NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Kevin Burnfield · February 5th, 2004, 05:33 PM

Right. there's only so much space on the tape for audio data.

If you really need 4 channels you might want to consider an external recording device like a DAT or something and then capture that and after you sync it up to your footage you can link them so the 4 channels are locked together.

Glenn Chan · February 5th, 2004, 06:48 PM

I think you need to capture in 2 passes to get the 4 channels.

4 channels are going to be at 32khz sampling rate instead of 48khz. This is fine for dialogue but not so for music and anything with high frequencies (harmonics, overtones, etc.).

Marco Leavitt · February 7th, 2004, 12:58 AM

Thanks Boyd. This actually didn't work for me. Every time I dump the footage into a 4:3 sequence everything stretches up again. No idea what I'm doing wrong. I ended up just outputting it as a FinalCut movie and then squashing down the whole clip against a black background.

Robert Paul · February 9th, 2004, 02:23 AM

I am really intrested on upgrading to Final Cut Express 2 after hearing about the improvements in real time rendering. My question though is if it is possible on a g4. A friend has led me to believe that Final Cut Express 2 and RT Extreme is more or less for the G5 crowd. I am currentley running a G4 1.25 ghz mac with 1gb of ram.

I was just wondering if someone could clear up exactly what I would need to handle the improvements in real time rendering.

Jeff Donald · February 9th, 2004, 06:07 AM

You can find the specs for FCE on the Apple site here. Yes, RT Extreme will work with any Dual Processor Mac. However, I would recommend getting as much ram as you can afford.

Scott Moore · February 9th, 2004, 09:29 AM

Hey FCP'ers...
after a weekend shoot, I wound up with some
60Hz hum over part of my dialogue.

I employed a FANTASTIC audio cleaning
program, Bias SoundSoap ($80...buy it!)
but ithad to extract so MUCH hum that it left
my dialogue slightly stark and 'tin' sounding...

what are my FCP options to bring just a touch
more 'fullness' back to that particular actor's voice?

Mark Monciardini · February 9th, 2004, 04:07 PM

I would also use an Apple EQ in FCP to dial in the hum. Apple makes one with a very wide band, all the way down to 20hz. Or try the FCP Noise Gate to cut out some of the background hum.

That's too bad, I hate it when that happends. I hope the hum is not really long. You should be able to clean it up.

Matt Concialdi · February 11th, 2004, 11:51 AM

When putting in titles and backgrounds from Live Type to FCP 4, the colors are dull. They seem to lose the saturation. Then when I go to output, the titles blur on the final product.

Has anyone ran into this problem? In Live Type, they are how they should look, but on the time line in FCP they look bad. I haven't noticed it before, just on this last project that I did. I am using the Academic version of the software, could that be a problem?

Thanks,

Matt

Aaron Rosen · February 11th, 2004, 05:41 PM

Hi Matt.

I have run into it as well. I think I just used a different background. Some of them are very dark once out of LT.

Have you tried to full render them in FCP? Hit Option + R after a normal render (commadn + r). I noticed that some of my work looked a bit fuzz without the Option + R.

You can also try lightening up the BG in LT by choosing the layer you want and going to the Attributes Tab and usign the Hue / Sat / Lightness sliders. Kick them up a bit and the output to see what happens. At the very least, you are backt to were you were.

- Aaron

Bjørn Sørensen · February 12th, 2004, 06:24 AM

I need to get some still images from a DVD movie. How do I do that?

I can't find any functions in Apple DVD player that can grab stills from a DVD...

Any suggestions?

Ted Springer · February 12th, 2004, 08:45 AM

What version of Final Cut Pro are you using? Shouldn't matter if it is Academic. I haven't had this problem at all. Then again, I refuse to upgrade my Final Cut Pro from 4.0, but my Livetype is at 1.1.1.

Matt Concialdi · February 12th, 2004, 01:35 PM

I did the update so I am now using 4.1.1 I believe. I think a lot of my graphic issues have arised after i put panther on.

Michiel van der Zeeuw · February 13th, 2004, 10:20 AM

press apple-shift-3 and a screengrab will appear on your hard drive. Make sure your mouse isn't over the image you want to grab and that the image is shown at full size. You may also want to de-interlace the image with Photoshop.

Tim Tonner · February 13th, 2004, 10:40 AM

Greetings---
I am about to book some studio time for voiceovers I need for a piece I'm working on. What format should I record to? I presently edit in FCP 3, OSX, with G4. I do not have MP3 playback capability, 1/4 inch, etc. However, I am able to capture from CD or miniDV. Thoughts?

Thanks,
Tim

Andrew Hogan · February 13th, 2004, 06:58 PM

If I was you I would save the recorded audio onto a CDR at the studio as an AIFF 48Khtz and then when you get home copy this to your HDD and then import it into FCP.

