NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Jeff Donald · July 8th, 2004, 11:58 AM

I've never tried it with iDVD, so you might want to try a short test file. But i don't think that will work. You need to import the media in to iDVD so it can be encoded in to MPEG2.

Ron Jones · July 8th, 2004, 12:21 PM

Thanks Jeff,

I am new to the DVD prep/burning. In FCP how do I save project (what format in export do I use) so everything is as is, in FCP. I am probably not explaining this right. But how does iDVD know the arrangement of project , with out the FCP doc.

Ron

Rick Tugman · July 8th, 2004, 01:40 PM

Hi Ron:

You can take your finished project from FILE, EXPORT to "Quicktime Movie" and use that file in iDVD. Do not use "Quicktime Conversion" because you will not get the same results.

I made a iDVD DVD with 3 edited sequences (3 different FCP projects) - 1 for the actual video which was the DVD presentation, 1 specified video that plays on the DVD when inserted to the player and finally one as an opening sequence montage which is played on the menu page. Each sequence was exported out of Final Cut Pro using Quicktime Movie and then simply inserted (by dragging it) into the iDVD theme of my choice. By using export to quicktime movie, iDVD knew exactly what the format was and all I did was place the right sequence in the right folder and iDVD did the rest.

I hope this has answered your questions. Just be sure to render everything then save your project. If you wish to copy it to a videotape, you should PRINT TO VIDEO.... the menu will walk you through everything.

Good luck!

Ron Jones · July 8th, 2004, 01:49 PM

Thanks for your help Rick

Ron

Rick Tugman · July 8th, 2004, 01:53 PM

No problem Ron... Let us know how this works out for you.

Ryan McBride · July 8th, 2004, 08:27 PM

Please forgive me I am still learning about my mac. My question is: Are there any benefits to setting up a RAID system when using my internal HD and an external USB 2.0(Western Digital 7200 80 gig). I use Premiere 6.5 on my internal. If there are no benefits should I run my scratch disk options to the internal or external HD. I dont use a lot of special effects. I do want to optimize my rendering times. Big surprise huh. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Jeff Donald · July 8th, 2004, 10:30 PM

What computer? What OS? How much ram? How many drives and what type?

Laurence Maher · July 9th, 2004, 12:49 AM

Thanks guys. Got it working. Everything cool.

Jeff Price · July 9th, 2004, 09:52 AM

Depending on the type of RAID I'd be leary of including my applications drive as part of the array (versus using two drives for projects). It also might be worth poking around on the internet to see if USB 2 is a good choice for this. While USB 2 and firewire have similar speeds in theory they are optimized for different types of data streams. My direct experience with the two is that USB 2 is slower than firewire for file copies on my Mac G5.

Mark Sloan · July 9th, 2004, 11:24 AM

Can you even do a RAID between a USB 2.0 drive and an internal drive? The speed of USB 2.0 will be much slower than your internal drive so RAID would actually be slower than just using your internal drive. This is a Mac site but it has some speeds:
http://www.barefeats.com/usb2.html

See the note about Windows speeds being better. But still, the speed would be slower than most internal drives.

Ryan McBride · July 10th, 2004, 06:13 PM

I have an Imac superdrive G4 1.25 with 768 on the ram and I am running Panther. I did some checking on Mac help and they said you could raid your internal if it was OS Extended HFS format. I couldnt set it up as a raid set unless I ran disk utility from the boot disk of osx. I thought that USB might be slower. Im just looking for a little more speed and faster rendering with Premier 6.5. I guess I will just capture to the USB, and run my previews and projects form the Application on the internal hard drive. Thanks for the replies.

Jeff Price · July 10th, 2004, 11:32 PM

Increasing your ram may help speed rendering time but in many cases it will be a function of your processor, not your hard disk.

Ozzie Leon · July 12th, 2004, 07:25 AM

check out digital juice jumpback, they have a sports package that might help. $249 per box, not to bad on the price.

Brandon Payte · July 12th, 2004, 03:35 PM

I use some of their jumback wedding stuff. I will probably have to use that for some of the backgrounds since I can't find any transitions. Thanks!

Tyler Spiers · July 13th, 2004, 02:42 PM

Whenever I capture a large clip, more than 8 minutes, when I play it back in the viewer I get loud beeping sounds. The same kind of beeps you get when you need to render something. I don't know why this happens and have no reference to look up what the problem is. It's driving me crazy. Does anyone know why this is happening? Please help.

