NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Boyd Ostroff · December 1st, 2004, 09:37 AM

The HDLink from Blackmagic Design will do this, although I have never seen one myself http://www.blackmagic-design.com/site/hdlink.htm

Donal Briard · December 1st, 2004, 11:29 AM

The HDLink only has SDI in, so it will not work with the FX1.

Fred Zara · December 1st, 2004, 03:13 PM

Thanks! I'll check those out and see if they help.

Fred Zara · December 1st, 2004, 06:48 PM

OK, I've checked out all of those threads, and it seems I'm not the only one that has this problem. But it doesn't seem like anyone has an answer yet.

One thing that is weird is the footage is 24pa captured with the pulldown removal, but when I click on the clip in my bin and go to item properties it says 29.97. And it still wants me to render before I can view it in a 24fps or 23.98fps timeline.

Anyone?

Zareh Tjeknavorian · December 1st, 2004, 08:34 PM

I'm trying to figure out the best way to digitize audio from a Sony TCD-D8 to my desktop G4. I'm interested in any suggestions on how best to connect these two pieces of equipment and get the audio in the timeline.

Thanks very much in advance.

Jeff Donald · December 1st, 2004, 10:12 PM

What type of outputs does the Sony have?

Zareh Tjeknavorian · December 1st, 2004, 11:14 PM

Hey Jeff,

It has a remote digital I/0 for use w/ a special sony optical cable, and a phones/line out jack for analog connections (I know the latter can be used with a mac via the mic jack on the computer, but apparently this results in less than desirable audio.

Jeff Donald · December 2nd, 2004, 12:05 AM

It reads like you need something with S/PDIF coaxial connections. This might do the trick, USBPre from Sound Devices.

Colin Bender · December 2nd, 2004, 08:20 AM

Hi,

I am trying to hook up an external monitor in this configuration:
PowerMac 8600/300 (using fcp 1.0.1)--->firewired to Canon GL2--->RCA to TV.

Im under the impression device control needs to be enabled for this to work, but when i turn it on the i get this message:

"device control will not be available using the currently selected firewire protocol. the firewire or dv enablers are missing."

the protocol is set on apple firewire basic, but i have tried them all.

I searched for the enablers on my mac and found (in the extensions folder)
firewire enabler---version 2.7
firewire support---version 2.7
quicktime firewire dv enabler---version 2.2
quicktime firewire dv support---version 2.2

My ultimate goal is to monitor fcp on a tv monitor. if im correct that device control needs to enabled does anybody know why i get the above message.
or is there a way to hook up a monitor without having to enable device control.

im very new at all this so any help would be great.

Colin.

Jeff Patnaude · December 2nd, 2004, 08:56 AM

Hi everyone,
I'm looking at adding a larger external hard drive soon.
quick question for FCP users. Is anyone editing DVCpro or above and using any Firewire 800 cards and hard drives? How about HD editing? It Seems that the throughput might be fast enough to edit 720p HD @ 100 Mbps- any confirmation from the field?
I have a G4, 1 gig ram, FCP 4.

Thanks,

Jeff

Zareh Tjeknavorian · December 2nd, 2004, 11:11 AM

Thanks - I took a look at the Sound Devices. It seems perfect, but alas a little more than I can spend right now. I also found the following sound card, with fire wire connectivity, for just around $75. What do you think?

http://www.core-sound.com/Firewire-Audiophile.html

Chris Sebes · December 3rd, 2004, 02:02 PM

It's been a while since I've edited on my beige G3 with OS9, but I do remember having to deal with the extensions you've mentioned.

My first thought is that since you've chosen Basic Firewire, you may only be able to see the image going through the camera, and not control it.

Have you gotten the same error on all settings?

Make sure that you've updated to the latest version of Quicktime that you can install on your machine. I've known this to be a problem.

Is this the first time you've tried doing this or is the a new problem that has recently surfaced?

There are a coule of forums you might want to try that target FCP users. One that I like is PostForum.com. And they have a lot more forums than Final Cut.

These are my initial thoughts, but if something jogs my memory, I'll post.

Good luck.
Peace!
Chris

Chris Mills · December 5th, 2004, 09:44 PM

What is the best workflow with regards to codecs and maintaining image integrity when doing post work on DV footage in AfterEffects and rendering it out to be used in FCP 4.1?

I would have assumed that simply rendering my AE material out using the DV codec would be fine, but I am wondering if I am going to take an unwanted hit in quality as I recompress my DV material.

Does it make more sense to render out as lossless any interative DV post material and only render out as DV when it is ready to finally go back to FCP?

An thoughts on this?

Tim White AU · December 6th, 2004, 03:05 AM

Hi everyone,

I have a major problem with my export at the moment, and this forum is a brilliant place to find solutions.

I've recently got into the videography industry, and are still somewhat new (though proficient) at Final Cut Pro. I have some footage at the moment of a School Speech Night, which includes students walking across a stage to shake hands with the principal and recieve an award.

I have two queries with this work. Firstly, one of the cameras was being used by a friend of mine who was stuck with a dodgy tripod, that could not fluidly pan or stay still without a vibrating effect. What is the best way to minimise the camera shakes in this footage (baring in mind that it cannot be reshot)?

Secondly, when exporting footage in MPEG2 format for DVD use, the footage struggles with movement. I don't know the name for the problem, but the footage has obvious lines through movement. The effect I am talking about can be found if you tried to use a still frame from a frame rich with movement; there are lines breaking up the shot. Now I understand why this happens in a still shot, but is there a way to stop it in the actual video?

Thanks in advance folks,
Tim

Kevin Kocak · December 6th, 2004, 11:21 AM

I am directing a read along series for kids and am
trying to figure out the best way to produce the
effect I want. I am editing this in FCPHD. I am
looking for a text creation and tracking method so
that the text fades in grey and as it is read turns to
black. I have tried creating this using
illustrator/photoshop combo and have also experimented
with Livetype. The ill/photoshop method basically
entails creating a still for each word. With this
method I get a nice pop as each word appears, but the
text does not seem to be as crisp or clear as I would
like.
Using Livetype the clarity seems to be a bit better
but I do not get that same pop and trying to keyframe
each word was extremely difficult. Is there a filter
or some technique to add clarity to the Photoshop
technique, or is there some easy way that I am missing
to do this using Livetype or the text generator within
FCP. OR is there a program out there that this could
be done in that could solve all of these issues?
Surely someone out there has encountered something
like this, worked on a similar project, or just has some words of wisdom. Below is a link if you would like to see a screenshot. Thanks in advance!
http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/227d6c75/bc/KICSFLIX/3Bears.png?bf.MJtBBx49l_kh0
copyright Franklin Media Networks LLC

December 1st, 2004, 08:34 PM	#1700
Zareh Tjeknavorian Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 46	digitizing from a DAT recorder to FCP I'm trying to figure out the best way to digitize audio from a Sony TCD-D8 to my desktop G4. I'm interested in any suggestions on how best to connect these two pieces of equipment and get the audio in the timeline. Thanks very much in advance.

December 1st, 2004, 10:12 PM	#1701
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What type of outputs does the Sony have? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 2nd, 2004, 12:05 AM	#1703
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It reads like you need something with S/PDIF coaxial connections. This might do the trick, USBPre from Sound Devices. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 2nd, 2004, 08:20 AM	#1704
Colin Bender Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 2	firewire enablers missing Hi, I am trying to hook up an external monitor in this configuration: PowerMac 8600/300 (using fcp 1.0.1)--->firewired to Canon GL2--->RCA to TV. Im under the impression device control needs to be enabled for this to work, but when i turn it on the i get this message: "device control will not be available using the currently selected firewire protocol. the firewire or dv enablers are missing." the protocol is set on apple firewire basic, but i have tried them all. I searched for the enablers on my mac and found (in the extensions folder) firewire enabler---version 2.7 firewire support---version 2.7 quicktime firewire dv enabler---version 2.2 quicktime firewire dv support---version 2.2 My ultimate goal is to monitor fcp on a tv monitor. if im correct that device control needs to enabled does anybody know why i get the above message. or is there a way to hook up a monitor without having to enable device control. im very new at all this so any help would be great. Colin.

December 2nd, 2004, 08:56 AM	#1705
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	Firewire 800 Harddrives and FCP 4 Hi everyone, I'm looking at adding a larger external hard drive soon. quick question for FCP users. Is anyone editing DVCpro or above and using any Firewire 800 cards and hard drives? How about HD editing? It Seems that the throughput might be fast enough to edit 720p HD @ 100 Mbps- any confirmation from the field? I have a G4, 1 gig ram, FCP 4. Thanks, Jeff

December 1st, 2004, 09:37 AM	#1696
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	The HDLink from Blackmagic Design will do this, although I have never seen one myself http://www.blackmagic-design.com/site/hdlink.htm

December 1st, 2004, 11:29 AM	#1697
Donal Briard Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 43	The HDLink only has SDI in, so it will not work with the FX1.

December 1st, 2004, 03:13 PM	#1698
Fred Zara New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 5	Thanks! I'll check those out and see if they help.