February 9th, 2004, 02:23 AM	#184
Robert Paul New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Springdale, Arkansas, United States Posts: 6	Real Time rendering on a G4 I am really intrested on upgrading to Final Cut Express 2 after hearing about the improvements in real time rendering. My question though is if it is possible on a g4. A friend has led me to believe that Final Cut Express 2 and RT Extreme is more or less for the G5 crowd. I am currentley running a G4 1.25 ghz mac with 1gb of ram. I was just wondering if someone could clear up exactly what I would need to handle the improvements in real time rendering.

February 9th, 2004, 06:07 AM	#185
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	You can find the specs for FCE on the Apple site here. Yes, RT Extreme will work with any Dual Processor Mac. However, I would recommend getting as much ram as you can afford. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 9th, 2004, 09:29 AM	#186
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	Fcp4 ///fix My Sound!!! Hey FCP'ers... after a weekend shoot, I wound up with some 60Hz hum over part of my dialogue. I employed a FANTASTIC audio cleaning program, Bias SoundSoap ($80...buy it!) but ithad to extract so MUCH hum that it left my dialogue slightly stark and 'tin' sounding... what are my FCP options to bring just a touch more 'fullness' back to that particular actor's voice?

February 9th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#187
Mark Monciardini Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 158	I would also use an Apple EQ in FCP to dial in the hum. Apple makes one with a very wide band, all the way down to 20hz. Or try the FCP Noise Gate to cut out some of the background hum. That's too bad, I hate it when that happends. I hope the hum is not really long. You should be able to clean it up. __________________ Best Regards, Mark T. Monciardini Riverlight Studios www.riverlightstudios.com DVX100/Final Cut Pro 4/Mac G5 Dual 1.8

February 11th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#188
Matt Concialdi Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 28	Live Type titles not looking good in FCP When putting in titles and backgrounds from Live Type to FCP 4, the colors are dull. They seem to lose the saturation. Then when I go to output, the titles blur on the final product. Has anyone ran into this problem? In Live Type, they are how they should look, but on the time line in FCP they look bad. I haven't noticed it before, just on this last project that I did. I am using the Academic version of the software, could that be a problem? Thanks, Matt

February 5th, 2004, 05:33 PM	#181
Kevin Burnfield Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 363	Right. there's only so much space on the tape for audio data. If you really need 4 channels you might want to consider an external recording device like a DAT or something and then capture that and after you sync it up to your footage you can link them so the 4 channels are locked together.

February 5th, 2004, 06:48 PM	#182
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	I think you need to capture in 2 passes to get the 4 channels. 4 channels are going to be at 32khz sampling rate instead of 48khz. This is fine for dialogue but not so for music and anything with high frequencies (harmonics, overtones, etc.).

February 7th, 2004, 12:58 AM	#183
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Thanks Boyd. This actually didn't work for me. Every time I dump the footage into a 4:3 sequence everything stretches up again. No idea what I'm doing wrong. I ended up just outputting it as a FinalCut movie and then squashing down the whole clip against a black background.

February 11th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#189
Aaron Rosen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: HB, CA - USA Posts: 298	Hi Matt. I have run into it as well. I think I just used a different background. Some of them are very dark once out of LT. Have you tried to full render them in FCP? Hit Option + R after a normal render (commadn + r). I noticed that some of my work looked a bit fuzz without the Option + R. You can also try lightening up the BG in LT by choosing the layer you want and going to the Attributes Tab and usign the Hue / Sat / Lightness sliders. Kick them up a bit and the output to see what happens. At the very least, you are backt to were you were. - Aaron

February 12th, 2004, 06:24 AM	#190
Bjørn Sørensen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 143	How do I capture stills from a DVD? I need to get some still images from a DVD movie. How do I do that? I can't find any functions in Apple DVD player that can grab stills from a DVD... Any suggestions? __________________ x

February 12th, 2004, 08:45 AM	#191
Ted Springer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale CA Posts: 328	What version of Final Cut Pro are you using? Shouldn't matter if it is Academic. I haven't had this problem at all. Then again, I refuse to upgrade my Final Cut Pro from 4.0, but my Livetype is at 1.1.1.

February 12th, 2004, 01:35 PM	#192
Matt Concialdi Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 28	I did the update so I am now using 4.1.1 I believe. I think a lot of my graphic issues have arised after i put panther on.

February 13th, 2004, 10:20 AM	#193
Michiel van der Zeeuw Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 27	press apple-shift-3 and a screengrab will appear on your hard drive. Make sure your mouse isn't over the image you want to grab and that the image is shown at full size. You may also want to de-interlace the image with Photoshop.

February 13th, 2004, 10:40 AM	#194
Tim Tonner Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: stowe, vt Posts: 45	what format for voiceovers Greetings--- I am about to book some studio time for voiceovers I need for a piece I'm working on. What format should I record to? I presently edit in FCP 3, OSX, with G4. I do not have MP3 playback capability, 1/4 inch, etc. However, I am able to capture from CD or miniDV. Thoughts? Thanks, Tim

February 13th, 2004, 06:58 PM	#195
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	If I was you I would save the recorded audio onto a CDR at the studio as an AIFF 48Khtz and then when you get home copy this to your HDD and then import it into FCP.