NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Pat Chaney · November 19th, 2004, 07:11 AM

Can't you just drag the clip(s) into a new timeline and then copy/paste the audio tracks to your project?

Rob Moreno · November 19th, 2004, 09:34 AM

Hi Pat,

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. You mean drag the clips from the browser into a new timeline? This would work if the in and out points were still set for each clip, but they no longer are. Most of the clips are quite long, and I used several parts of each one, which means I set the in and out points many times.

Thomas Berg Petersen · November 19th, 2004, 09:44 AM

Solved it. Since FCP4.5HD accepted the video, I figured if I could somehow just extract the sound, I would then be able to sync it up in FCP.

Luckily, cleaner6 worked to extract the sound from the .mpg file into an .aiff sound file which I then synched up with the video. Worked well. Printed the whole thing to tape in DVCAM and handed it over to my client this morning. Done. Thanks Jeff!

Shane Ross · November 19th, 2004, 12:11 PM

That sounds right. You should be good to go.

8-Bit uncompressed.

Heath McKnight · November 19th, 2004, 07:18 PM

I don't have scsi drives, so I'm having to do it with my camera and do a conversion.

heath

Boyd Ostroff · November 19th, 2004, 10:08 PM

I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP is "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there.

On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline.

Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

Boyd Ostroff · November 19th, 2004, 10:11 PM

I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP in "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there.

On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline.

Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

Rob Moreno · November 20th, 2004, 08:57 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought there may be a quicker way (like a "restore audio" function), but this seems like it will work with a bit of effort.

November 21st, 2004, 10:53 AM

I am having trouble rendering my after effects compositions (mostly ramped slow mo's and some color corrections) to use in FCP. everytime i choose "best settings and full quality" from the render queue i end up with a lot of noise and jumps in the video clip. also, these are only like 4 second clips so its not like i am taxing my powerbook and making it work super hard.
any ideas?

Michael Westphal · November 21st, 2004, 07:06 PM

Rob,
Click on the video clip in the timeline. Press "f". The original clip with in/out points set will show in the viewer. From there you can restore the audio, a number of ways -- depends on the target audio and video tracks, and if something is already there, etc. But, You can now see the original audio in the viewer. Not quite as nice as a "Restore" audio command...

Rob Moreno · November 21st, 2004, 07:21 PM

Michael, thanks for your suggestion!

This does exactly what I need, with minimum effort.

Thanks!

Rob Lohman · November 22nd, 2004, 04:08 AM

It shouldn't be that much of a difference. Ofcourse if you can it is
always best to match the tutorial/book/video/etc. to your exact
version to make sure it follows closely the program you have.

Are you going to get this second-hand or buy this new? If new
then just ask the company how well it works with 6.5? It is at
least better to work with a 6.0 training for a 6.5 version since
the basics should be the same, but I don't know that for sure
(not used AE in a long time).

I hope someone who has experience with both versions can give
you a better insight into what is different!

Dmitry Yun · November 22nd, 2004, 07:54 AM

Thanks Rob. I'm going to get it new but I don't think there are any 6.5 training videos thus my question. I'll definitely ask if they are close enough for me to use one for another :)

Dmitry

November 22nd, 2004, 02:53 PM

nobody?

Rob Lohman · November 23rd, 2004, 06:13 AM

I don't think there are many Mac After Effects users, so it might
not be that anyone knows. Did you try asking the question on
the Adobe forums?

November 19th, 2004, 09:34 AM	#1637
Rob Moreno Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 102	Hi Pat, I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. You mean drag the clips from the browser into a new timeline? This would work if the in and out points were still set for each clip, but they no longer are. Most of the clips are quite long, and I used several parts of each one, which means I set the in and out points many times. __________________ Media Kobo Japan

November 19th, 2004, 09:44 AM	#1638
Thomas Berg Petersen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 111	Solved it. Since FCP4.5HD accepted the video, I figured if I could somehow just extract the sound, I would then be able to sync it up in FCP. Luckily, cleaner6 worked to extract the sound from the .mpg file into an .aiff sound file which I then synched up with the video. Worked well. Printed the whole thing to tape in DVCAM and handed it over to my client this morning. Done. Thanks Jeff! __________________ Thomas

November 19th, 2004, 07:18 PM	#1640
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I don't have scsi drives, so I'm having to do it with my camera and do a conversion. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

November 20th, 2004, 08:57 AM	#1643
Rob Moreno Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 102	Thanks for the suggestion. I thought there may be a quicker way (like a "restore audio" function), but this seems like it will work with a bit of effort. __________________ Media Kobo Japan

November 21st, 2004, 10:53 AM	#1644
Guest Posts: n/a	after effects render problem I am having trouble rendering my after effects compositions (mostly ramped slow mo's and some color corrections) to use in FCP. everytime i choose "best settings and full quality" from the render queue i end up with a lot of noise and jumps in the video clip. also, these are only like 4 second clips so its not like i am taxing my powerbook and making it work super hard. any ideas?

November 19th, 2004, 07:11 AM	#1636
Pat Chaney Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 107	Can't you just drag the clip(s) into a new timeline and then copy/paste the audio tracks to your project?

November 19th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#1639
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	That sounds right. You should be good to go. 8-Bit uncompressed.

November 19th, 2004, 10:08 PM	#1641
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP is "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there. On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline. Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

November 19th, 2004, 10:11 PM	#1642
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP in "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there. On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline. Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

November 21st, 2004, 07:06 PM	#1645
Michael Westphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 166	Rob, Click on the video clip in the timeline. Press "f". The original clip with in/out points set will show in the viewer. From there you can restore the audio, a number of ways -- depends on the target audio and video tracks, and if something is already there, etc. But, You can now see the original audio in the viewer. Not quite as nice as a "Restore" audio command... __________________ Michael A Westphal

November 21st, 2004, 07:21 PM	#1646
Rob Moreno Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 102	Michael, thanks for your suggestion! This does exactly what I need, with minimum effort. Thanks! __________________ Media Kobo Japan

November 22nd, 2004, 04:08 AM	#1647
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It shouldn't be that much of a difference. Ofcourse if you can it is always best to match the tutorial/book/video/etc. to your exact version to make sure it follows closely the program you have. Are you going to get this second-hand or buy this new? If new then just ask the company how well it works with 6.5? It is at least better to work with a 6.0 training for a 6.5 version since the basics should be the same, but I don't know that for sure (not used AE in a long time). I hope someone who has experience with both versions can give you a better insight into what is different! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 22nd, 2004, 07:54 AM	#1648
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Thanks Rob. I'm going to get it new but I don't think there are any 6.5 training videos thus my question. I'll definitely ask if they are close enough for me to use one for another :) Dmitry

November 22nd, 2004, 02:53 PM	#1649
Guest Posts: n/a	nobody?

November 23rd, 2004, 06:13 AM	#1650
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't think there are many Mac After Effects users, so it might not be that anyone knows. Did you try asking the question on the Adobe forums? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors