NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Glenn Chan · April 17th, 2004, 10:39 PM

It's probably not your computer. Final Cut can be set to report if you drop frames (I think it always does), and it can be set to stop capturing if you do drop frames.

Possible causes for audio out of sync:
A- Your camera's audio clock is a little off, say 48.009khz instead of 48.000khz sampling rate. Nearly all consumer cameras do this, although Canon is the worst. You may be able to check by right clicking your clips in the bin and checking their properties, it'll tell you what their sampling rates are.

B- If you have no audio in sections then FCP will mess up.

C- Maybe the tape was shot in 12bit audio mode- 12-bit depth, 4 channels, 32khz instead of 16-bit depth, 2 channels, 28khz. You should nearly always be shooting in 16bit mode.

D- Timecode breaks will cause audio to go out of sync. One fix is to dub the tape to generate fresh continuous timecode.

What camera was the tape shot on?

Paul Moore · April 18th, 2004, 01:52 PM

I go to the Apple home page about 5 min's ago and i see this

http://www.apple.com/software/pro/

all i can say is WOW.

New toys for us :D

Josh Brusin · April 18th, 2004, 02:01 PM

sheesh no wonder after effects bit the dust.

Josh Brusin · April 18th, 2004, 02:02 PM

it advertising real time... hmmm.

Paul Moore · April 18th, 2004, 02:36 PM

yeah thats what made me say hummm. i guess i ignored shake 3.5 since i know thats the price of everything i own now LOL

Joe Collins · April 18th, 2004, 02:52 PM

Also Final Cut Pro HD is available now as a download for FCP 4.0 users here:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/download/

or use your software update thingy : )

Josh Brusin · April 18th, 2004, 03:17 PM

SD YUV over firewire>?

Sharon Fraats · April 19th, 2004, 07:43 AM

Panasonic and Apple Collaborate to Bring HD Over FireWire to the Desktop and Mobile Editing

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/apr/18panasonic.html

Paul Chun · April 19th, 2004, 12:10 PM

video was shot on a TRV900 which I never had any problems in the past before. This is the ONLY tape that I've had audio sync problems with. Audio is shot in 16bit mode and I don't believe there are any timecode breaks in the tape but I could be wrong. I do have other tapes that I've captured that have had timecode breaks and all have captured fine in FCE2 so I'm not sure what the problem is. I have turned off the "warn if dropped frames" occurs and when I do leave it on with this particular tape, it shows up and stops capturing so I believe it is dropping some frames.

John C. Chu · April 19th, 2004, 05:00 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Paul Chun : I just captured my 5th tape from a series of tapes that I am editing and pulled some of the video into the timeline in Final Cut Express 2. The audio is out of sync with the video. The other tapes are fine and I've tried to recapture this one tape several times but it is always out of sync. Anyone know why this is? I'm assuming that I'm dropping frames as is it being captured. Any reason for this? Is it my computer or my camera/tape? -->>>

Just out of curiosity...

Could you try capturing this particular tape with iMovie and then importing it into Final Cut?

Tyler Spiers · April 20th, 2004, 01:09 AM

I am editing a short film and have decided to make it black and white instead of color. It's all edited in FCP 3 and ready to go. What's the easiest way to make all the video black and white? I was looking for an effect but can't find one. Thank You.

Ken Tanaka · April 20th, 2004, 01:23 AM

You'll need to use one of the color correction tools to desaturate all of the sequences.

Thomas Berg Petersen · April 20th, 2004, 01:15 PM

I am currently editing a project in FCP3, and I am going to edit a new project in a few weeks and the directors wants me to edit in FCP4 (which I would love to as I have heard many great things about FCP4).

I read that it is not a good idea to convert FCP3 projects (and media) to FCP4 projects, so I was wondering if I bought the FCP4 upgrade, would it be possible to run both FCP3 and FCP4 on the same Mac? Obviously not at the same time, but it would be cool if I could continue with my current project in FCP3, and switch to FCP4 for this new project?

Jeremy Martin · April 20th, 2004, 04:38 PM

after capturing and editing i cant seem to record my final movie back onto my xl. using after effects and FCP4. is there some setting im missing to be able to do this. i thought that i could just go back onto my camcorder from firewire.

anyone care to clue me in on the necessary steps?

thanks a million.

J.

Andrew Hogan · April 20th, 2004, 07:43 PM

from FCP open your sequence and select File, Print to video (or similar wording) have your camera connected and in VCR mode, use your Cameras remote to record, un-pause. I don't beleive you can do this from AE, you would have to render the footage from AE to your HDD and import it into FCP and back to your cam from there. Does this make sense?

