you as the folks here at DVcreators.net just spent the last couple of months creating a LiveType tutorial DVD-ROM. Couple of questions: Does the Rendered Output look bad on your NTSC monitor? Or just in your Viewer/Canvas? How are you outputting from LiveType? Are you using File>Render Movie? Or are you dragging and dropping the document icon from LiveType to the FCP timeline? What are your Project Properties set at in LiveType ? Do your FCP titles look good? __________________ Guy Cochran DVinfo Sponsor, Cool Gear - DVeStore!

August 3rd, 2004, 07:43 PM	#1062
Steve Cohen New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 19	Thank you. I will attempt to render the quicktime file and I'll let you know the results.

August 4th, 2004, 12:21 AM	#1063
Tyler Spiers New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 19	Anamorphic editing I shot a short on a DVX 100 in anamorphic. I log and captured all my clips and then edited my short toghether. Then I tried to make the sequence anamorphic by switching on the anamorphic option in the browser. Now, on my camera it looks like it switched it to anamorphic but when I play it back on my television everything is stretched out. Does anyone know what the problem may be? I am pretty sure I'm doing everything right. I use Final Cut Pro three. Oh, and when I make my clip anamorphic before I lay it down in the timeline, it switches to widescreen.

August 4th, 2004, 12:51 AM	#1064
Frank Meek Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Jackson, WY/Steamboat CO Posts: 43	I have the 250 gig unit and with the PCMI card (firewire 800), it is simply mahvelous...quick, accurate and it sure takes a load off the computer drive...

August 4th, 2004, 03:23 AM	#1065
Laurence Maher Join Date: May 2004 Location: denton, texas, usa Posts: 416	Is my "Capture Now" not working on FCP? I just got a brand new g5 with fcp. I was in a hurry to get a project out, so I read the quick tutorial book and started off (I'll get to the manuals when i can). Coulnd't quite seem to get the Batch Capture going right (probably something i did). So I decided to just do "capture now" on this first project. The book says that capture now will last for 30 minutes then shut off and you must make a new file. But when I hit capture now, it doesn't get far at all, say 3 minutes at the m ost, and then it stops, repositions some frames, and captures some more stuff. Sometimes this goes on for a bit and i capture pretty much what. Most of the time I have to babysit the thing becasue I know it's going to stop working at any time and I'll have to start capturing were it left off. Is this a common problem? or is i tpossible my camera (vx-1000) is just getting old and the heads in it have a hard time reading the track on the video tape (thus leading to the code line breaking and the computer gets stumped?) I think the footage I'm using was shot on an older tape too. (Erased over the first tape with other footage). Perhaps this makes for drops in time code. Not sure. Any advice? Thanks! Laurence