December 1st, 2004, 06:48 PM	#1699
Fred Zara New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 5	OK, I've checked out all of those threads, and it seems I'm not the only one that has this problem. But it doesn't seem like anyone has an answer yet. One thing that is weird is the footage is 24pa captured with the pulldown removal, but when I click on the clip in my bin and go to item properties it says 29.97. And it still wants me to render before I can view it in a 24fps or 23.98fps timeline. Anyone?

December 1st, 2004, 11:14 PM	#1702
Zareh Tjeknavorian Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 46	Hey Jeff, It has a remote digital I/0 for use w/ a special sony optical cable, and a phones/line out jack for analog connections (I know the latter can be used with a mac via the mic jack on the computer, but apparently this results in less than desirable audio.

December 2nd, 2004, 11:11 AM	#1706
Zareh Tjeknavorian Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 46	Thanks - I took a look at the Sound Devices. It seems perfect, but alas a little more than I can spend right now. I also found the following sound card, with fire wire connectivity, for just around $75. What do you think? http://www.core-sound.com/Firewire-Audiophile.html

December 3rd, 2004, 02:02 PM	#1707
Chris Sebes New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 24	It's been a while since I've edited on my beige G3 with OS9, but I do remember having to deal with the extensions you've mentioned. My first thought is that since you've chosen Basic Firewire, you may only be able to see the image going through the camera, and not control it. Have you gotten the same error on all settings? Make sure that you've updated to the latest version of Quicktime that you can install on your machine. I've known this to be a problem. Is this the first time you've tried doing this or is the a new problem that has recently surfaced? There are a coule of forums you might want to try that target FCP users. One that I like is PostForum.com. And they have a lot more forums than Final Cut. These are my initial thoughts, but if something jogs my memory, I'll post. Good luck. Peace! Chris

December 5th, 2004, 09:44 PM	#1708
Chris Mills Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 77	DV->AE->FCP? What is the best workflow with regards to codecs and maintaining image integrity when doing post work on DV footage in AfterEffects and rendering it out to be used in FCP 4.1? I would have assumed that simply rendering my AE material out using the DV codec would be fine, but I am wondering if I am going to take an unwanted hit in quality as I recompress my DV material. Does it make more sense to render out as lossless any interative DV post material and only render out as DV when it is ready to finally go back to FCP? An thoughts on this? __________________ Regards, Chris http://www.lizardlounge.com

December 6th, 2004, 03:05 AM	#1709
Tim White AU New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 17	Poor movement in export Hi everyone, I have a major problem with my export at the moment, and this forum is a brilliant place to find solutions. I've recently got into the videography industry, and are still somewhat new (though proficient) at Final Cut Pro. I have some footage at the moment of a School Speech Night, which includes students walking across a stage to shake hands with the principal and recieve an award. I have two queries with this work. Firstly, one of the cameras was being used by a friend of mine who was stuck with a dodgy tripod, that could not fluidly pan or stay still without a vibrating effect. What is the best way to minimise the camera shakes in this footage (baring in mind that it cannot be reshot)? Secondly, when exporting footage in MPEG2 format for DVD use, the footage struggles with movement. I don't know the name for the problem, but the footage has obvious lines through movement. The effect I am talking about can be found if you tried to use a still frame from a frame rich with movement; there are lines breaking up the shot. Now I understand why this happens in a still shot, but is there a way to stop it in the actual video? Thanks in advance folks, Tim

December 6th, 2004, 11:21 AM	#1710
Kevin Kocak Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 149	Text in FCP I am directing a read along series for kids and am trying to figure out the best way to produce the effect I want. I am editing this in FCPHD. I am looking for a text creation and tracking method so that the text fades in grey and as it is read turns to black. I have tried creating this using illustrator/photoshop combo and have also experimented with Livetype. The ill/photoshop method basically entails creating a still for each word. With this method I get a nice pop as each word appears, but the text does not seem to be as crisp or clear as I would like. Using Livetype the clarity seems to be a bit better but I do not get that same pop and trying to keyframe each word was extremely difficult. Is there a filter or some technique to add clarity to the Photoshop technique, or is there some easy way that I am missing to do this using Livetype or the text generator within FCP. OR is there a program out there that this could be done in that could solve all of these issues? Surely someone out there has encountered something like this, worked on a similar project, or just has some words of wisdom. Below is a link if you would like to see a screenshot. Thanks in advance! http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/227d6c75/bc/KICSFLIX/3Bears.png?bf.MJtBBx49l_kh0 copyright Franklin Media Networks LLC