April 18th, 2004, 01:52 PM	#497
Paul Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morrisville, PA Posts: 30	Final Cut Pro HD Motion and DVD Studio Pro 3 I go to the Apple home page about 5 min's ago and i see this http://www.apple.com/software/pro/ all i can say is WOW. New toys for us :D

April 18th, 2004, 02:52 PM	#501
Joe Collins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Athens, Ga USA Posts: 33	Final Cut Pro HD is also available Also Final Cut Pro HD is available now as a download for FCP 4.0 users here: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/download/ or use your software update thingy : )

April 19th, 2004, 05:00 PM	#505
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	Re: Video out of Sync <<<-- Originally posted by Paul Chun : I just captured my 5th tape from a series of tapes that I am editing and pulled some of the video into the timeline in Final Cut Express 2. The audio is out of sync with the video. The other tapes are fine and I've tried to recapture this one tape several times but it is always out of sync. Anyone know why this is? I'm assuming that I'm dropping frames as is it being captured. Any reason for this? Is it my computer or my camera/tape? -->>> Just out of curiosity... Could you try capturing this particular tape with iMovie and then importing it into Final Cut?

April 20th, 2004, 01:09 AM	#506
Tyler Spiers New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 19	Black and White I am editing a short film and have decided to make it black and white instead of color. It's all edited in FCP 3 and ready to go. What's the easiest way to make all the video black and white? I was looking for an effect but can't find one. Thank You.

April 20th, 2004, 01:23 AM	#507
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	You'll need to use one of the color correction tools to desaturate all of the sequences. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 17th, 2004, 10:39 PM	#496
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	It's probably not your computer. Final Cut can be set to report if you drop frames (I think it always does), and it can be set to stop capturing if you do drop frames. Possible causes for audio out of sync: A- Your camera's audio clock is a little off, say 48.009khz instead of 48.000khz sampling rate. Nearly all consumer cameras do this, although Canon is the worst. You may be able to check by right clicking your clips in the bin and checking their properties, it'll tell you what their sampling rates are. B- If you have no audio in sections then FCP will mess up. C- Maybe the tape was shot in 12bit audio mode- 12-bit depth, 4 channels, 32khz instead of 16-bit depth, 2 channels, 28khz. You should nearly always be shooting in 16bit mode. D- Timecode breaks will cause audio to go out of sync. One fix is to dub the tape to generate fresh continuous timecode. What camera was the tape shot on?

April 18th, 2004, 02:01 PM	#498
Josh Brusin Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 439	sheesh no wonder after effects bit the dust.

April 18th, 2004, 02:02 PM	#499
Josh Brusin Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 439	it advertising real time... hmmm.

April 18th, 2004, 02:36 PM	#500
Paul Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morrisville, PA Posts: 30	yeah thats what made me say hummm. i guess i ignored shake 3.5 since i know thats the price of everything i own now LOL

April 18th, 2004, 03:17 PM	#502
Josh Brusin Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 439	SD YUV over firewire>?

April 19th, 2004, 07:43 AM	#503
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	Panasonic and Apple Collaborate to Bring HD Over FireWire to the Desktop and Mobile Editing http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2004/apr/18panasonic.html

April 19th, 2004, 12:10 PM	#504
Paul Chun Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 132	video was shot on a TRV900 which I never had any problems in the past before. This is the ONLY tape that I've had audio sync problems with. Audio is shot in 16bit mode and I don't believe there are any timecode breaks in the tape but I could be wrong. I do have other tapes that I've captured that have had timecode breaks and all have captured fine in FCE2 so I'm not sure what the problem is. I have turned off the "warn if dropped frames" occurs and when I do leave it on with this particular tape, it shows up and stops capturing so I believe it is dropping some frames.

April 20th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#508
Thomas Berg Petersen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 111	Running FCP3 and FCP4 on same Mac? I am currently editing a project in FCP3, and I am going to edit a new project in a few weeks and the directors wants me to edit in FCP4 (which I would love to as I have heard many great things about FCP4). I read that it is not a good idea to convert FCP3 projects (and media) to FCP4 projects, so I was wondering if I bought the FCP4 upgrade, would it be possible to run both FCP3 and FCP4 on the same Mac? Obviously not at the same time, but it would be cool if I could continue with my current project in FCP3, and switch to FCP4 for this new project? __________________ Thomas

April 20th, 2004, 04:38 PM	#509
Jeremy Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 51	recording back to xl1s after capturing and editing i cant seem to record my final movie back onto my xl. using after effects and FCP4. is there some setting im missing to be able to do this. i thought that i could just go back onto my camcorder from firewire. anyone care to clue me in on the necessary steps? thanks a million. J. __________________ Jeremy Martin Uhrwerk.nu

April 20th, 2004, 07:43 PM	#510
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	from FCP open your sequence and select File, Print to video (or similar wording) have your camera connected and in VCR mode, use your Cameras remote to record, un-pause. I don't beleive you can do this from AE, you would have to render the footage from AE to your HDD and import it into FCP and back to your cam from there. Does this make sense?