July 8th, 2004, 11:58 AM	#931
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I've never tried it with iDVD, so you might want to try a short test file. But i don't think that will work. You need to import the media in to iDVD so it can be encoded in to MPEG2. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 8th, 2004, 01:40 PM	#933
Rick Tugman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 105	Hi Ron: You can take your finished project from FILE, EXPORT to "Quicktime Movie" and use that file in iDVD. Do not use "Quicktime Conversion" because you will not get the same results. I made a iDVD DVD with 3 edited sequences (3 different FCP projects) - 1 for the actual video which was the DVD presentation, 1 specified video that plays on the DVD when inserted to the player and finally one as an opening sequence montage which is played on the menu page. Each sequence was exported out of Final Cut Pro using Quicktime Movie and then simply inserted (by dragging it) into the iDVD theme of my choice. By using export to quicktime movie, iDVD knew exactly what the format was and all I did was place the right sequence in the right folder and iDVD did the rest. I hope this has answered your questions. Just be sure to render everything then save your project. If you wish to copy it to a videotape, you should PRINT TO VIDEO.... the menu will walk you through everything. Good luck! __________________ Camera: Panasonic DV953 PC: Apple Aluminum G4 Powerbook - 15 inch Final Cut Pro 4 and other assorted goodies!

July 8th, 2004, 01:53 PM	#935
Rick Tugman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 105	No problem Ron... Let us know how this works out for you. __________________ Camera: Panasonic DV953 PC: Apple Aluminum G4 Powerbook - 15 inch Final Cut Pro 4 and other assorted goodies!

July 8th, 2004, 08:27 PM	#936
Ryan McBride Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 28	RAID set up with USB 2.0? Please forgive me I am still learning about my mac. My question is: Are there any benefits to setting up a RAID system when using my internal HD and an external USB 2.0(Western Digital 7200 80 gig). I use Premiere 6.5 on my internal. If there are no benefits should I run my scratch disk options to the internal or external HD. I dont use a lot of special effects. I do want to optimize my rendering times. Big surprise huh. Any input is greatly appreciated.

July 8th, 2004, 10:30 PM	#937
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What computer? What OS? How much ram? How many drives and what type? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 8th, 2004, 12:21 PM	#932
Ron Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 95	Thanks Jeff, I am new to the DVD prep/burning. In FCP how do I save project (what format in export do I use) so everything is as is, in FCP. I am probably not explaining this right. But how does iDVD know the arrangement of project , with out the FCP doc. Ron

July 8th, 2004, 01:49 PM	#934
Ron Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 95	Thanks for your help Rick Ron

July 9th, 2004, 12:49 AM	#938
Laurence Maher Join Date: May 2004 Location: denton, texas, usa Posts: 416	Thanks guys. Got it working. Everything cool.

July 9th, 2004, 09:52 AM	#939
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	Depending on the type of RAID I'd be leary of including my applications drive as part of the array (versus using two drives for projects). It also might be worth poking around on the internet to see if USB 2 is a good choice for this. While USB 2 and firewire have similar speeds in theory they are optimized for different types of data streams. My direct experience with the two is that USB 2 is slower than firewire for file copies on my Mac G5. __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com

July 9th, 2004, 11:24 AM	#940
Mark Sloan Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 346	Can you even do a RAID between a USB 2.0 drive and an internal drive? The speed of USB 2.0 will be much slower than your internal drive so RAID would actually be slower than just using your internal drive. This is a Mac site but it has some speeds: http://www.barefeats.com/usb2.html See the note about Windows speeds being better. But still, the speed would be slower than most internal drives.

July 10th, 2004, 06:13 PM	#941
Ryan McBride Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 28	I have an Imac superdrive G4 1.25 with 768 on the ram and I am running Panther. I did some checking on Mac help and they said you could raid your internal if it was OS Extended HFS format. I couldnt set it up as a raid set unless I ran disk utility from the boot disk of osx. I thought that USB might be slower. Im just looking for a little more speed and faster rendering with Premier 6.5. I guess I will just capture to the USB, and run my previews and projects form the Application on the internal hard drive. Thanks for the replies.

July 10th, 2004, 11:32 PM	#942
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	Increasing your ram may help speed rendering time but in many cases it will be a function of your processor, not your hard disk. __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com

July 12th, 2004, 07:25 AM	#943
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	check out digital juice jumpback, they have a sports package that might help. $249 per box, not to bad on the price. __________________ Ozzie Leon

July 12th, 2004, 03:35 PM	#944
Brandon Payte Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tx Posts: 41	I use some of their jumback wedding stuff. I will probably have to use that for some of the backgrounds since I can't find any transitions. Thanks!

July 13th, 2004, 02:42 PM	#945
Tyler Spiers New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 19	Log and capture Whenever I capture a large clip, more than 8 minutes, when I play it back in the viewer I get loud beeping sounds. The same kind of beeps you get when you need to render something. I don't know why this happens and have no reference to look up what the problem is. It's driving me crazy. Does anyone know why this is happening? Please help.